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How were the Black Friday and Boxing Day sales last year on large TVs - 75" to 85"?

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Paigne wrote:
Aug 3rd, 2018 2:11 pm
I believe sony only release 900f this year, no 930/940 (at least i dont remember seeing either announced). That doesnt mean 940e wont be cleared out tho because it is a 2017 model and also the fact there wasnt a lot of actual stock to start with (not a high demand model, more so 75”). Plus due to upgrades in 900f, its close to 930/940 already meaning no real room for sony to release another model. At least not enough room to release something between x900f and z9f.

Also note there werent really any deals on z9d last year despite no z9e. Not really expecting z9d deals now either after z9f annouce because stock was from 2016 and there really likely isnt much stock.
That’s too bad. Interestingly though, rumour has it that US launch pricing for the Z9F will be just $500 more than the 940E. The 940E launched at US$5499 and now is CAD$5199 full retail. I wonder if that means the Z9F which may launch at US$5999, could be less than CAD$5000 street by 2019.

Mind you, I’d prefer to spend way less than that. Preferably $3000 to $3500 or less so I’d still be looking at the 900F or 940E.

BTW, Panasonic’s 65” TC65EZ950 OLED is $3999 now right at Panasonic’s store so it’s probably cheaper elsewhere in-store. I don’t want a 65” though.
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EugW wrote:
Aug 5th, 2018 8:31 am
That’s too bad. Interestingly though, rumour has it that US launch pricing for the Z9F will be just $500 more than the 940E. The 940E launched at US$5499 and now is CAD$5199 full retail. I wonder if that means the Z9F which may launch at US$5999, could be less than CAD$5000 street by 2019.

Mind you, I’d prefer to spend way less than that. Preferably $3000 to $3500 or less so I’d still be looking at the 900F or 940E.

BTW, Panasonic’s 65” TC65EZ950 OLED is $3999 now right at Panasonic’s store so it’s probably cheaper elsewhere in-store. I don’t want a 65” though.
Panasonic OLED are sourced from LGD so really its pointless to buy them unless its cheaper than LG since its pretty much the same panel with any minor changes (namely o/s, speakers, frame, etc). None of which really worth a $1300 or so difference vs LG 65” OLED and there is virtually no difference in picture quality.

The problem with 75” is its not mass produced like 65” so you will be stuck paying a premium until it becomes a mass produced size. LG does have a 77” this year (that other companies will source) but that wont likely be cheaper than 6k (msrp close 12k or so).
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EugW wrote:
Jul 28th, 2018 8:35 am
How were Black Friday and Boxing Week sales last year for TVs of this size and price class? Considering I still have a lot of bulb life left on my projector, I'm inclined to wait until next year, but if the price is right I may buy this year. I'm not keen on the 2nd tier brands like Vizio, but would consider it.
Unfortunately, last year's sale prices aren't a good indicator of what will happen this year. Inventories are different. Product ranges are different.

There is considerable luck in deal hunting. You have to stumble upon a good clearance price that's passed down from the manufacturer on a model that has been sitting unsold in inventory.
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Paigne wrote:
Aug 5th, 2018 11:50 am
Panasonic OLED are sourced from LGD so really its pointless to buy them unless its cheaper than LG since its pretty much the same panel with any minor changes (namely o/s, speakers, frame, etc). None of which really worth a $1300 or so difference vs LG 65” OLED and there is virtually no difference in picture quality.

The problem with 75” is its not mass produced like 65” so you will be stuck paying a premium until it becomes a mass produced size. LG does have a 77” this year (that other companies will source) but that wont likely be cheaper than 6k (msrp close 12k or so).
You can get an LG 65” OLED for $2700? Really? Where?
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Aug 5th, 2018 12:04 pm
Unfortunately, last year's sale prices aren't a good indicator of what will happen this year. Inventories are different. Product ranges are different.

There is considerable luck in deal hunting. You have to stumble upon a good clearance price that's passed down from the manufacturer on a model that has been sitting unsold in inventory.
Fair enough. I’m really just managing my expectations here.
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EugW wrote:
Aug 5th, 2018 1:37 pm
You can get an LG 65” OLED for $2700? Really? Where?
LG 65" OLED has been $2700 multiple times from Visions, BB, etc as unadvertised deals that RFDers got (some posted receipts). LD also had it as "in store" special that was pretty much every store @ $2700 (wasn't in flyers but was advertised in store so not much YMMV if you had a LD nearby). I saw this because its when i bought my 75 mu8000 early this year. The deal was posted on RFD and that's why i went to LD to see if i could get a deal for 75mu8000 (no interest in OLED). Also eBay as an advertised deal (10% off $3000) during black friday, boxing day, and probably a few more times during the year. Its also $2700 all the time at smaller/local stores and if you take a picture of those prices, you often can work out the same deal @ Visions (probably BB too). The Visions @ Toronto had it as an unadvertised deal @ $2700 a few times too i believe based on a vet RFDers who has sources with that stores and often knows deals about that store (advertises for them) without actually advertising it.

Basically officially i'm guessing LG isn't letting retailers advertise a price lower than $3000 but in store, you will see prices sometime lower than $3000 when its on sale for $3000. So retailers can't advertise it below $3000 but without a doubt they will sell it below that price if you know how to haggle or go at the right time/follow in store deals. 55" also has been $1800 during the same time periods (basically 10% off lowest advertised prices).
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Paigne wrote:
Aug 5th, 2018 4:27 pm
LG 65" OLED has been $2700 multiple times from Visions, BB, etc as unadvertised deals that RFDers got (some posted receipts). LD also had it as "in store" special that was pretty much every store @ $2700 (wasn't in flyers but was advertised in store so not much YMMV if you had a LD nearby). I saw this because its when i bought my 75 mu8000 early this year. The deal was posted on RFD and that's why i went to LD to see if i could get a deal for 75mu8000 (no interest in OLED). Also eBay as an advertised deal (10% off $3000) during black friday, boxing day, and probably a few more times during the year. Its also $2700 all the time at smaller/local stores and if you take a picture of those prices, you often can work out the same deal @ Visions (probably BB too). The Visions @ Toronto had it as an unadvertised deal @ $2700 a few times too i believe based on a vet RFDers who has sources with that stores and often knows deals about that store (advertises for them) without actually advertising it.

Basically officially i'm guessing LG isn't letting retailers advertise a price lower than $3000 but in store, you will see prices sometime lower than $3000 when its on sale for $3000. So retailers can't advertise it below $3000 but without a doubt they will sell it below that price if you know how to haggle or go at the right time/follow in store deals. 55" also has been $1800 during the same time periods (basically 10% off lowest advertised prices).
Awesome. That’s great to know. At $2700 for a 65” OLED I would definitely consider it.

I’ll have to check out Visions in-store. It’s unfortunate we can’t get those sorts of deals for the 77”.
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EugW wrote:
Aug 5th, 2018 5:56 pm
Awesome. That’s great to know. At $2700 for a 65” OLED I would definitely consider it.

I’ll have to check out Visions in-store. It’s unfortunate we can’t get those sorts of deals for the 77”.
Come to think of it, I believe Costco sells the B7 for about $2998 in-store, but that's with an extra 1 year of warranty. Online price is $3298 until August 24. Not sure if the price will change after that.

However, things are looking up on the 77" C8. MSRP on LG OLEDs dropped yesterday in the US, from US$8999 to US$7999, and furthermore, there have been massive street price drops in the 77", with sketchy sellers under $5000 and at least one case of a Best Buy customer getting the 77" with wall-mount, installation, and calibration for US$6100. Samsung lists it at full retail for $7999.
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Nope. Missed the Costco deal I guess. I went into the Scarborough Warden location and all they had was the C8 for $4997. No more B7. The B7 is on their website for $3298. Any GTA Costco still with units left over, less than $3000? BTW, I saw somewhere the price was until 8/24. What does it mean? Do they often change the price after that date? I can't seem to find the date anymore though.

I note that Top Choice Electronics at Amazon has them for $2969 new, with free shipping, fulfilled by Amazon. They have a shop in Woodbridge and one in Brampton. I'm not really keen on going that direction though (2nd tier retailer), esp. since 65" isn't even my preferred size. Too many compromises.
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EugW wrote:
Aug 8th, 2018 7:53 pm
Nope. Missed the Costco deal I guess. I went into the Scarborough Warden location and all they had was the C8 for $4997. No more B7. The B7 is on their website for $3298. Any GTA Costco still with units left over, less than $3000? BTW, I saw somewhere the price was until 8/24. What does it mean? Do they often change the price after that date? I can't seem to find the date anymore though.

I note that Top Choice Electronics at Amazon has them for $2969 new, with free shipping, fulfilled by Amazon. They have a shop in Woodbridge and one in Brampton. I'm not really keen on going that direction though (2nd tier retailer), esp. since 65" isn't even my preferred size. Too many compromises.
Costco can do stock check for you for all other warehouses in the area so if you want to buy it from them, you can ask for a stock check. Other stores will likely clear out 2017 models withon a month or two to make room for 2018 models so BB, Vision, etc might have clearance deals tho always ymmv and OLED will likely be the first to go during any clearance event (as in if BB has an open box event and you want an oled, you probably need to be lining up at opening).
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Paigne wrote:
Aug 8th, 2018 8:12 pm
Costco can do stock check for you for all other warehouses in the area so if you want to buy it from them, you can ask for a stock check. Other stores will likely clear out 2017 models withon a month or two to make room for 2018 models so BB, Vision, etc might have clearance deals tho always ymmv and OLED will likely be the first to go during any clearance event (as in if BB has an open box event and you want an oled, you probably need to be lining up at opening).
Went back to Costco. They said there is no stock of the B7 anywhere in the GTA. Closest are Barrie and Orillia, but the price is almost identical, at $3296.

2001 Audio Video was willing to sell the B7 65" for $2999 (new list $3299), and the 77 for $9999 (new list $11999).

Best Buy wasn't willing to go that low, with an offer of $3099.99 for the B7 and $3399.99 for the E7 (normally $3999.99). However, they said they're throw in another year of warranty plus ISF calibration, so I went with them for the B7. I have no use for the improved speakers of the E7. The only risk for me with the B7 is some people haven't been completely satisfied with the B7's stand, but otherwise the panels are identical AFAIK (apart from the aesthetics).
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The blacks on this LG B7P OLED are a revelation! Well, not really a revelation since I already knew that, but seeing those blacks in my own home is just damn impressive, at least compared to the projector. No, this TV isn't super, super bright, but it's still pretty damn bright, meaning that I can watch with lots of ambient light if so desired. The interface is also way more convenient and faster than Sony's Android OS. The out-of-the-box colours seem a bit off though, so I'm glad I got the ISF calibration.

BTW, according to my receipt, the price is just ~$2400, but then I'm paying another ~$400 for the 2nd year of warranty (which is an insane price for that), and ~$300 for calibration (which is also expensive). But it works out to the agreed upon $3100, so I'm happy with that.

Thanks everyone for all the help!
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Last year I ended up getting a 65" MU6300 for like $1099 at Costco. Was a ridiculous deal.

I'm hoping to score a larger size for the basement but I want the better model, either the 75" or 82" NU8000. Will depend on price, but I feel like neither of them will be significantly discounted.
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Dpack22 wrote:
Aug 10th, 2018 12:09 pm
Last year I ended up getting a 65" MU6300 for like $1099 at Costco. Was a ridiculous deal.

I'm hoping to score a larger size for the basement but I want the better model, either the 75" or 82" NU8000. Will depend on price, but I feel like neither of them will be significantly discounted.
82 nu8000 probably will hit $3000-$3500 come BF (somewhere in that range, educated guess so i could be wrong). 75” will probably be $1900-$2500 depending on how aggressive other brands are since Samsung is more likely to react to sales than initial given they are the brand to beat now. mu8000 was discounted pretty heavily last year at boxing day and superbowl (reaction to sony being aggressive on BF). 82mu8000 was advertised for $4000 on boxing day (and a few times after) for reference and sales rep @ visions said they actually had some stock (reading inbetween the lines, not moving as quickly as 75” and likely could get a small discount on top of $4000 if you are serious).

Of course if you are hoping for close to $1000, there is virtually no chance of that yet.
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Regarding the LG B7, here is the $2997.99 Costco pricing from November 2017:

costco-canada-lg-oled65b7p-65-smart-4k- ... 9-2143734/

I wonder what November 2018 will bring for the 2018 models. Note that apparently only the C8 and above have the new processor. The B8 does not have the new processor apparently so maybe that one will be the cheapest. I note that as of right now, Best Buy is selling the B8 for $3499.99 and the C8 for $3699.99. Costco has the C8 for $3697.99 right now. It was $4997.99 last week.

Note that I’ve now seen a Brampton eBayer selling the B7 for $2759.99 but I personally would not be comfortable buying such a high ticket item off eBay.

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