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How many m3 (natural gas) do you use per month?

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How many m3 (natural gas) do you use per month?

Surprisingly, my December bill was higher than I expected: 199 m3 for a totral of $71.30.

Customer charge: $18.00
Delivery to you: $15.34
Transportation to Enbridge: $10.16
Gas supply charge: $30.69
Cost adjustment: $2.89CR
Total new gas charges: $71.30

Usually I am familiar with $50-$55/month bills during the winter, but this bill was the highest ever. I guess it's due to the fact that I eliminated using a portable heater on a periodic basis by raising the thermostat 2 degrees higher.
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Is that value what you read off the meter or is it estimated off the bill? FYI Enbridge isn't known for stellar meter reading.

FYI this comparision will be difficult because of climatic differences throughout the country and even year to year, what your setpoint is, night setbacks, furnace efficiencies, etc. But here goes:

I use 0.8m3/day for hot water. I just had the furnace replaced and I haven't been in the house for a full winter yet, so I won't be able to analyze that fully until spring.

At my old 1500sqft middle unit townhouse, I was using 1 m3/day for hot water and about 0.5m3/HDD11C total (heating degree day at a balance point of 11C). For winter 2008/2009 I used 1372 m3 total, with 365m3 for hot water.
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I just got my first bill in my new home.

From Nov 29th - Dec 15th, I used something like 247m3. House is 2400sqft with a 1200sqft unfinished basement.

I have hot water on demand...set my thermostat to 69 when i am home and 66 at night and when I am not home.

I also have a gas stove/range. Do these values make sense? To me...they seem quite high. Should my thermostat be programmed less?
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The december bill was a reading. The bill before that was an estimate.

NEMESIS_2008 wrote:
Dec 23rd, 2010 10:19 am
Surprisingly, my December bill was higher than I expected: 199 m3 for a totral of $71.30.

Customer charge: $18.00
Delivery to you: $15.34
Transportation to Enbridge: $10.16
Gas supply charge: $30.69
Cost adjustment: $2.89CR
Total new gas charges: $71.30

Usually I am familiar with $50-$55/month bills during the winter, but this bill was the highest ever. I guess it's due to the fact that I eliminated using a portable heater on a periodic basis by raising the thermostat 2 degrees higher.
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How does the metering work? One month they estimate and another month they do a read? Do they credit or bill the difference from the previous estimate?
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Dec 23rd, 2010 10:55 am
Is that value what you read off the meter or is it estimated off the bill? FYI Enbridge isn't known for stellar meter reading.

FYI this comparision will be difficult because of climatic differences throughout the country and even year to year, what your setpoint is, night setbacks, furnace efficiencies, etc. But here goes:

I use 0.8m3/day for hot water. I just had the furnace replaced and I haven't been in the house for a full winter yet, so I won't be able to analyze that fully until spring.

At my old 1500sqft middle unit townhouse, I was using 1 m3/day for hot water and about 0.5m3/HDD11C total (heating degree day at a balance point of 11C). For winter 2008/2009 I used 1372 m3 total, with 365m3 for hot water.
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NEMESIS_2008 wrote:
Dec 23rd, 2010 4:32 pm
How does the metering work? One month they estimate and another month they do a read? Do they credit or bill the difference from the previous estimate?

e.g. month 1: they read 10000
month 2: they estimate 10900 (but actually is 10800 from your meter). They charge you 900 m3.
month 3: they read 11600. They charge you 700 m3.
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NEMESIS_2008 wrote:
Dec 23rd, 2010 4:24 pm
The december bill was a reading. The bill before that was an estimate.

They bill the difference and read every other month. BTW your consumption looks normal and is very close to mine for the month...about 200m3 in my
1800sq ft home. Also the past month has been on the cooler side compared to previous years.
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If you want to do weather-based analysis on your gas bill, you need to take your own readings at least once a month. Enbridge estimates gas bills based on weather, so if you do a weather analysis of the estimates, it's pointless.
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139 m3 for November:

Customer charge: $18.00
Delivery to you: $10.99
Transportation to Enbridge: $7.15
Gas supply charge: $21.59
Cost adjustment: $2.04CR
Total new gas charges: $55.69

1200 sq. foot bungalow with 1000 sq. foot unfinished basement.
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Customer charge is an account fee set by the Ontario Energy Board; it's the absolute minimum you'll pay in a month.
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ok I dont have a natural gas bbq, so is furnace heating the only thing I'm using natural gas in my house? I have a tankless water heater that plugs in, so I don't think it uses natural gas.

Moved in Aug 2000sq ft corner townhouse finnished basement, temp set to 23C all day long in Oct-Dec, and for Aug and Sept it was 18-20C
Aug - 25m3
Sep - 102m3
Oct - 70m3
Nov - 98m3
Dec - 392m3

anyone know how in the world I used Natural gas in Aug or Sept? the A/C on almost all the time? Could it be that if I set the therm to Auto 20C, and the A/C over-cools it to 18C, it would turn on the heat to raise it to 20C?
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chen0289 wrote:
Jan 18th, 2011 12:37 pm
ok I dont have a natural gas bbq, so is furnace heating the only thing I'm using natural gas in my house? I have a tankless water heater that plugs in, so I don't think it uses natural gas.

Moved in Aug 2000sq ft corner townhouse finnished basement, temp set to 23C all day long in Oct-Dec, and for Aug and Sept it was 18-20C
Aug - 25m3
Sep - 102m3
Oct - 70m3
Nov - 98m3
Dec - 392m3

anyone know how in the world I used Natural gas in Aug or Sept? the A/C on almost all the time? Could it be that if I set the therm to Auto 20C, and the A/C over-cools it to 18C, it would turn on the heat to raise it to 20C?

Tankless water heater uses gas
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Not so easy there Ma…
T shaped 2 storey kind of unconventional.
Lots of windows and window area.
heat shrink plastic on most of them
80% mid efficiency furnace and hot water tank.
Water temp kept low. We don't use a dishwasher.
Cold water clothes wash

Thermostat set at 66f (19c) all day and evening.
Set at 61f (16c) on average at night. It's set at 60f but other fingers bump it up till I reset it.

Dec 16 to Jan 4, (30 days) 630 m3 (636m3 adjusted)
Cost adjustment: $11.00CR
Total new gas charges: $179.47
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Dec 9 to Jan 10: (33 days) 389m3 estimated
Jan 11 to Feb 9: (30 days) 262m3

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