What do you like about your unlicensed daycare and are there any negatives?
I'm contemplating sending my child to one or perhaps, be a stay-at-home mom and opening one...
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Thanks so much for your insight/feedback. I'm still leaning on opening one but will be doing it with my sister as I plan on going back full time while looking for a part time position at work. I'm glad you have a somewhat positive experience and will do it again. I agree, opening one, you wouldn't be doing it for the money but to be able to stay home, for sure!Tinka844 wrote: ↑Jun 2nd, 2017 12:21 pmI used a home based daycare for my first daughter and will again (I have a 2 month old). There are pros and cons. Pros would be that it is cheaper than a center, usually have longer hours and/or can accommodate 'one-offs' when you will be late or need an earlier drop off and you can usually find someone in your neighborhood or on route to work so could be easier to get to than a center.
Some cons are:
- you don't know these people, their ad and your interview just isn't enough to really know, sure you can check references, but they'll only give you ones from clients that were happy with them. I had one lady that just plopped the kids in front of the TV all day long, said the kids had separate sleeping areas only to find out (when my daughter was old enough to have conversations) that all the kids were just napping on the dining room floor. Also, the same provider friended me on facebook and I could see that she was just playing games all day when she was supposed to be taking care of kids! I also tracked her on kijiji (see all posters ads) and she was selling diapers! So she was stealing the diapers parents provided and selling them!! You really have to go with your gut and the minute something seems fishy, find something else.
-if the provider is sick or has a family emergency, you're out of luck. Unlike a center, there is only one person working so if they can't work on a specific date or dates (lengthy illness or death in the family) you have to miss work or find alternate arrangements. Some of them even have in the contract that they have X amount of paid personal days, so you still have to pay (also have to pay stat holidays and days your child misses for whatever reason).
-once you leave their care, you could get stiffed on the receipt for taxes. This just happened to me, I found a lovely provider that my daughter loved and I wanted to use her for again for baby #2 but she wouldn't give me a receipt, she said I was 'very part time' so no receipt was issued. Luckily, we paid by cheque and CRA said I could claim it as I have backup proof if questioned. ALWAYS pay in a manner than you can use as proof if this should happen.
-home providers can only have '2 under 2' so it makes it difficult to find a space for a child under 2
Rates would depend on your area and how saturated it is. If you lie in an area that has a lot of home daycares, you're likely to pay less. Some offer teacher schedules, so you pay a higher daily rate, but do not hae to pay for summer, march break, christmas, pd days, etc because the daycare would be closed those days. I live in London and it looks like the going rate is 40-43/day...where a center for an infant is $55ish per day.
I too have thought about just opening my own, there are very few in my neighbourhood. I don't think it's easy work though, not only being with kids all day but also dealing with some of the parents could be quite difficult. You're also pretty much capped at what you can make ($XX per day x 5 kids) and there would be times when you don't have the full five kids and are looking for more clients. I'm sure there are huge tax write offs though. Another thing is losing your 'place' in the work field. If you decide to stay home and do this, once your kids are older, do you/will you still want to do this? If not, you've just 'lost' X amount of years in the workforce and may have to start all over again.
With all the 'cons' I still will place my daughter in a home daycare when my mat-leave is up. You CAN find good providers, they are out there. Look for someone that has a website or private facebook page for parents (some will have open facebook pages but block out the kids faces) so you can see what kind of activities they do, some providers will take them to parks, libraries, fire stations etc. Also ask for a 'trial' period in which time you can pull out if the daycare doesn't fit with you and your child and vice versa.
I hope this helps with your decision! I'm a long time reader of the forums and have never commented, but this one I had to. It's never easy leaving your kid(s) with anyone.
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This is not a good analogy. Very young kids can adapt a bit easier in a home daycare but generally you get what you pay for. Professional ECEs make a big difference to safety but also other outcomes.
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Definitely agree. We send ours to a licensed one though through wee-watch. They go follow a curriculum. So basically like a pre-school. I'm not sure if its standard but my daycare lady does it. Now, we hadn't planning on one. But it happened by chance and through natural observation through my sister in law who observed and got to know her at a library circle time (would bring the kids there).
Jun 10th, 2017 2:35 pm
If it's not too personal - how does a live out nanny work?stack1 wrote: ↑Jun 6th, 2017 9:54 pmI never switched to home care because I ended up getting a live out nanny (as I had more kids), and I far prefer that over the other options. She was able to plan interesting outings (museums, playgroups, library etc) & be more flexible in schedule. The kids & I didn't have to rush out the door, and I didn't have to worry about (the kids) sick days. She was wonderful and we still keep in touch though she no longer works for us. A nanny is more like having a SAHP, though I think she was far more patient than I would be, LOL! Of course, a nanny is expensive and I kept her even after it didn't make financial sense because she was that good!
Jun 11th, 2017 7:52 pm
A live out nanny (or live in) is your employee. You pay per hour plus all the normal govt contributions. They are allowed to work a certain number of hours, beyond that is OT. Most live out nannies make between $15-20/hr. I'm sure it varies by region, I'm not in the GTA. For my city, that figure is probably the norm. I paid for stat holidays and 2 weeks paid vacation.
Jun 11th, 2017 9:57 pm