honda civic si pricing $26K

[Merkin]

LSD= Limited Slip Differential..... Kinda like posi

[divx]

to prevent slipping? salting the road prevents that already.

[Merkin]

Hmmm...

Here is a good read: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm

[wong8egg]

26K is a good price point in my opinoin.

Compare to the first SiR model, many features came standard now. Such as the racing seats, mp3 player, moonroof, spoiler and 17" rims. Not bad for a civic..

[divx]

26K is a good price point in my opinoin.

Compare to the first SiR model, many features came standard now. Such as the racing seats, mp3 player, moonroof, spoiler and 17" rims. Not bad for a civic..

What's SiR mean? What is a moonroof? Same as sunroof? How does a rim being 17" a feature?

[manixc]

The US gets them for just under $20000. With conversion, we Canada are playing almost $3k more. And it's made in Canada!

[daftfunk]

Discontinued SRT-4 would rape the Civic. Too bad they don't make it anymore.

??? why are you comparing a turbo charged car with a NA?

Si is made in Ohio. 4 door is made in Alliston, ON.

[PrinceMS]

n00b question, wtf is drive by wire?

and wtf is lsd?

Drive by wire basically means that when you turn the steering a computer turns the wheel accordingly (its not connected physically with steering ... in a way). All new BMW have it now (first to put in production i think?)I haven't tried it but don't like the idea ... computers do mess up u know.

for the link: LSD is

the only time the clutches step in is when something happens to make one wheel spin faster than the other, as in a turn. The clutches fight this behavior, wanting both wheels to go the same speed. If one wheel wants to spin faster than the other, it must first overpower the clutch

[airodus]

??? why are you comparing a turbo charged car with a NA?

Si is made in Ohio. 4 door is made in Alliston, ON.

The comparison I'm making is between "performance" oriented econoboxes at a similar pricepoint.

The Civic Si, is a better balanced (better reliability, gas mileage, etc) car.

The SRT-4 is a better pure performing car.

That is all. Just because it is a turbo, doesn't invalidate the comparison. For people wanting cheap speed, it's all about performance vs price. The SRT-4 wins hands down. Unfortunately there isn't much of a market for a one trick pony like the SRT-4 (even tho I see quite a few on the road, unlike last gens Civic SiR), and that is why it is discontinued this year.

0-60mph (caranddriver.com)
SRT-4 - 5.3 secs
Civic Si - 7.3 secs

[airodus]

And those who think it's a cheaper RSX-S. Although it has LSD which the RSX-S lacks and similar HP numbers. The real world performance of the RSX-S is much faster.

0-60mph (caranddriver.com)
RSX-S - 6.4 secs

However, compared to the similarly priced base model RSX, the Civic Si is much better.

[Kenneth]

Drive by wire basically means that when you turn the steering a computer turns the wheel accordingly (its not connected physically with steering ... in a way). All new BMW have it now (first to put in production i think?)I haven't tried it but don't like the idea ... computers do mess up u know.

Your confusing yourself with all the odd terminology. When a auto company refers to something via "by-wire" there refering to technology where computer sensors replace/tandem with old cable or hydraulic systems.

The Civic doesn't have "steering by wire" (BMW/Mercedes use trademarked); the Civic has "drive by-wire/throttle by wire" which means the throttle/gas input uses digital input rather than the normal cable system.

[sg1138]

for 26K i'd rather get a bmw 3 series but hey that's just me.

[loho33]

for 26K i'd rather get a bmw 3 series but hey that's just me.

The only BMW's I see for 26k are the ones that have no warranty...

[oldsnail]

What's SiR mean? What is a moonroof? Same as sunroof? How does a rim being 17" a feature?

www.google.com

[sg1138]

The only BMW's I see for 26k are the ones that have no warranty...

not true. you can buy a 1-2 year old bmw 320 for about 26K.