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How to prevent seller from block EMEI after I buy his phone?

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How to prevent seller from block EMEI after I buy his phone?

I have read that even if you buy a phone with a clean EMEI the seller can still block the EMEI after he has sold the phone. Is that true?

Is there any way to prevent this?
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There is no way to. Even with a proper contract between the buyer and the seller. It is difficult to get a carrier to unblock a phone since its essentially your word against theirs.
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Best defense is to buy from a reputable seller. The only bullet proof solution is buy new.
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im looking at buying a g4 so im selling my iPhone 5

I tell everyone im willing to meet at a telus store so they can scan it to verify its clean and then register the phone themselves

you think the stores would have some kind of 'virtual contract' where the buyer, seller and store employee(as a witness) signs a digital pad saying the phone was sold in a legit transaction
and the seller voids his chance of calling/blocking emei once that contract is signed
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How many of these thread are we gonna have?

Do a search, it's really not that hard at all.
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E2EK1EL, I did a search before I posted but only found threads that talk about phones that have been blocked by the carrier. What I would like to know is how to prevent the seller from blocking the phone after I bought it.

If this thread annoys you, please just ignore it.
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Denis54 wrote: E2EK1EL, I did a search before I posted but only found threads that talk about phones that have been blocked by the carrier. What I would like to know is how to prevent the seller from blocking the phone after I bought it.

If this thread annoys you, please just ignore it.
Those threads should have told you that there is NO way to prevent it from happening.
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hvwozq wrote: Those threads should have told you that there is NO way to prevent it from happening.

BINGO, hvwozq is 10000% correct about it and there's no need for another thread that's not gonna change anything at all.


RFD is so beyond clogged with the same "preventing IMEI blacklisting" threads over and over and over again, it's been covered for almost 3 years now and we're gonna see another of these threads within 1 week.
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The only "safe" way is to get the carrier to take the IMEI off their database, even then, there have still been cases where carriers blacklist anyways.
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The only real thing you can do is trust that he won't. There is really no protection against used iPhones in the first place, that is why consumers go to the store to go on contract with their phones is because they either have an in-house warranty or they have a warranty with the carrier.

You can either buy from a reputable seller or you can buy from a non-trustworthy seller and say goodbye to a phone and name it paperweight.

I haven't read this whole post but just to clarify: If the seller wants to blacklist the iPhone, he can call in to the carrier by dialing 611 from his phone, say he lost his previous phone, give the IMEI to the carrier and the carrier will block the phone from accessing the network and only the owner can successfully unblock the blacklisted phone from this particular network.
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will888 wrote: Best defense is to buy from a reputable seller. The only bullet proof solution is buy new.
I learn it the hard way that it is hardly foolproof at all. I bought a phone from Windmobile 3 years ago. All along I have owned it. And it was mysteriously blacklisted by Rogers for around a month. (I have had zero dealing with Rogers at all)
E2EK1EL wrote: BINGO, hvwozq is 10000% correct about it and there's no need for another thread that's not gonna change anything at all.


RFD is so beyond clogged with the same "preventing IMEI blacklisting" threads over and over and over again, it's been covered for almost 3 years now and we're gonna see another of these threads within 1 week.
The whole purpose of the blacklist body is to deter people from buying used phone. Basically the used phone market is dead as dead duck. We should raise this repeatedly
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If you pay someone a good amount for their iPhone, why would they blacklist it after the fact? Do these shady sellers really have anything to gain?
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Said212 wrote: If you pay someone a good amount for their iPhone, why would they blacklist it after the fact? Do these shady sellers really have anything to gain?
a brand new phone, using the insurance scam, or they just stop paying their mobile bill and the phone gets blacklisted
Problem is the phone you are buying second hand may have multiple previous owners, and any of them could have the phone attached to their account. So the person you buy the phone may not black list it but someone who previously owned the phone may stop paying the monthly service fee and boom the phone goes on the black list.
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buy from a reputable dealer (store). Saving an extra $1-200 is not worth it.
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Said212 wrote: If you pay someone a good amount for their iPhone, why would they blacklist it after the fact? Do these shady sellers really have anything to gain?
They do gain. Typically they buy from a carrier and sign a long expensive contract. Then they have found that it is too costly every month. It is possible that circumstance changes (say job loss). It is the carrier that reports the loss.
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Let us look at the problem from different perspectives
1. For the owners - the resale value of your phone drops like a stone; if he loses $1000 there is no recourse to recover anyway ; you can only give the phone to your friend/relatives; thief of the phone can still sell the phone away from N America; no reason that the rights of the owner should be diminished at all
2.For the carrier - big advantage that all used cell market is dead; big advantage to sell expensive monthly package(deceptive marketing); carrier can screw up the credit of the defaulting owner who skipped out of long monthly package;
3. For the buyers - no protection against unjustified blacklisting which is wantonly administered
4. Cellular reseller shops - dead
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jordanr19871 wrote: im looking at buying a g4 so im selling my iPhone 5

I tell everyone im willing to meet at a telus store so they can scan it to verify its clean and then register the phone themselves

you think the stores would have some kind of 'virtual contract' where the buyer, seller and store employee(as a witness) signs a digital pad saying the phone was sold in a legit transaction
and the seller voids his chance of calling/blocking emei once that contract is signed
why would the stores want to do such a thing? they take on the administration and assume the liability and costs of doing the transaction and being a facilitator but get zero income from it.
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LandKing wrote: why would the stores want to do such a thing? they take on the administration and assume the liability and costs of doing the transaction and being a facilitator but get zero income from it.
They should not. That is why there is little protection for buyer of used cellular phone.
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danieltoronto wrote: I learn it the hard way that it is hardly foolproof at all. I bought a phone from Windmobile 3 years ago. All along I have owned it. And it was mysteriously blacklisted by Rogers for around a month. (I have had zero dealing with Rogers at all)



The whole purpose of the blacklist body is to deter people from buying used phone. Basically the used phone market is dead as dead duck. We should raise this repeatedly

It was deployed to prevent consumers from getting their phones stolen from all those crackheads "dash and grab" , but just like everything else in life you got evil ppl taking advantage of a good idea that had endless amount of loopholes for scams.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/stole ... -1.1873674


NYC Apple crimes are dropping 3% with the help of iOS 7 security features, the US IMEI blacklisting and the NYPD registration program that are actually on location during a iPhone launch.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/03/nyreg ... .html?_r=0



Why bother being a penny pinching cheap a$$ dealfinder on something that has a huge ratio of you losing $700 to save $200 within 3 months of your purchase? Logically that's the best deal of them all.
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E2EK1EL wrote: It was deployed to prevent consumers from getting their phones stolen from all those crackheads "dash and grab" , but just like everything else in life you got evil ppl taking advantage of a good idea that had endless amount of loopholes for scams. .
Here is the scam. I bet that the majority # of blacklisted phones are for the carrier penalizing the defaulting clients.
Thus there is no stats coming from the big carriers. Otherwise we know who get
the best deal out of this blacklisting set up which is a joke to consumers. It does not benefit the buyers as well as purchasers.
Phone snatchers (if any ) can sell stolen phones outside of N Am regardless.
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