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How to get admitted to a better university after doing poorly in highschool?

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How to get admitted to a better university after doing poorly in highschool?

I still have 2 required courses left so all is not lost. Regardless, because of living at home and some other circumstances, I did poorly in one course and am only doing really mediocre in general. I need a change in living arrangements, and for the most part, my dad will pay for it. How can I get admitted to a better university assuming I can get significantly better grades?

I suggested transferring to a different university using first year grades but my dad tells me that method is exceedingly difficult and unreliable. Im lost
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You could stay back and essentially re-do Grade 12.. and depending on the university, your higher marks will count when you re-apply. If you just need one semester to boost your grades, you can do that and work for the second semester.

And def transferring after first year at whatever university is a possibility, but don't have much experience with that.
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jaquehammer wrote:
Dec 20th, 2018 9:42 am
I still have 2 required courses left so all is not lost. Regardless, because of living at home and some other circumstances, I did poorly in one course and am only doing really mediocre in general. I need a change in living arrangements, and for the most part, my dad will pay for it. How can I get admitted to a better university assuming I can get significantly better grades?

I suggested transferring to a different university using first year grades but my dad tells me that method is exceedingly difficult and unreliable. Im lost
Program > University name - especially for your undergrad. The university you attend for undergrad ONLY really matters for BUSINESS PROGRAMS and some engineering program (Waterloo and U of T > everything else). Otherwise, nobody gives a rat's ass where you go.

Is the degree/program you want to go into employable? There are BA/BSc graduates from even U of T and McGill struggling to find jobs. So are you sure that attending a higher ranked school is going to necessarily have an impact on your future after undergrad?

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Do a community college program and then transfer in to the university of your choice. It'll end up cheaper overall, you'll transfer into the middle of the university program, and you'll have the diploma under your belt while you study for your degree.
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if it's possible can you share your expected GPA (estimate) when graduating and which province you're looking to apply? Mediocre means different things to different people, it can mean B+ to some and C+ to others. The hardest thing is to be honest and make hard choices at this stage.

If it's just one course that's dragging you down, you should look into simply repeating that course next term or in the summer especially if this course is a requirement. If it's an optional course, you should look whether you can omit that in your GPA calculation when applying to college.

Another option (as someone pointed out) is to look at local colleges and apply there then transfer after 1 or 2 years. You have to be careful because some colleges have cooperations with major universities where some majors are transferable (e.g., graphic design, nursing...) whereas some other majors are not. You gotta do the leg work and figure this out on your own.

Another option is apply to the university as a generalist. This is why it's important to know exactly which universities you're considering/hoping to get in. In some universities, unless you're applying to a specific faculty (like engineering), you do not have to declare a major until your second year, which makes your GPA requirement much lower. So that gives you the extra time to boost your GPA in your freshmen year and get in the major you want later.

Also, you should really take the time and visit a counselor at the university you want to apply (make appointment first). Be honest with him/her about your academic situation, tell what your situation is and what you're hoping achieve (whether to just get in college or a specific major). The counselor will know the best course of action for you and may make some suggestions. Some universities may also have "summer school" or something like "catch up class" to get new high school students caught up to the first year requirement.

Lastly, I hope I don't offend you, but if your "mediocre" GPA is around C+ or B-, you gotta ask yourself are you really cut out for college? Personally, I was an A student in high school and when I got to college my 1st two year average was a B+. Generally, expect your college GPA to drop by a half to one letter grade (of course there are exceptions). While I think college is great, you really gotta think whether it's money and time well spent for your own personal situation. I'm only saying this because I was really immature in my first years in college and actually dropped out, worked, then transferred to another university and finished my degree. My biggest mistake was not taking my decisions seriously and wasted all that time. So I'm just saying if your mediocre in high school now you really gotta make some hard decisions so you don't waste your next 3-4 years and money on something you just want in order to keep some living arrangement.

All the best man
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Electrah wrote:
Dec 20th, 2018 11:18 am
You could stay back and essentially re-do Grade 12..
Im gonna try to redo the course in the 2nd semester. However, some universities disregard it
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Capricornxs wrote:
Dec 20th, 2018 5:53 pm
if it's possible can you share your expected GPA (estimate) when graduating and which province you're looking to apply? Mediocre means different things to different people, it can mean B+ to some and C+ to others. The hardest thing is to be honest and make hard choices at this stage.
I think my average should be between 84 and 88 in the 2nd semester. Im going to try to redo the one course im doing poorly in.

I dont know if this situation would exempt me, but i think the reason why i struggle is because i am depressed. Ive really just been in autopilot mode, and treating things i do on a daily basis like it has an impact on my own life has been thus far out of my consideration. I wonder if this has as strong an impact on my grades as it does on my psyche lol


thank you for your good graces!
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Brown Thug wrote:
Dec 20th, 2018 1:06 pm
Program > University name - especially for your undergrad. The university you attend for undergrad ONLY really matters for BUSINESS PROGRAMS and some engineering program (Waterloo and U of T > everything else). Otherwise, nobody gives a rat's ass where you go.
My plan makes sense to me! im looking at civil engineering ATM. im generally interested in engineering but my father is doing really well running his own construction company so this seems like a very safe option.
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jaquehammer wrote:
Dec 20th, 2018 8:35 pm
I think my average should be between 84 and 88 in the 2nd semester. Im going to try to redo the one course im doing poorly in.

I dont know if this situation would exempt me, but i think the reason why i struggle is because i am depressed. Ive really just been in autopilot mode, and treating things i do on a daily basis like it has an impact on my own life has been thus far out of my consideration. I wonder if this has as strong an impact on my grades as it does on my psyche lol


thank you for your good graces!
A final GPA of 85+ should get you in some good second tier universities. So I don't know which province you're in, but you really need above 90+ to get into places like UBC, UT, Waterloo, Queens, UWO... but second tiers like U of Alberta (some might say it's not second tier), York, U of Manitoba, Dalhousie, U of Sask (if you wanna go there) should consider your application with a fair shot given an average GPA but great application package (e.g., reference letters, written essays, extra curricular activities...). In the end, your GPA counts but other stuff might also lift you pass the threshold.

Honestly if you THINK you're going through depression, talk to someone. Maybe a school counselor or a clinic. Going to college might make it better or worse, and you just wanna be prepared for it. College is a great experience, but it's also a ton of pressure. You just wanna be sure you are in a good place and have some back up.

and... in some cases, having a doctor to back up your depression can also alleviate some of your poor performances on your application, especially say your high school trend shows you were only going through a rough patch at some specific time. It might seem like a cop out (to admit that you didn't do well b/c you were depressed) but don't think that it's lame to admit it. One thing i've learned from my personal experience is that most colleges genuinely want to help each student to succeed. So if you have documentation that can show that you have extenuating circumstances, it should make your application better too.
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Brown Thug wrote:
Dec 20th, 2018 1:06 pm
Program > University name - especially for your undergrad. The university you attend for undergrad ONLY really matters for BUSINESS PROGRAMS and some engineering program (Waterloo and U of T > everything else). Otherwise, nobody gives a rat's ass where you go.

Is the degree/program you want to go into employable? There are BA/BSc graduates from even U of T and McGill struggling to find jobs. So are you sure that attending a higher ranked school is going to necessarily have an impact on your future after undergrad?
Well said.
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Brown Thug wrote:
Dec 20th, 2018 1:06 pm
Program > University name - especially for your undergrad. The university you attend for undergrad ONLY really matters for BUSINESS PROGRAMS and some engineering program (Waterloo and U of T > everything else). Otherwise, nobody gives a rat's ass where you go.

They do if you want to go to graduate school or a professional program after your B.A.
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Piro21 wrote:
Dec 20th, 2018 1:51 pm
you'll transfer into the middle of the university program

Not necessarily.
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jaquehammer wrote:
Dec 20th, 2018 8:47 pm
My plan makes sense to me! im looking at civil engineering ATM. im generally interested in engineering
If you are struggling in high school you will have difficulty being accepted into an engineering program, and even more difficulty succeeding in it if you did manage to get in.

but my father is doing really well running his own construction company so this seems like a very safe option.
Take a relevant college program, go to work for your Dad, then take over the family business when he retires.
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SkynyrdsInyrds wrote:
Dec 25th, 2018 11:03 am
They do if you want to go to graduate school or a professional program after your B.A.
I went to professional school after my BA. Nobody cares where you did your undergrad in Canada; they're all the same. They don't even care in the US, as I know someone who did his BA at York and went to Yale law school. https://www.speakers.ca/speakers/jamil-jivani/

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