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My Kenmore unit has been chugging away flawlessly for 4 yrs.
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Avatar wrote:
Feb 26th, 2009 11:20 pm
I'll have a Culligan guy come in next week to check our water and decide which system we need. Seems like Kinetico is a good system that saves salt/water with a premium price. Culligan has the Consumers Digest Best Buy. I checked the GE UltraMax and the price is ridiculous. Just can't justify any unit over $3000 no matter what.

Did you check out Home Comfort? They install Hauge Water Conditioner which are much cheaper than Kinetico/Culligan/Eco Water:

http://www.homecomfortcentre.com/index.html
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We have really hard well water. My husband installed a Kenmore softener that cost about $900 a couple of years ago. He also installed a Rainfresh UV system and sediment filter at the same time. Now our glasses are clean and the water is not contaminated!
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Avatar wrote:
Feb 26th, 2009 11:20 pm
Thx for everyone of you for the input especially bobby for the link.

I'll have a Culligan guy come in next week to check our water and decide which system we need. Seems like Kinetico is a good system that saves salt/water with a premium price. Culligan has the Consumers Digest Best Buy. I checked the GE UltraMax and the price is ridiculous. Just can't justify any unit over $3000 no matter what.
Culligan quoted me $2300 with one year salt supply but then if you are going with one tank system you could buy it from Sears which is way cheaper than Culligan

kinetico or fleck 9100 which is based on twin tank uses less salt and water because it cleans with soft water unlike other system which are based on one tank as they clean with hard water.

Another thing which I like is that the Brine tank is seprate so anytime If it needs cleaning it could be easly cleaned I am not sure If its that easy to clean the one tank systems.

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i read all the discustion and members experience of product they r using in this forum excellent and knowledge full,
Can any member write down the final conclusion/recmendations about this discustion to make decesion easy for people like me they cant decide .
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The people from Culligan sold me the gold series package, (was not my intention, to buy Culligan) water conditioner, (resin) water purification (charcoal ) and the AC30M for the total of $5400,00, original owner, life time warranty, supply of Salt and AC30 Filters for one year. Two or three months later another agent try to sell me and a to member of my family a more modern system (The Gold series, modern Drinking water system) for $3600,00. After this horrible price, I call the main office, they trying to sell me warranty for the system saying are no lifetime on the systems, I decide to look in to the small letters. Oh boy!!!! I am screw up. I call them a lot of times. No return calls. Beware of this people. I do not recommend this brand to anyone.
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Think its time to replace our 20 year old softener. Talked to Culligan and they have a "sale" on for $2300.

Home Depot and Sears seem to have decent models from $600 to $1000.

Which is best? What should I look for? We are in Guelph (very hard water).
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scoop wrote:
Apr 30th, 2009 10:16 pm
Think its time to replace our 20 year old softener. Talked to Culligan and they have a "sale" on for $2300.

Home Depot and Sears seem to have decent models from $600 to $1000.

Which is best? What should I look for? We are in Guelph (very hard water).
I'm in Kitchener and the water here is very hard, I just installed a Kenmore last week for $720. It works great, I have no more hard water stains and cloths feel better.

http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B001THY7 ... =398142011

there's one on sale online at Sears now for $689 minus the $35 off coupon posted in Hot Deals

http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B001THZ7 ... =398142011
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Apr 30th, 2009 10:35 pm
I'm in Kitchener and the water here is very hard, I just installed a Kenmore last week for $720. It works great, I have no more hard water stains and cloths feel better.

http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B001THY7 ... =398142011

there's one on sale online at Sears now for $689 minus the $35 off coupon posted in Hot Deals

http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B001THZ7 ... =398142011
Hi Drthorne,

I am interested in this water softener from Sears, where can I find $35 coupon? The 2nd link is the one I like,

Thanks.

PS. I found the $35 online coupon. Thanks.
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Drthorne wrote:
Apr 30th, 2009 10:35 pm
I'm in Kitchener and the water here is very hard, I just installed a Kenmore last week for $720. It works great, I have no more hard water stains and cloths feel better.

http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B001THY7 ... =398142011

there's one on sale online at Sears now for $689 minus the $35 off coupon posted in Hot Deals

http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B001THZ7 ... =398142011
thanks for the review.
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scoop wrote:
Apr 30th, 2009 10:16 pm
Think its time to replace our 20 year old softener. Talked to Culligan and they have a "sale" on for $2300.

Home Depot and Sears seem to have decent models from $600 to $1000.

Which is best? What should I look for? We are in Guelph (very hard water).
Parents place has a ~10 years old GE unit. Works great.

When picking a water softener, you need to know how hard your water is. I believe Guelph is ~22 GPG hardness. After that, you need to calculate the capacity of your water softener.

Ideally you want a softener sized to self-clean about every 4 - 7 days.

Here's a calculator for sizing:

http://www.qualitywatertreatment.com/wa ... sizing.htm

So according to the calculator, for a family of 4, you'll need a 48,000 Grain Capacity softener.

Buying one too small will backwash too often and use too much salt + water. Too large, it'll use too much salt, and backwash not often enough.
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May 1st, 2009 10:08 am
Parents place has a ~10 years old GE unit. Works great.

When picking a water softener, you need to know how hard your water is. I believe Guelph is ~22 GPG hardness. After that, you need to calculate the capacity of your water softener.

Ideally you want a softener sized to self-clean about every 4 - 7 days.

Here's a calculator for sizing:

http://www.qualitywatertreatment.com/wa ... sizing.htm

So according to the calculator, for a family of 4, you'll need a 48,000 Grain Capacity softener.

Buying one too small will backwash too often and use too much salt + water. Too large, it'll use too much salt, and backwash not often enough.
Good info - thanks. The home depot GE one's are 30,000 and 40,000 so I guess not for me.
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I had an Ecowater unit installed in my new house in August. Although more expensive than Kenmore brand, my opinion is that it works better, is more efficient and has more features. A huge difference in the taste, feel and smell of the water.

It regenerates only when it needs to, and from the bottom up (less salt used, less water used). It removes chemicals from the water far more efficiently than the Kenmore I had. Comes with a monitor that tracks water usage, remaining salt capacity, etc.

I had 2 different Kenmore softeners in my old house years ago, and while both worked, I wouldn't rave about the water quality (still wouldn't drink from the tap and far too much hardness left behind).

Forgot to add, total cost was $2K with installation.
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scoop wrote:
May 1st, 2009 1:39 pm
Good info - thanks. The home depot GE one's are 30,000 and 40,000 so I guess not for me.
The 40,000 version is OK, you'll regenerate every 6 days or so (instead of the ideal 7 days).
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