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Handwashing black cars or dark coloured cars. Feedback?

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Handwashing black cars or dark coloured cars. Feedback?

I want to do something prohibitively stupid which is to buy a brand new darker colour car, almost black.

I also intend to always use the two bucket method and wash cars by hand and to do whatever I can to minimize swirls. Am I a pro detailer? No, but do I get the idea of using microfiber towels, and using foam cannons and such? Yes.

I presume I'm not the first person on here to have owned a darker coloured car and washed the car exclusively by hand. My question is, for those of you with direct knowledge of this scenario, can a car remain swirl free, or is it a lost cause?
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angryaudifanatic wrote:
Dec 17th, 2018 5:27 pm
I want to do something prohibitively stupid which is to buy a brand new darker colour car, almost black.

I also intend to always use the two bucket method and wash cars by hand and to do whatever I can to minimize swirls. Am I a pro detailer? No, but do I get the idea of using microfiber towels, and using foam cannons and such? Yes.

I presume I'm not the first person on here to have owned a darker coloured car and washed the car exclusively by hand. My question is, for those of you with direct knowledge of this scenario, can a car remain swirl free, or is it a lost cause?
If it's a DD.
It'll eventually be a lost cause. If the swirls don't get you the stone chips will.
I have a dark metallic bronze. I got about 5 years before stone chips started to destroy my paint.
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Black car is hardest to take care of for paint swirl wise IMO. PPF the whole black car to avoid the swirls/stone chips
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McLaren__F1 wrote:
Dec 17th, 2018 7:09 pm
Black car is hardest to take care of for paint swirl wise IMO. PPF the whole black car to avoid the swirls/stone chips
And how do you protect the pff?
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peteryorkuca wrote:
Dec 17th, 2018 7:37 pm
And how do you protect the pff?
Put more ppf on?

The idea is basically pulling it off and reapply in 3-4 years to protect original paint. That said, my 3M guy did give me some hydrophobic solution to apply to 3M PPF on the hood. Seems pretty good but I have no idea what it is.

But seriously, unless I have some collectible or potential collectible over $500K, I don't think their will be a car worth full body PPF.

And to OP, unless you park your car for winter, don't bother. It will never be new again regardless what type of wash you do.
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No such thing as swirl free, especially if it’s a daily.

However sticking to a two bucket method is not a lost cause, you will have substantially less swirls compared to other black cars that are run through the gas station washes.
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You're on the right track. Good washing practices like not scrubbing, the 2 bucket method, good wash mitts, avoiding cross-contamination, good drying towels, a drying aid etc. will go a long way. Worst case, it needs a light polishing once a year. Gloss black cars are the absolute most difficult. Metallic black and the like are a bit more forgiving.
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Don't forget about the drying. Get microfiber cloths and just dab.
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peteryorkuca wrote:
Dec 17th, 2018 7:37 pm
And how do you protect the pff?
You can ceramic coat it.

I just bought a black car as well. First thing I did was PPF, then ceramic coat the entire car including wheels and brake calipers. OMG, it's so much easier to clean as it's hydrophobic and resistant to scratches. You still have to do the proper washing like two bucket and microfiber cloths, but you don't have to spend as much time washing it as before. I know PPF and ceramic coat does cost a bit, but good PPF has 7-10 year warranties now and ceramic coat last 4-5 years and you can reapply.
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Use a leaf blower for drying.
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Paint correction and ceramic coating from day one.
I also don't bother wiping after washing anymore and just let it air dry.
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Ceramic Coating does not prevent scratches. It will Help with very minor light scratches and those light scratches/swirl marks will hopefully only be in the ceramic coating so that it can be easily polished off and then re-apply ceramic coating.

it is easier to clean and does make the car a bit more shiny/glossy but the most of the shine/gloss comes from the paint correction step before applying the ceramic coating which is why it costs so much.
bomber17 wrote:
Dec 17th, 2018 9:04 pm
You can ceramic coat it.

I just bought a black car as well. First thing I did was PPF, then ceramic coat the entire car including wheels and brake calipers. OMG, it's so much easier to clean as it's hydrophobic and resistant to scratches. You still have to do the proper washing like two bucket and microfiber cloths, but you don't have to spend as much time washing it as before. I know PPF and ceramic coat does cost a bit, but good PPF has 7-10 year warranties now and ceramic coat last 4-5 years and you can reapply.
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Best thing you can do is what I did when I got my new car.

Brought it home and did any paint correction to it that was needed (not much was needed because I told dealer not to touch it) then I ceramic coated the car. 2-3 days later I took it in to get PPF on the full front of the car and the rear loading sill for the trunk.

After that you just maintain it, so 2 bucket was with quality products such as carpro/geyon/3d products etc. Always using microfiber products & Not using the same brush/wash mitt on the wheels & the paint. You will also need to maintain the ceramic coating if you get it with toppers. If you dont want to spend the money on Ceramic Coating then I can recommend a good quality Wax that will last close to a year and you can apply that twice a year or maybe 3 times if you wish to help protect it.

But you will likely need to do a light polish yearly because if its DD like my car you will always get minor swirl marks, especially from the winter and using the snow rush and so on.
angryaudifanatic wrote:
Dec 17th, 2018 5:27 pm
I want to do something prohibitively stupid which is to buy a brand new darker colour car, almost black.

I also intend to always use the two bucket method and wash cars by hand and to do whatever I can to minimize swirls. Am I a pro detailer? No, but do I get the idea of using microfiber towels, and using foam cannons and such? Yes.

I presume I'm not the first person on here to have owned a darker coloured car and washed the car exclusively by hand. My question is, for those of you with direct knowledge of this scenario, can a car remain swirl free, or is it a lost cause?
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PPF the full front would of saved you if not seriously reduced the rock chips.
tebore wrote:
Dec 17th, 2018 6:17 pm
If it's a DD.
It'll eventually be a lost cause. If the swirls don't get you the stone chips will.
I have a dark metallic bronze. I got about 5 years before stone chips started to destroy my paint.
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You dont really need to protect the ppf? The quality brands dont yellow over time. However what I was told you basically treat it like paint. I have put Wax/sealants/Ceramic Coating over it without issues.
peteryorkuca wrote:
Dec 17th, 2018 7:37 pm
And how do you protect the pff?
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