Illegal links not allowed.

[dealforme]

We do allow discussions here about the software Bit Torrent and other P2P packages.

But torrent links and any other links to warez is not allowed here.

[bembem]

Originally posted by dealforme@Feb 13 2004, 08:44 AM
We do allow discussions here about the software Bit Torrent and other P2P packages.

But torrent links and any other links to warez is not allowed here.

Fair enough and end of discussion.

This is a private forum, and those are the rules :P

The opinion below is not directed at anyone. Just my opinion on the matter. Just healthy discussion.

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Is it not hypocritical to ban Bit Torrent because it MAY contain some illegal software? It's great for dl'ing linux distros is it not?
Should you not ban the following:
MP3's : because most are illegal
ISO's : because most are illegal
google.com : because you can find illegal software / cracks
newsgroups : because it has porn and illegal software
the internet : because you can find kiddie porn and cracks
- - -
You can close your eyes -_- but it'll still be there when you open them.
This is almost like the CD/media levy that the government put on. Just cause the *media* can be used for illegal purposes, they chose to impose a fine/fee/levy for everyone. Everyone agrees that it is stupid, but yet it happens. Odd huh?
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[Carnage]

There's no problem discussing BT,etc.

But the site you linked to(which I won't mention) is one giant warehouse of pirated links.

Yeah, not everything on that site is illegal. But probably 90% of it is.

We can talk all we want about these programs. But it's not encouraged to post links directly to easy access sites for warez/pirated software,etc.

[Cough]

Half the avatars are probably illegal due to copyright infringement. .....

[Carnage]

Originally posted by Cough@Feb 13 2004, 01:29 PM
Half the avatars are probably illegal due to copyright infringement. .....

But there's a big difference between a copyrighted image, and downloading pirated movies/software.

The mods aren't trying to be jerks or anything. They're just covering their own tails. If they allowed those kind of links they could take flak for allowing it.

Plenty of sites have been taken down in the past for allowing links to pirate sites,etc.

[bembem]

Originally posted by Carnage+Feb 13 2004, 10:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Carnage @ Feb 13 2004, 10:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Cough@Feb 13 2004, 01:29 PM
Half the avatars are probably illegal due to copyright infringement. .....

But there's a big difference between a copyrighted image, and downloading pirated movies/software.

The mods aren't trying to be jerks or anything. They're just covering their own tails. If they allowed those kind of links they could take flak for allowing it.

Plenty of sites have been taken down in the past for allowing links to pirate sites,etc. [/b][/quote]
True... and fair enough.

But for most people, censorship is a bad thing

[rilles]

I downloaded the latest version of Firefox(bird) via bit torrent, and many ISO are legal (Linux, memtest86..).

So then the question can be asked: is it allowed to post BT/edonkey links to freeware/free-to-download software? (long as it it legal to do so).

[Carnage]

Originally posted by rilles@Feb 13 2004, 02:11 PM
I downloaded the latest version of Firefox(bird) via bit torrent, and many ISO are legal (Linux, memtest86..).

So then the question can be asked: is it allowed to post BT/edonkey links to freeware/free-to-download software? (long as it it legal to do so).

I would assume that posting a BT link for somethign like Firefox or Linux would be fine.

It's only an issue when it's a link to a site which also has alot of pirated software.

It's kind of a grey area I guess. It's like a front to an organized crime ring or something. The business front might be legal, but combining it with the backend makes the whole package illegal. That's probably the best metaphor I can come up with.

[rilles]

Originally posted by Carnage+Feb 13 2004, 02:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Carnage @ Feb 13 2004, 02:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--rilles@Feb 13 2004, 02:11 PM
I downloaded the latest version of Firefox(bird) via bit torrent, and many ISO are legal (Linux, memtest86..).

So then the question can be asked: is it allowed to post BT/edonkey links to freeware/free-to-download software? (long as it it legal to do so).

I would assume that posting a BT link for somethign like Firefox or Linux would be fine.

It's only an issue when it's a link to a site which also has alot of pirated software.

It's kind of a grey area I guess. It's like a front to an organized crime ring or something. The business front might be legal, but combining it with the backend makes the whole package illegal. That's probably the best metaphor I can come up with. [/b][/quote]
But if a mod stated "posted a link to free/legal software is ok", it would clear that up.

Many things are knowingly/unknowingly a front to crime, just gotta keep an eye out to make sure the bad does not bubble up.

[dealforme]

Originally posted by rilles@Feb 13 2004, 02:16 PM
But if a mod stated "posted a link to free/legal software is ok", it would clear that up.

Many things are knowingly/unknowingly a front to crime, just gotta keep an eye out to make sure the bad does not bubble up.

I don't have a problem of free distros or legal software but unfortunately the sites that contain the link may also contain the illegal/warez links as well.

I'll leave it to you to use your best judgement but we're going to be looking at the link as well and removing if necessary.

[malaca]

This site has the most links to pirated stuff in the world.

This is another popular pirate site.

Note: this is a JOKE, don't ban me yet. But remember behind most stories there's a bit of truth.

[GreenWeenie]

Originally posted by malaca@Mar 9 2004, 02:54 PM
This site has the most links to pirated stuff in the world.

This is another popular pirate site.

Note: this is a JOKE, don't ban me yet.&nbsp; But remember behind most stories there's a bit of truth.

Even Google has to censor their results.

Do a google search on "Kazaa Lite" and then check out the message at the bottom of the results page.

In response to a complaint we received under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 3 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint for these removed results.

http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/not...gi?NoticeID=861
Link to complaint google rec'd

[malaca]

Originally posted by GreenWeenie@Mar 9 2004, 03:11 PM
Even Google has to censor their results.*

Do a google search on "Kazaa Lite" and then check out the message at the bottom of the results page.

In response to a complaint we received under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 3 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint for these removed results.

http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/not...gi?NoticeID=861

I guess we could send a letter to Google to remind them that the DMCA is an american law that applies only in the USA so they can leave google.ca alone.

If US law would apply here, then nobody would be able to travel to Cuba.

[Gordon]

lmao google.com is where everyone finds there warez and cracks and kiddy porn! O i also didnt mention GAMEs! ISO!

I bet you AT LEAST have a few burned games or software in your house so thats illegal!

[Vin Diesel]

Originally posted by GreenWeenie@Mar 9 2004, 03:11 PM
Even Google has to censor their results.

Do a google search on "Kazaa Lite" and then check out the message at the bottom of the results page.

If this is true then I have lost all my respect for Google, the internet should be a realm of TRUE free-speech and should not be tainted by politics, morals or bias. NOTE: I'm talking about a search engine like Google which we all depend from not RDF which is a private site.