*Heroes* Thread - **Officially C.A.N.C.E.L.E.D**

[bmaz]

I'm not sure why having been exposed to Hiro's abilities make Nathan immune to their effects. Just because he has the ability to control time doesn't mean he lives outside the common timeline. With the exception of Claire and Adam's healing, every hero seems to need to focus, however briefly (and with some, it's quite some time....like Hiro) and concentrate to use their powers. As we've seen, they can all be caught off guard, so I don't see why Peter would get an automatic pass when Hiro has frozen time...

Firstly it's Peter the fact that you don't even know his name after 1.5 seasons might also explain your confusion.
Before Peter knew he had any powers ( back in season 1 ), he was shown to be 'immune' to Hiro's time freezing powers in the subway.
This is the last time I will speak on this 'issue', if neither of you can't wrap your head around that, then that's your issues.

[jeffyjaixx]

Before Peter knew he had any powers ( back in season 1 ), he was shown to be 'immune' to Hiro's time freezing powers in the subway.
This is the last time I will speak on this 'issue', if neither of you can't wrap your head around that, then that's your issues.

But my question is has it ever been explained why he was immune or do we just have to accept it just because?

[deep]

Firstly it's Peter the fact that you don't even know his name after 1.5 seasons might also explain your confusion.
Before Peter knew he had any powers ( back in season 1 ), he was shown to be 'immune' to Hiro's time freezing powers in the subway.
This is the last time I will speak on this 'issue', if neither of you can't wrap your head around that, then that's your issues.

The Nathan gaffe is pretty bad, I'll admit.

However, just because it has happened before, doesn't mean it makes sense. Why not arbitrarily make a bunch of heroes immune to time based effects, then? Or immune to any of the other powers?

I think it's great that this is the last time you'll speak on this "issue", as you haven't added anything useful, nor convinced me that this aspect of the show makes sense.

[bmaz]

But my question is has it ever been explained why he was immune or do we just have to accept it just because?

It's obviously because of his 'ability mimicking' powers, beyond that there were no explanation.
I just feel that of all the the things to be nit-picking about this is a non-issue.

[sfu_lifer]

But my question is has it ever been explained why he was immune or do we just have to accept it just because?

What's to accept? Peter can gain abilities. He obviously absorbed/integrated Hiro's power the first time around without him consciously having to do anything to manifest them (they've maintained that fact from the beginning that no conscious effort has to be done on his part).

Still, very gay ending and disappointing season. The Sylar thing is getting old.

[sfu_lifer]

Peter has the ability to freeze time as well, hence why he could move freely when Hiro came to kill Adam. It just doesn't make sense to me how he could take down Hiro at his own game but can't go back 10 seconds in the past to save his brother. Meh... nothing to be bothered about though.

Peter's the dimmest bulb in the pack, by far. That's what keeps him from getting a god-complex. Only Sylar seems to be able to accept the powers and see the possibilities.

[gman]

Why can't Peter just go back in time and prevent the assassination... jeez.

Even Hiro cannot control time fully. There is something that time travel just cannot fix even if you have the ability. Hiro tried N times to save Charlie and failed. Charlie had to die. Hiro also lost his power after trying too hard.

That's so... ugh. He can stop time like Hiro and even beats Hiro at his own thing but can't go back in time. I mean... c'mon.

But I guess if he did that, there would be no drama unfolding.

Peter cannot stop time. At least, so far, he has not mastered it. He has time travel ability and he cannot control that. When Hiro froze time, he was not exactly immune. He was stay in the same time bubble as Hiro. Hiro still could move faster than Peter in that bubble.

It's obviously HRG.

I don't think it is HRG. The time line is not right. I think it can be Haitian. Parkman could have sense HRG. HRG is not a super being. He could not just shoot and walk away. Haitian can block Parkman's ability. HRG could do that job if there is a 'hero' helping him. Since they go with pair, that could happen. But, we only saw one person walked away.

Peter has the ability to freeze time as well, hence why he could move freely when Hiro came to kill Adam. It just doesn't make sense to me how he could take down Hiro at his own game but can't go back 10 seconds in the past to save his brother. Meh... nothing to be bothered about though.

But my question is has it ever been explained why he was immune or do we just have to accept it just because?

Peter just stays in Hiro's time bubble passively. That is he did not intentionally bring up that ability.

[sfu_lifer]

There's no way that was Haitian unless he was doing the Mission Impossible mask thing. The dude was white (freeze frame it if you doubt me).

[gman]

There's no way that was Haitian unless he was doing the Mission Impossible mask thing. The dude was white (freeze frame it if you doubt me).

Okay, in that case, I just think it was another 'hero' type. HRG might be good but he could not be that good. Unless, he is also doing a Mission Impossible to assassin Nathan among cops and heroes.

Wait! 2nd thought, may be HRG is now an hero.

[jeffyjaixx]

Oh okay, so basically when Hiro stopped time, Peter unconsciously triggered this ability as well. But if Hiro can still move faster than Peter, how come he still lost? Can't Hiro always dodge Peter's attacks then? Anyways, like bmaz said, this is getting too nitpicky. Great discussion though.

[Rosico]

Sigh, I miss the Haitian ...

For a second, I thought Peter was going to inhale the dust and start dying - the camera had an awkward pause ...

Funny thing, you'd think they'd get each other's cell phone or something (er, my bro just died, can you help me out? Um, I broke my nose, can you give me some blood? Er, I like this chick, can you read her mind to see what she thinks).

[jeffyjaixx]

It's obviously because of his 'ability mimicking' powers, beyond that there were no explanation.
I just feel that of all the the things to be nit-picking about this is a non-issue.

That's what I meant. He absorbed Hiro's power and therefore in a way is "immune" to Hiro's power since he can do the same whether unconsciously or consciously.

[gman]

Oh okay, so basically when Hiro stopped time, Peter unconsciously triggered this ability as well. But if Hiro can still move faster than Peter, how come he still lost? Can't Hiro always dodge Peter's attacks then? Anyways, like bmaz said, this is getting too nitpicky. Great discussion though.

Hiro did always dodge Peter's attack if he saw it coming. Hiro is faster. Hence, he vanished and moved to another position while Peter was looking for him. In this esp, the first time Peter knocked out Hiro by shocking him. Hiro did not see that coming. The 2nd time, Hiro was trying to stop Kensei without watching Peter. I think if Hiro wanted to hurt Peter (slash his throat), he could but that won't do anything to Peter who can heal anyway.

[gman]

Sigh, I miss the Haitian ...

For a second, I thought Peter was going to inhale the dust and start dying - the camera had an awkward pause ...

I thought the virus ate into Peter's skin and took over Peter like the other Peter (Peter Parker).

[xpoint9]

just throwing it out there. not sure how it would fit in. but i think the figure appears to be like peter. Maybe its peter from the future? not sure why he would kill nathan. and that also wouldn't explain his mom's conversation on the phone.

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