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Interesting article about Mobil 1 and a Camry 2.5L Engine

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Interesting article about Mobil 1 and a Camry 2.5L Engine

I was looking at some oil info on the Mobil 1 site and came across the 500,000-mile challenge. It goes to show you that using a good oil with proper oil changes goes a long way. I admit the test is not very realistic but it makes for good reading: https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the ... -challenge
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Glad you liked the information I posted on another thread.

Thumbs up to you.
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hightech wrote:
Jan 31st, 2019 10:54 am
My apologies as I didn't see your post there.
No worries. I'm amazed how the engine held up after 300k (or was it 500k miles!). :)

I actually use that high mileage oil on my Civic and no more oil consumption.

The motor oil actually deserves this new thread.
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Note that the oil change interval is 10,000 miles (16,000 km), not the 8,000 km that my Toyota dealership would have me follow. My 2009 Venza with an I4 2.7 L came with dino oil and an 8,000 km (5,000 mile) recommendation. The following year the same model came with Toyota's 0-20W semi-synthetic with a 10,000 mile interval recommendation. I changed to the 0-20W in 2010, but my dealership insisted on the 8,000 km interval, which I begrudgingly followed until the extended warranty was finished. We're now at 160,000 miles and it still runs like new. Synthetic or semi-synthetic is much better for cold starts as the viscosity doesn't change with the cold weather.
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alanbrenton wrote:
Jan 31st, 2019 11:27 am
Why not?

What are you eyeing?
Nothing at the moment. I just look at my needs and if the current vehicle meets them. I had a 2002 Camry LE V6 running Mobil 1 5W30 from day 1. I sold it after 12 years and 216K. I was impressed by how clean the Engine was and so was my Mechanic.
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Nothing at the moment. I just look at my needs and if the current vehicle meets them. I had a 2002 Camry LE V6 running Mobil 1 5W30 from day 1. I sold it after 12 years and 216K. I was impressed by how clean the Engine was and so was my Mechanic.
I wouldn't even want to see how my 02 Civic's engine interior looks like but it's definitely built like a tank after 245k of our own driving over 15 years (267k now). Only switched to this Mobil 1 high mileage synthetic four years ago and was pleasantly surprised.

At 12.5-14 km per liter, I can't go wrong running this bastard of a vehicle. There's no compromise at all except the lack of ABS/stability control (heat, a/c, defroster, washer, driver, everything works fine). People shun my vehicle, of course when I'm driving with the right of way.
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Note that the oil change interval is 10,000 miles (16,000 km), not the 8,000 km that my Toyota dealership would have me follow. My 2009 Venza with an I4 2.7 L came with dino oil and an 8,000 km (5,000 mile) recommendation. The following year the same model came with Toyota's 0-20W semi-synthetic with a 10,000 mile interval recommendation. I changed to the 0-20W in 2010, but my dealership insisted on the 8,000 km interval, which I begrudgingly followed until the extended warranty was finished. We're now at 160,000 miles and it still runs like new. Synthetic or semi-synthetic is much better for cold starts as the viscosity doesn't change with the cold weather.
Having used Synthetics for over 17 years, I too was surprised at how quickly the cars started in the cold. I also find that accelerating when cold is much improved and you don't feel like you are pulling something. One of the worst things one can do is start the car and just head on the highway running regular dino oil. That will really stress the engine.
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Having used Synthetics for over 17 years, I too was surprised at how quickly the cars started in the cold. I also find that accelerating when cold is much improved and you don't feel like you are pulling something. One of the worst things one can do is start the car and just head on the highway running regular dino oil. That will really stress the engine.
even if RPM is kept low and with smooth and slow acceleration?
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alanbrenton wrote:
Jan 31st, 2019 1:01 pm
even if RPM is kept low and with smooth and slow acceleration?
I would just let the car warm up for a minute or two to get the oil flowing and then continue in the manner you mentioned. The oil tends to be pooled on the bottom of the engine and needs viscosity and warmth to properly circulate.
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Hi,

Interesting article. I find it very strange that so many websites recommend changing synthetic oil at the same intervals as you would with dino oil. Seems like the car companies have everyone believing them instead of the synthetic oil manufactures. alanbrenton/hightech/smacd, what are the oil change intervals you've been using with synthetic oil? Do you have to top up between oil changes?
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Jan 31st, 2019 1:37 pm
Hi,

Interesting article. I find it very strange that so many websites recommend changing synthetic oil at the same intervals as you would with dino oil. Seems like the car companies have everyone believing them instead of the synthetic oil manufactures. alanbrenton/hightech/smacd, what are the oil change intervals you've been using with synthetic oil? Do you have to top up between oil changes?
11 Accord - between 13-15k km (based on Honda maintenance minder), mostly highway driven. I haven't checked in eight years for any excessive oil consumption - used Honda bulk synthetic oil at the dealership until last one last year --> https://mobiloil.com/en/motor-oils/mobi ... erformance

16 RAV4H - dealership serviced, OCI every 16k km recommended by Toyota 0w20

02 Civic - no maintenance done except OCI, didn't change oil early winter but no excessive oil consumption when I checked a few weeks ago. More like 6-8k each year but lots of short distance driving and jack rabbit starts (easy on the gas pedal but take off right after engine starts) 0w20 or 30 depending on which one is on sale. I think 30 is better for any engine with excessive oil consumption.
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smacd wrote:
Jan 31st, 2019 12:53 pm
Note that the oil change interval is 10,000 miles (16,000 km), not the 8,000 km that my Toyota dealership would have me follow. .
I believe it's because
- the test is in fact not that stressful for modern gas engines (it'd be different if the test was done more like in real life: extended idling, stop and go traffic, up hill under load etc)
- tester want to see accelerated test results
- in U.S. recommended oil change interval is 10,000 miles under normal conditions
How Often Should You Change Synthetic Oil?
Standard oil change intervals are typically listed at 5,000 miles or 6 months to ensure peak performance. Toyota models that are required to use 0W-20 synthetic oil extend that interval to 10,000 miles or 12 months
http://www.whiterivertoyota.com/blog/to ... intervals/

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