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joepoonie wrote:
Feb 3rd, 2013 8:00 pm
Dude, I hate to say, but your lawsuit will fail as poedua has noted if you don't have realistic expectations. What are your expectations on bringing a lawsuit? A lawsuit isn't going to help you get better. Only being and thinking positive will help you get better.

I can tell you that in all honestly you'll probably be fighting for a few years just to get a few grand. Hardly worth the stress when you could harness that same stress energy in getting better, quicker.
First and foremost I want to / try to get better. Money can buy a lot of things but not health. My concern now is that this will effect me and therefore my family for years to come. I don't expect this to play out in a couple months, like you said probably not for atleast couple years but I'd like to think time is on my side.
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kev604 wrote:
Feb 4th, 2013 2:56 am
First and foremost I want to / try to get better. Money can buy a lot of things but not health. My concern now is that this will effect me and therefore my family for years to come. I don't expect this to play out in a couple months, like you said probably not for atleast couple years but I'd like to think time is on my side.
No prob. It's just that I know everyone immediately thinks that they'd get some large payout when in reality, you get pennies on the dollar of what you expect. I'm sure your kids and your wife would rather want the old you back than the few grand they might get in a settlement.
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kev604 wrote:
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First and foremost I want to / try to get better. Money can buy a lot of things but not health. My concern now is that this will effect me and therefore my family for years to come. I don't expect this to play out in a couple months, like you said probably not for atleast couple years but I'd like to think time is on my side.
Then again, it's only been a couple of weeks, so hopefully it's just as likely most if not all of your symptoms will disappear ( just as it did for my daughter ...8 weeks post accident ) and any thoughts of legal action won't even be on your radar any longer.
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I suggest you concentrate your efforts on getting appropriate treatment and getting better rather than worrying about lawsuits and long term effects "over the years".

Worrying won't help your psychological well being.
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Feb 4th, 2013 9:59 am
I suggest you concentrate your efforts on getting appropriate treatment and getting better rather than worrying about lawsuits and long term effects "over the years".

Worrying won't help your psychological well being.
I've started physiotherapy last week. ICBC has approved to pay for the first 12 sessions which I doubt will be enough. Looks like something else I'll have to fight for.
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I've started physiotherapy last week. ICBC has approved to pay for the first 12 sessions which I doubt will be enough. Looks like something else I'll have to fight for.
I'd cross that bridge if and when you get to it.

You may find that 12 sessions is more than sufficient. It's been my experience, that it's having adequate time between physiotherapy sessions to allow your body to leverage those sessions to help it heal naturally is just as important as the physiotherapy sessions themselves.

Don't get too far ahead of yourself.
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Healing vibes fellow RFDer. I am in a similar situation, but about 2 years ahead of you in the process. I was rear ended and crashed like an accordion (Rear impact pushed my car into the SUV in front at 80-90kmh). So hard that my rear bumper disappeared a foot into the body of the car. Now that you have a lawyer let him/her do their job. You just take care of yourself and make sure you take all your treatments seriously and work towards recovery.


ICBC is supposed be a "neutral" party for both sides. But they will ALWAYS look out for themselves first and foremost. Keep us updated on the how things go.
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kev604 wrote:
Feb 4th, 2013 11:08 am
I've started physiotherapy last week. ICBC has approved to pay for the first 12 sessions which I doubt will be enough. Looks like something else I'll have to fight for.
way to keep a positive outlook. :o

12 sessions based on 3 x week is a month of treatment,...why would they approve longer than that?
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Feb 4th, 2013 11:23 am
I'd cross that bridge if and when you get to it.

You may find that 12 sessions is more than sufficient. It's been my experience, that it's having adequate time between physiotherapy sessions to allow your body to leverage those sessions to help it heal naturally is just as important as the physiotherapy sessions themselves.

Don't get too far ahead of yourself.
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Good luck, I was in a bad accident this summer with my girlfriend. All I can do is thank god we're alright. I get chills thinking about if things were a split second sooner (I would have killed the other driver) or a second later (they would have killed my girlfriend). Other driver ran through an intersection, speeding, I had 100% right of way but the driver was naive, underage and driving for thrills with young friends. The injuries were really bad. I heard from numerous people we'd have no luck with a lawyer since no bones were broken and whiplash is hard to prove.

We were sent for "free" physio, but I soon got the impression these clinics are somewhat in the pocket of the insurance companies and ultimately have their interests a little more at heart then their clients. Thats a bold claim I know, but think of how real estate agents will continually use the same home inspectors that give them ..ahem.. favorable home inspections, you start to realize.

Physio does help a bit I'm sure, I did eventually recover, and my girlfriends flareups are only rare these days, but they can still be bad enough (once every few months or less) that she NEEDS a day off work. Sometimes they get pissed off and dont understand. Your work life may very well be affected long term, especially if you do anything remotely physical as these injuries are easy to re-flare up again.

I was naive, taking one of the physio clinics recommended by my insurance company. These places are making a lot of money, have very comfortable clinics and where do you think the money flows from? Insurance and big business, because ultimately its cheaper for them vs settling lawsuits.



edit- I think ultimately your physiotherapist can easily extend your sessions at their discretion to cost of your insurance company, and they won't mind. They are trying to manage your pain levels, then document them (even though it may be short term) so they have written evidence, your words actually, that you are "recovered" to cover their ***** when you go to court. Physio helps in the meantime, but you suffer an injury like bad whiplash, light massages, warming it up, stretching gently make it feel better for some time. They document that. Proof you are "better", dont need a lawsuit. Then you take out the garbage a few weeks later and "pull" something and you are bed ridden for 2 days and cant go to work. Be careful. I sound paranoid but I have been through it, I wager most people here have not, so only trust those who have been through what you have been through. Contact a lawyer, I should have.
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Here in Ontario only 1 in 100 go to court, Most settle before. I'm going through the process as-well, I had a truck cross the line and hit me then the 2 cars behind me hit me. Was air-lifted to trauma hospital spent night on life support then 15 days in hospital with a broken index finger, broken L5 vertebra, Damaged lungs and spleen also had my large intestines removed from my small intestines leaving me with a Ileostomy( I poop in a bag attached to stomach)

I don't want to get my hopes up, But I do feel I should get something for my pain and suffering.
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I went in to see a lawyer today. There fees are 25% take. The law firm fronts any cost for court fees, medical reports, medical exams but will charge interest at 8% APR, these cost are recoverable when there is settlement. ICBC will deal with the lawyer directly now. Any medication, physiotherapy that requires reimbursement I forward this to the lawyer now.
The fees are quite a bit but personally well worth it for me. Allows me to get my mind off of things, take things one day at a time and get back to as close as what I was before the accident.
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kev604 wrote:
Feb 4th, 2013 4:24 pm
I went in to see a lawyer today. There fees are 25% take. The law firm fronts any cost for court fees, medical reports, medical exams but will charge interest at 8% APR, these cost are recoverable when there is settlement. ICBC will deal with the lawyer directly now. Any medication, physiotherapy that requires reimbursement I forward this to the lawyer now.
The fees are quite a bit but personally well worth it for me. Allows me to get my mind off of things, take things one day at a time and get back to as close as what I was before the accident.
Doesn't the lawyer recover his fees in the money he collects from ICBC? ie. what you deserve + legal fees.
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kev604 wrote:
Feb 4th, 2013 4:24 pm
I went in to see a lawyer today. There fees are 25% take. The law firm fronts any cost for court fees, medical reports, medical exams but will charge interest at 8% APR, these cost are recoverable when there is settlement. ICBC will deal with the lawyer directly now. Any medication, physiotherapy that requires reimbursement I forward this to the lawyer now.
The fees are quite a bit but personally well worth it for me. Allows me to get my mind off of things, take things one day at a time and get back to as close as what I was before the accident.
My lawyer is the same 25% of my cut, His personal fees are paid from the at fault drivers insurer.. So he gets more like 33% in total. All my medical and at home care plus wage replacement is payed by my insurance (no fault)
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kev604 wrote:
Feb 4th, 2013 11:08 am
I've started physiotherapy last week. ICBC has approved to pay for the first 12 sessions which I doubt will be enough. Looks like something else I'll have to fight for.
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Feb 4th, 2013 2:07 pm
We were sent for "free" physio, but I soon got the impression these clinics are somewhat in the pocket of the insurance companies and ultimately have their interests a little more at heart then their clients. Thats a bold claim I know, but think of how real estate agents will continually use the same home inspectors that give them ..ahem.. favorable home inspections, you start to realize.

Physio does help a bit I'm sure, I did eventually recover, and my girlfriends flareups are only rare these days, but they can still be bad enough (once every few months or less) that she NEEDS a day off work. Sometimes they get pissed off and dont understand. Your work life may very well be affected long term, especially if you do anything remotely physical as these injuries are easy to re-flare up again.

I was naive, taking one of the physio clinics recommended by my insurance company. These places are making a lot of money, have very comfortable clinics and where do you think the money flows from? Insurance and big business, because ultimately its cheaper for them vs settling lawsuits.

edit- I think ultimately your physiotherapist can easily extend your sessions at their discretion to cost of your insurance company, and they won't mind. They are trying to manage your pain levels, then document them (even though it may be short term) so they have written evidence, your words actually, that you are "recovered" to cover their ***** when you go to court. Physio helps in the meantime, but you suffer an injury like bad whiplash, light massages, warming it up, stretching gently make it feel better for some time. They document that. Proof you are "better", dont need a lawsuit. Then you take out the garbage a few weeks later and "pull" something and you are bed ridden for 2 days and cant go to work. Be careful. I sound paranoid but I have been through it, I wager most people here have not, so only trust those who have been through what you have been through. Contact a lawyer, I should have.
12 is the normal course of action. If your GP & Physio thinks you need more, then you can submit those papers and request for more. After another set of sessions, if your GP & Physio thinks you need more again, then once again submit.

ICBC won't provide you an unlimited bucket of Physio sessions, as it will open up the system to complete abuse.

ICBC will usually not go against the advice of your GP/specialist, but they may request to get a 2nd evaluation by another GP/specialist.

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mofesto wrote:
Feb 4th, 2013 4:42 pm
Doesn't the lawyer recover his fees in the money he collects from ICBC? ie. what you deserve + legal fees.
Lawyer takes 25% of what I deserve. Court fees, medical exam, medical report fees are claimed separately and will all go back to the law firm that fronted the costs.

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