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Hoob's subfloor, hardwood, and stairs project. COMPLETED!

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hoob wrote:
Dec 1st, 2017 5:47 pm
Two questions for anyone reading:

* Any good Toronto area suppliers for baseboard? Central Fairbanks doesn't have the exact pattern I need and not anything really close, so hope there's some other places I can look (HD/Lowe's/etc don't have 7 3/4" anything)
* Where's a good place to get iron pipe fittings/pipe for architectural work in Toronto? I want to add a little railing thing at the top right of the stairs once everything is done
You can try Trim Depot in vaughan or Rex lumber in Mississauga for the baseboard.
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hoob wrote:
Dec 1st, 2017 5:47 pm
Two questions for anyone reading:

* Any good Toronto area suppliers for baseboard? Central Fairbanks doesn't have the exact pattern I need and not anything really close, so hope there's some other places I can look (HD/Lowe's/etc don't have 7 3/4" anything)
Can also try Balmoral MillWork located in Woodbridge (Langstaff rd and Hwy 400). They carry a good selection of many profiles.
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hoob wrote:
Dec 1st, 2017 5:47 pm
Two questions for anyone reading:

* Any good Toronto area suppliers for baseboard? Central Fairbanks doesn't have the exact pattern I need and not anything really close, so hope there's some other places I can look (HD/Lowe's/etc don't have 7 3/4" anything)
* Where's a good place to get iron pipe fittings/pipe for architectural work in Toronto? I want to add a little railing thing at the top right of the stairs once everything is done
Emery Woodworking Ltd, they are on Hwy 50 just before bolton

The black iron pipe you can get at HD/Lowes or most hvac supply stores
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hoob.

Thanks for taking the time to start this thread as I know it takes a lot of time and energy to take photos and post as well as update and answer questions. I know it will be very helpful to many member and appreciated by all.

Project looks amazing.
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rex lumber. cheapest by far.
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Week 3, in which hoob trudges on and does more stuff slowly..

Thanks for the feedback on the trim/millwork suppliers, I will check them out this weekend.

This week has been relatively slow. With the subfloor done, I decided to tackle the closets for each room. They are/were the only "original" parts of the house left, still with plaster/lath and ancient wall paper. So a messy, dusty demo took place:

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Despite using a half face mask, still coughing and blowing grey goop from all the dust. Ugh. While I was there, also re-did the attic hatch and took a look at the blow-in insulation. Unfortunately, whichever company the previous owner had do it to R50 allegedly, did a pisspot job and only actually blew in about 40% of the attic, the rest still has nothing.

As an aside, here's your quality 1917 roof peak construction:

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Since aside from the peak shown above I have a PITA flat roof, instead of DIY blow-in insulation I am having professionals to it on Thursday. I have a small attic so they company claims their minimum charge will cover doing everything properly.

So once that is done, I will put in the wall covering for the closets. BTW I decided to completely remove the dividing wall between the closets to have one shared closet between the rooms. A future owner can simply build a new wall in place if needed. Now I have a single pass-through closet, completely insulated with ROXUL (neighbour/sound and ceiling for attic) and lined with plywood so that I know I can anchor closet structures on any wall and anywhere on the walls:

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Once that is done, on Friday I should be starting on floor removal for the remaining small bedroom.

I've been doing about a daily Home Depot run to pick up supplies for the day/etc. Since HD sends you email receipt, I have been entering every single "survey" link on every receipt. Hope I win the $3000 GC prize!
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How do you plan on finishing the walls in the shared closet? Drywall on the plywood?
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How do you plan on finishing the walls in the shared closet? Drywall on the plywood?
3/16" simple pine panelling with 3X coats of varnish, about $1/sf from Lowe's in 8x3,5: bundles of 6 planks (Home Depot doesn't seem to carry this.) Very cheap and quick to put up with construction adhesive and/or a brad stapler. I was going to do it in cedar panelling/planking but too expensive and I don't have much wool/fur or moths problem so why bother. I could do it with drywall by why bother, the space is a PITA to work in and I'm not very good at drywall.

I did something similar in the basement bathroom. Obviously if you don't like the "wood panelling" look you wouldn't go this route but for small spaces I like that it differentiates the area and warms it up a bit (imho).

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Day 25, wherein hoob gets the office done faster

After getting the attic blow-in insulation done, I transferred all my stuff from the office to the bedroom so I can work on the office. It went quite a bit faster since it's a smaller room, and I knew a bit more what I was doing having "learned" in the bedroom.

Before picture of the empty office, about 9x14':

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Thursday: Transfer everything, and remove floating laminate floor, and feline inspector check

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Friday: Remove tile, underlayer, and subfloor, you can see the ceiling below is more modern work from 2013 when I redid the kitchen.

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Saturday: Install blocking, level/plane joists, seal fire/airblock with neighbour ... I like spray foam ..

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Monday: Install subfloor in office and remaining half of closet

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I properly calculated the plywood requirements, and ended up with about 40% of one sheet left over, out of 12.

I've picked up the air tools for flooring install from a friend and should be able to start installing mid week. Unfortunately Darmaga forgot to include my stair nosing in the order so there's a bit of a delay.
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Gotta love rfd. Unemployed? No job prospects? All the time in the world? Hell I won’t look for a job, I’ll renovate my house and blog about it lol
Red_Army will be pleased to know that I received a job offer which I have accepted, and will be starting a new job on Jan 9th. Wooo! So I gotta wrap this up in the next few weeks for sure, and trade in my DIY reno hands back in for soft fragile software development typing hands.. :D
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Looks great, hoob. No rest for the wicked, good luck with the new job!
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The before pic of that office looked good, I probably would have kept it tbh.
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Congrats on the new job! Will we be expecting more updates between now and when you start in early Jan?? Winking FaceWinking Face
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Day 33, in which hoob finally installs some actual hardwood as part of his Hardwood Flooring project

It was a relatively quiet week as there was a delay getting my hardwood order in from Vintage to Darmaga Hardwood. So one of the things I was able to do was finish up the closets with the gloss pine paneling. Nothing fancy but it's good enough:

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Saturday was a day of heavy lifting. I picked up the lumber and brought it home and brought it all upstairs without slipping on any snow or stepping on any of the cats. Then, I hauled a bit more than a 1T of waste to the transfer station, which I had been stacking up in my back alley area.

The Vintage "solid sawn" products specifically advise against any acclimatization process, so I just let them sit in the room over the weekend:

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Then today on Monday I finally got around to actual installation of some hardwood, after a month of "preparation".

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19 boxes of wood on the floor,
19 boxes of wood;
You break one down and nail it sound,
18 boxes of wood on the floor!


I was only able to get a bit installed since it was the more complex area and setting the home rows and undercuts etc. The stair nosing is on backorder from Vintage and will be available sometime in January. So I should be able to do most of the stair treads before that (at the very least, the top riser only is needed..) Waiting for my custom stain from Steeles Paint to match my flooring on red oak stair treads.

Next steps:

* Finish installation in the full rooms and move around furniture as needed (2-3 days)
* Get baseboard and prime/paint on the main floor, then move upstairs through a window due to long pieces
* Prepare the staircase for overlay treads by removing existing material, sawing off existing tread nose, and patching
* Template, cut, sand, stain, and finish the stair treads
* Install stair treads, risers, and nosing
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The before pic of that office looked good, I probably would have kept it tbh.
I kept it for 6 years and probably could keep it about 5-10+ years, but decided to just go ahead and to it while I had the spare time.

Someone asked me via PM about squeaky subfloors..

While I'm no expert, people should note that my solution of ripping up the subfloor completely and putting in new plywood, is not necessarily the required solution for squeaky floors.

If your floor/subfloor are relatively even already, but merely squeaky, there's a few techniques you can try to improve it without redoing everything. Lots of info online about this topic as well:

* Add lots and lots of screws to anchor the subfloor to the joists from above. You will need to remove/replace carpet, laminate, hardwood flooring etc to do this
* Add extra blocking between joists if you have access from underneath (for example, unfinished basement)
* If there are specific weak/bouncy/squeaky spots, access from below can add reinforcement, etc.
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Day 38, in which the project is not complete but wrapped up for the holidays to be resumed in 2018

Well, I am a slow worker and only 5-6 hours a day, so I wasn't able to finish off all the upstairs. Oh well, plenty of time in 2018!

Finished off the office floor, baseboard/show, and repainted the remaining trim:

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The Character grade from Vintage has a lot of shorter pieces so it was a PITA to try and mitigate the brick/staircase look in the wood, there's some spots I'd like a redo on but overall it's good enough.

Ended up getting the baseboard from Brenlo Custom Wood Mouldings since they were one of the few who had 8 or 8.5" baseboard stock, let alone any choice! Not cheap, but in the grand scheme of things it didn't break the band.

Rex Lumber certainly is an experience that's slightly different to Brenlo, for example. They did have some 8.5" poplar baseboard but only one style that wasn't what I wanted. But about 40% cheaper!

I forgot to put wax paper between the baseboard/base show and the floor, so now when I walk on the floor and the room deflects a fraction of a mm, there is popping/cracking sound from the baseboard. I hope that will eventually attenuate. For the bedroom I will add in a folded strip of wax paper between trim and floor to avoid this. :|


The house remains a zoo, with the kitchen and basement being the only unhindered rooms of the house. My living room is a staging area for 12-14' trim segments and various other bits.

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Anyway, on to 2018 and Happy Christmas everyone!
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Day ??, hoob finishes the flooring phase...

After coming back from holidays travel, spent a few days finishing up the bedroom.

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Here's the closet with its secret compartment (opened by putting a screw in a screwhole and pulling up):

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Next step is waiting for the stair nosing to come in and work on the stair treads. This will be a weekends project over the next month as I return to regular employment.

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