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I was charged full HST for prepared food under $4 today.

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  • Oct 11th, 2017 6:50 pm
[OP]
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Nov 8, 2010
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I was charged full HST for prepared food under $4 today.

Was this legal? Or is there something wrong with the restaurant's system?

Have attached a pic of the receipt.

I even spoke to the manager and politely asked him about it, and instead of being apologetic, he was adamant it was totally fine and that they have been doing it for years! I know it's a question of a few cents, but just curious what the laws state etc, and if there's any repercussions for the restaurant to have been doing this for years, and to god knows how many people?
I wouldn't care if the manager would at least acknowledge it's an issue, but his attitude was what annoyed me, and got me even more curious about it?
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[OP]
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I realized I hadn't mentioned this, but this was in Ontario. Mississauga, Ontario to be specific.
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Nov 21, 2011
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Oh the horror
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FreshCo wrote:
Sep 30th, 2017 9:25 pm
RIP OP's life savings.
It isn't about that. It's about the fact that they were insistent that they've been doing it for years and that they've been doing nothing wrong at all. That's what got to me. It's the principle of it and the attitude towards it, rather than the amount.
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Good point. They're making extra profit. Report them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comment ... n_ontario/

There is no provincial ST charged on any restaurant meal that is less than $4.00 making it effectively 5% as opposed to 13% what you pay if your bill crosses $4 threshold. I think it was a move to protect poor back in days when restaurant meals would have been available under $4. But in today's times when the food inflation has risen so much that you can barely get anything that can be qualified as a 'meal' for $4.
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sam123 wrote:
Sep 30th, 2017 9:44 pm
Good point. They're making extra profit. Report them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comment ... n_ontario/

There is no provincial ST charged on any restaurant meal that is less than $4.00 making it effectively 5% as opposed to 13% what you pay if your bill crosses $4 threshold. I think it was a move to protect poor back in days when restaurant meals would have been available under $4. But in today's times when the food inflation has risen so much that you can barely get anything that can be qualified as a 'meal' for $4.
How so?
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sam123 wrote:
Sep 30th, 2017 9:44 pm
Good point. They're making extra profit. Report them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comment ... n_ontario/

There is no provincial ST charged on any restaurant meal that is less than $4.00 making it effectively 5% as opposed to 13% what you pay if your bill crosses $4 threshold. I think it was a move to protect poor back in days when restaurant meals would have been available under $4. But in today's times when the food inflation has risen so much that you can barely get anything that can be qualified as a 'meal' for $4.
The post above yours answered the question. Coffee alone isn't a meal. 13% is correct. There is nothing to report.
Last edited by Ojam on Sep 30th, 2017 9:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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I wish I cared enough to be as vigilant as some of you guys. I have no idea what tax should be applied to what food items lol. Is there an easy-to-read guide somewhere?
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Ojam wrote:
Sep 30th, 2017 9:54 pm
The post above yours answered the question. Coffee alone isn't a meal. 13% is correct. There is nothing to report.
Incorrect. Meals is a broad term and includes coffee:

The following goods are qualifying prepared food and beverages for purposes of the rebate:

food or beverages heated for consumption;
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manutdcanada wrote:
Sep 30th, 2017 9:49 pm
How so?
Its not illegal for the restaurant to collect the full HST; it then becomes your job to file form GST189 to receive the rebate. I would be interested to see if you receive a direct deposit for the few cents.
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#FirstWorldProblems

WOULD SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
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Mar 28, 2011
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Let's say it was a huge fast food restaurant with hundreds of locations that did this, say even Timmies that collects extra 8% on every coffee

You guys wouldn't care?

I agree with OP its the principle that they are not following the tax rules be it one mom and pop shop or a multi billion dollar fast food company
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Kasakato wrote:
Sep 30th, 2017 10:50 pm
Incorrect. Meals is a broad term and includes coffee:

The following goods are qualifying prepared food and beverages for purposes of the rebate:

food or beverages heated for consumption;
McDonald's charges full hst on pop too

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