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How do I check the pay band for a position at a college in Toronto

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unowned wrote:
Jun 15th, 2018 4:59 pm
As men, its inevitable that we're competitive among our closest friends.

There are many ways to skin a cat in either the public or private sector. That being said, as an outsider looking in, I feel that there is so much opaqueness and red tape that whatever you would theorize someone in the public sector with a specific set of skills would earn, will not end up being what he makes - whether its deserved or not.

so OP, seems like your friend got lucky, and you are not.
Share your wisdom please why am I not lucky? Because I have friend that I can't trust ? (he started lying about his wife's salary and I am doubting his statement about his salary)

Or because I have to read opinions like yours :-)
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JFlash20 wrote:
Jun 15th, 2018 8:40 pm
I agree, that's what I took from it as well.
He was completely off and showing off... the point is that in that job category (support and not academic) that pay grade is the very high end
Our Skywalker here posted his rate to show something that nobody denied ...useless in other words. And as I said he never disclosed how much he is paying in taxes :-))
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I find it very odd that you expend so much energy trying to disprove something a friend mentioned. You must be kind of weird. Why do you care?
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Here is a possible reference point:

https://ca.linkedin.com/jobs/view/hvac- ... -659654489

HVAC Technician

Payband I: Start rate $33.67, Maximum rate $39.02

If this is the band that your friend is in ... it seems possible if he is including everything.

It's been adjusted, but you can find the S...a College Support Staff Union Collective Agreement here (just need to find out what payband his job would fall in to):

https://opseu561.org/contact/

(I see the agreement was posted earlier in the thread)
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renoldman wrote:
Jun 17th, 2018 8:22 am
Here is a possible reference point:

https://ca.linkedin.com/jobs/view/hvac- ... -659654489

HVAC Technician

Payband I: Start rate $33.67, Maximum rate $39.02

If this is the band that your friend is in ... it seems possible if he is including everything.

It's been adjusted, but you can find the S...a College Support Staff Union Collective Agreement here (just need to find out what payband his job would fall in to):

https://opseu561.org/contact/

(I see the agreement was posted earlier in the thread)
That's the question, who states their pay after taxes? If I were to answer someone, I would answer with my gross, as I think most normal people would.
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CuriousC wrote:
Jun 14th, 2018 7:50 pm
I think I made it clear that as per that table he can't earn that money. Period.
If he makes that money his manager does not fit into that grid
The highest pay bands are indeed for jobs like IT and managers or jobs that require university degree; his does not.
As far as my investment in studies goes, to set you at rest I must tell you that I am not impressed with what a proffesor makes in a college position. What he forgets to say it that a good chunk of money goes to taxes :-)) I guess now you know where I am comming from and why I don't feel unsecure in regards to my guy's salary
So how much do you make? And I believe most high end paying jobs you don't need a degree. Hell, I might even be making more than you in a job that doesn't require a degree
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tmkf_patryk wrote:
Jun 19th, 2018 2:57 am
So how much do you make? And I believe most high end paying jobs you don't need a degree. Hell, I might even be making more than you in a job that doesn't require a degree
I am quite sure a porn star does not require a PHD and makes more money than I do :-)
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CuriousC wrote:
Jun 19th, 2018 7:00 am
I am quite sure a porn star does not require a PHD and makes more money than I do :-)
So if you agree that high paying jobs don't necessarily require a degree, why did you put so much emphasis on your posts?

IM happy to hear a fellow technician making good coin
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tmkf_patryk wrote:
Jun 19th, 2018 2:20 pm
So if you agree that high paying jobs don't necessarily require a degree, why did you put so much emphasis on your posts?

IM happy to hear a fellow technician making good coin
Well your question gives your measure. If this is what you understood from the whole thread I am not going to run extra miles to change your understanding because I don't have to deal with you on a daily basis :-)

Every job must strike a balance between the intellect/muscle power required for that job and the payment. The job also pays for the scarcity of that intellectual resource or skill on the market.
If there is an imbalance then something else is involved (ex: extracting oil from tar sands in winter at -40C and living in a remote area making tons of money and not having where or on what to spend them :-D )
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CuriousC wrote:
Jun 20th, 2018 7:47 am
Well your question gives your measure. If this is what you understood from the whole thread I am not going to run extra miles to change your understanding because I don't have to deal with you on a daily basis :-)

Every job must strike a balance between the intellect/muscle power required for that job and the payment. The job also pays for the scarcity of that intellectual resource or skill on the market.
If there is an imbalance then something else is involved (ex: extracting oil from tar sands in winter at -40C and living in a remote area making tons of money and not having where or on what to spend them :-D )
What I get from your thread is you have a friend or an acquaintance who you suspect is lying. And you want to prove him wrong. Seriously sounds like you got nothing better to do. If you think he's bragging about all the money he's making, then play along. Call him Mr boss, call him moneybags, call him Mr richguy. And then ask him to pay for dinner or drinks when you two go out for some beers since he's "loaded".

You can get some free grub.
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tmkf_patryk wrote:
Jun 20th, 2018 10:40 am
What I get from your thread is you have a friend or an acquaintance who you suspect is lying. And you want to prove him wrong. Seriously sounds like you got nothing better to do. If you think he's bragging about all the money he's making, then play along. Call him Mr boss, call him moneybags, call him Mr richguy. And then ask him to pay for dinner or drinks when you two go out for some beers since he's "loaded".

You can get some free grub.
That is what uneducated people do and your recommendations show how much you understand in general and how much you understand from this thread.
Teasing him like that is cheap, it rather disrespects myself, I will beg for his favors, there is better ways to get to him if I even think about that and make that a purpose
If one of us will get as low as that to ask for that type of favours that would be him because even with that salary I will be Mr. WhateverYouCallHimAbove.

This whole thing was just for me to confirm my suspicions, nothing else. As a matter of fact I lent him money for a couple of months to pay his car in full to save the "pay cash discount" when he bought it. That after I paid mine the same way the week before... I had the truth about his financial power right there. (could be a temporary situation but yet...)
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Admin people can easily make 70k in unionized college environment, so I seriously don't doubt this guy in a trade position isn't making 75k.

He most likely has a 40/h work week and probably has OT and on-call rates as well. As previously mentioned, nobody states what they earn after tax, it is always gross income.
According to the 2017 payband and say he has been working there for 2 years (probably longer?) and I am sure at minimum, he is at least in payband F, if not higher:

So he is making at least $59k - 95k...how is this not believeable that he is at 75k? This is simple math... hourly rate x 40 hrs x 52 weeks in a year.
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