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How is Blackberry 10 not just a me too?

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How is Blackberry 10 not just a me too?

On the surface, the layout is the same as apple, the material finish is the same as apple. The UI is pretty similar to apple. How is it not a copy?
I really dont see how it sets itself apart from what has already been done by apple. Android copied apple nice and early, and it took them 4yrs to get to a level where you can say its a great alternative. Now BB10, like 5yrs late to the game comes with another me too device.

What is the reasoning? Are they banking on current BB users wanting the iphone experience, but has brand preference to blackberry?

Im not understanding all the hype.
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Well people love to hate. I'm glad I'm not the only one to think the phone finish looks like Apple's.
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Last years model.. today.
That is what BlackBerry is pawning off to all the BBM-Believers who want to be cool like the Android and iPhone users.

...wait for it... Galaxy S4
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It brings Blackberry into mix re: OS.
It has nice features, but no it is not revolutionary. It looks very nice and the z10 seems like a good device, but I am unsure if BB can be viable as a company as a distant 3rd / 4th in the industry.
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BBM and BES is its selling points....,as well as there antennas ( usually get stronger signals and less dropped calls in same areas of other devices ).


bb's main selling feature is its business connectivity, not its fancy touch screen or game /mp3 capability.
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I think BB brings a lot to the game, and I say that as an Apple user.

Google was never a consumer oriented company. Samsung was never a software company. Neither had much experience in creating top tier user experiences (Samsung has made great monitors and TVs for years but those are passive experiences). The Android platform was originally conceived and designed for an entirely different category of device with entirely different goals than what exists today. No party controls the experience from end-to-end with Android. For all of the reasons and others, it took Android years to catch up.

Like Apple, BB owns their software. They own the hardware. They can optimize for both. BB has had 5 years now to observe and learn from both iOS and Android platforms and is starting from scratch, which iOS and Android each now have a few years of built up additions and design decisions that were made early that perhaps would have been different in hindsight. BB has a lot of tribal knowledge in the area from years of experience. Beyond Apple, BB owns and controls their BBM and BES systems and has long had a reputation for security and reliability.

I don't think there is any denying it is a me-too device. But any platform that follows the original is a me-too device. The difference is whether they can differentiate their product and whether they can make it a success. I think the first is yes, within the confines of a platform that resembles a modern mobile platform, they can and are differentiating their offerings and feature set where possible. The second, whether they can make it a success, will have to be seen.
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I love the UI, it first got my attention when I had the PlayBook. BB10 is more polished. I love the use of Gestures, which is why I thought it was the best tablet. Like BB10 the lack of Apps was a deal breaker.

I really thought BlackBerry figured it all out. I love my new Z10 but I can't see myself keeping if they don't get their !@#$ together.

When they annouced and pushing 70k apps before it launched I thought we would get some of the most popular.
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Almost every new smartphone today is "me too", no?
And why not? You don't seem to complain about 500 different laptops, 50 kinds of bread in a supermarket or 20 compact sedans available?
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bembol wrote:
Feb 7th, 2013 4:11 pm
I love the UI, it first got my attention when I had the PlayBook. BB10 is more polished. I love the use of Gestures, which is why I thought it was the best tablet. Like BB10 the lack of Apps was a deal breaker.

I really thought BlackBerry figured it all out. I love my new Z10 but I can't see myself keeping if they don't get their !@#$ together.

When they annouced and pushing 70k apps before it launched I thought we would get some of the most popular.
Can't really blame them for the lack of apps though. They were throwing everything and the kitchen sink out there to get developers on board. But it is the chicken and egg problem. Developers don't want to invest the resources to bring their apps until the user base is there, but many users are holding off until the apps are there.

If you want the app developers to move their apps to BB10, you need to pester them. Developers want to go where the money is but they will listen to customer demand. Send them emails, post on forums about specific apps, get other users to contact them, etc. Another way to drive attention is to buy apps. Developers pay attention to numbers. If reports of app sales are very positive, that will influence them to consider their own apps.
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Lets see, I've been called an iSheep so I guess they're a BlackSheep or SheepBerry. The Z10 is not even a me too device, it's two years too late for that. Gotta say I do like the smart keyboard. At least folks with existing BlackBerries can expect timely OS updates from now on (oh wait)...
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BlueBill wrote:
Feb 7th, 2013 4:23 pm
Lets see, I've been called an iSheep so I guess they're a BlackSheep or SheepBerry. The Z10 is not even a me too device, it's two years too late for that. Gotta say I do like the smart keyboard. At least folks with existing BlackBerries can expect timely OS updates from now on (oh wait)...
You know, I really hate it when Android user troll iPhone specific threads. I dislike it just as much when iPhone users do it.
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BlueBill wrote:
Feb 7th, 2013 4:23 pm
Lets see, I've been called an iSheep so I guess they're a BlackSheep or SheepBerry. The Z10 is not even a me too device, it's two years too late for that. Gotta say I do like the smart keyboard. At least folks with existing BlackBerries can expect timely OS updates from now on (oh wait)...
What do you mean by two years too late? What was so special 2 years ago?
And better late than never.
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ceredon wrote:
Feb 7th, 2013 4:27 pm
You know, I really hate it when Android user troll iPhone specific threads. I dislike it just as much when iPhone users do it.
IMHO BlackBerry just doesn't have the time or resources to play catch up now. I can iMessage on my Mac or any of my iOS devices, can I BB messenger outside their phone? I just don't see how BB can claw their way to third place (over WP8) without an ecosystem or partnership in place.

Anyway you'll love the ignore feature this forum offers.
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Here is the problem. New features and innovation in this space is getting to be so marginal that the phones are increasingly commoditized. Does Z10 have some cool features? Yes, but so does every other phone. Increasingly hard to tell one from the other. I wish BB the best but not sure any of this stuff is a gamechanger for them.
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bpopd wrote:
Feb 7th, 2013 3:34 pm
On the surface, the layout is the same as apple, the material finish is the same as apple. The UI is pretty similar to apple. How is it not a copy?
I really dont see how it sets itself apart from what has already been done by apple. Android copied apple nice and early, and it took them 4yrs to get to a level where you can say its a great alternative. Now BB10, like 5yrs late to the game comes with another me too device.

What is the reasoning? Are they banking on current BB users wanting the iphone experience, but has brand preference to blackberry?

Im not understanding all the hype.
I don't think they copied the ancient and low tech iPhone. I mean the Bb actually has a HD screen, can actually multi task and can actually handle notifications.

The iPhone has none of that. The iPhone is a me too device for past 3 years and always trying to chase android and Samsung. They copied camera features. Copied larger screens but failed completely with the small outdated retina display and the phone is so ancient it can't even multitask lol
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