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How is Blackberry 10 not just a me too?

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kingtosh82 wrote:
Feb 9th, 2013 3:24 pm
Nope - I'm not a BB employee. I'm just not an ignorant consumer. I try out a device before I buy it and make my own judgements. It's quite refreshing actually.
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kingtosh82 wrote:
Feb 9th, 2013 3:24 pm
Nope - I'm not a BB employee. I'm just not an ignorant consumer. I try out a device before I buy it and make my own judgements. It's quite refreshing actually.
It was refreshing, for about a day - then I sold the phone I won from the #BlackBerry10NYC event.

BB10 is a huge improvement for current BlackBerry users while current Apple and Google users have compromises in order to get a few of the benefits BB10 offers. It only gets better from here for BlackBerry, hopefully...
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kingtosh82 wrote:
Feb 9th, 2013 2:02 pm

BBM >>> iMessage
BBM Video >>> Facetime >>> Skype
BBM Voice >>> Skype
Is this a joke?
iMessage + Gtalk + WhatsApp + Facebook Messenger + Skype + Kakao + Line + Any other messaging app available under the sun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BBM

Now BBM is great, the problem is... relative to market share nobody uses bbm anymore.

Probably you will make the argument the android ports (sorry bb10 apps) are coming but as a consumer why should I wait months for the apps I need now?
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BBM has many more features than the apps you listed. Status updates, group chats, calendar integration, location sharing, media sharing, data compression, free voip calls over WiFi, and now video and screen sharing with BB10.

You're right - my BBM contact list has definitely shrunk over the past year or so, but it doesn't make iMessage better than BBM.

If you live and die by apps and are heavily invested in Apple's app ecosystem, then it's not worthwhile for you to switch over. But as I already mentioned, 90% of the top 500 iOS and Android apps are already available for BB10. Skype and Netflix are on their way as well, most likely in time for the US launch in March.

Skype has confirmed that it's BB10 app will be an Android port. So what's wrong with that? If it works just as well on BB10 as it does on Android, that's all that matters.
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Feb 9th, 2013 4:00 pm
Is this a joke?
iMessage + Gtalk + WhatsApp + Facebook Messenger + Skype + Kakao + Line + Any other messaging app available under the sun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BBM

Now BBM is great, the problem is... relative to market share nobody uses bbm anymore.

Probably you will make the argument the android ports (sorry bb10 apps) are coming but as a consumer why should I wait months for the apps I need now?
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kingtosh82 wrote:
Feb 9th, 2013 4:14 pm
BBM has many more features than the apps you listed. Status updates, group chats, calendar integration, location sharing, media sharing, data compression, free voip calls over WiFi, and now video and screen sharing with BB10.

You're right - my BBM contact list has definitely shrunk over the past year or so, but it doesn't make iMessage better than BBM.

If you live and die by apps and are heavily invested in Apple's app ecosystem, then it's not worthwhile for you to switch over. But as I already mentioned, 90% of the top 500 iOS and Android apps are already available for BB10. Skype and Netflix are on their way as well, most likely in time for the US launch in March.

Skype has confirmed that it's BB10 app will be an Android port. So what's wrong with that? If it works just as well on BB10 as it does on Android, that's all that matters.
Ouch, a bit of a scoff from MS not investing in skype on the z10.

Instagram sounds like a port also.

why oh why..
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Yeah, I agree. But if it runs just as good as a native app, no one will know except nerds like us. :)

I have a feeling that Instagram will be native. Facebook and RIM ..err.. BlackBerry have a good relationship. The Facebook app is native and uses Cascades. But then again, just like Skype, if it is a port and runs just as smooth, no one will tell the difference.
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Ouch, a bit of a scoff from MS not investing in skype on the z10.

Instagram sounds like a port also.

why oh why..
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kingtosh82 wrote:
Feb 9th, 2013 2:02 pm
Skype is coming (confirmed). Netflix is coming (confirmed). 90% of the top 500 Apps in the App Store are already in BlackBerry World.
Most of this post is hater/fanboy BS, but I've highlighted my favourite part.

Calling your bluff on this one, you're full of it.
Netflix was NEVER confirmed.
There are nowhere NEAR 90% of the top apps in BB World. I'm looking at Google play and App Store as well.
I see ONE of the top 50...Angry Birds Star Wars.

Just because you type things, doesn't make them true.
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I don't hate iOS. I just think it's boring and dated. BB10 offers users a fresh user experience.

There ARE 90% of the top 600 iOS and Android apps in BlackBerry World. This is FACT. Here's the link to prove it: http://www.blackberryos.com/content/bla ... unch-4933/

Let me ask you something - let's pretend that BB and Apple both had the exact same apps in their respective app stores. Would you still hate BB as much as you do? What kinds of innovations are you looking for in a smartphone that would make you switch platforms? I just curious...

Let me ask you another thing - what do you have against BlackBerry? Why do you hate it so much? Is your entire self esteem tied to the smartphone you use?

Just because you choose to ignore things, doesn't make them less true.
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Feb 9th, 2013 11:09 pm
Most of this post is hater/fanboy BS, but I've highlighted my favourite part.

Calling your bluff on this one, you're full of it.
Netflix was NEVER confirmed.
There are nowhere NEAR 90% of the top apps in BB World. I'm looking at Google play and App Store as well.
I see ONE of the top 50...Angry Birds Star Wars.

Just because you type things, doesn't make them true.
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I was WTF, 90% of the Top 500. LOL

I only have 3 apps installed. Angry Birds Star Wars, Flixter & TuneIn.

I'm not asking for 500. I only want 7.
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Guess you missed the part where I'm looking in app world right now. There are next to none of the top apps. Angry birds is the only one in the top 50. That is a FACT, backed up by actual evidence (or lack of it in this case).

What metric are they using to measure the "top 600" apps. Because they're not using apple or googles official top apps lists.
kingtosh82 wrote:
Feb 9th, 2013 11:37 pm
I don't hate iOS. I just think it's boring and dated. BB10 offers users a fresh user experience.

There ARE 90% of the top 600 iOS and Android apps in BlackBerry World. This is FACT. Here's the link to prove it: http://www.blackberryos.com/content/bla ... unch-4933/

Let me ask you something - let's pretend that BB and Apple both had the exact same apps in their respective app stores. Would you still hate BB as much as you do? What kinds of innovations are you looking for in a smartphone that would make you switch platforms? I just curious...

Let me ask you another thing - what do you have against BlackBerry? Why do you hate it so much? Is your entire self esteem tied to the smartphone you use?

Just because you choose to ignore things, doesn't make them less true.
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I just dont understand what is the fuzz about the Android ports .. here is a video of Google Navigation ( which was taken 4mths ago on dev Alpha A) .. This is on Gingerbread Runtime and BB Promised Jellybean is coming .. QNX handles Runtimes fluently ..

BTW i do love Native Apps built on Cascades .. but something is better than waiting .

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What iSheeps don't grasp is the smartphone/tablet world does NOT revolve around Apple anymore, the game has shifted to Google and it's Android's lead to lose now. iOS and other iCraps have been continually losing grip and is only a couple years away from disappearing into oblivion, much like Macs did in the 90's. The core players in this sector will soon be Google and MS, and everyone knows it. I wish BB makes a phenomenal comeback and round out the top 3.
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bottom line is the masses want apps. if they want more sales, they must bolster their app market. selling phones to only business people wont cut it, especialy since most other phones do everything the BB can do.

all BB has is their security, and BBM if you can even call that a feature.
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Feb 10th, 2013 1:37 am
bottom line is the masses want apps. if they want more sales, they must bolster their app market. selling phones to only business people wont cut it, especialy since most other phones do everything the BB can do.

all BB has is their security, and BBM if you can even call that a feature.
The apps argument is there but is abused with no substance. With the hundreds of thousands or so apps out there how many does a single person actually use/need? People will play games here and there and stick with the 'core' apps like Googlemaps/Skype etc. No one (unless they have no life and just use apps 24/7 *exaggeration*) will regularly use even 100 apps at a time. No different then on PC, or even on a gaming console.

Its not a numbers game, as long as BB10 can provide the popular apps and keep up with regular updates and future apps then it'll do fine.
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ilove wrote:
Feb 10th, 2013 1:36 am
What iSheeps don't grasp is the smartphone/tablet world does NOT revolve around Apple anymore, the game has shifted to Google and it's Android's lead to lose now. iOS and other iCraps have been continually losing grip and is only a couple years away from disappearing into oblivion, much like Macs did in the 90's. The core players in this sector will soon be Google and MS, and everyone knows it. I wish BB makes a phenomenal comeback and round out the top 3.
Lol apple and Samsung own the smartphone world, apple still the tablet world

Yes there is slippage and people are predicting a downward trend but apple is still on top of the mountain because they make the most money and are still seen as the benchmark

Has iOS gotten a little long in the tooth? Yes but its a simple rock solid os that is very well done.

Fanboys and nerds ( me included) just keep harping about the fact that its doesn't share as well as android and its gotten boring...

Deep pockets means they'll be able to stay in the game
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