Thread: Iran's letter to George W. Bush
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May 9th, 2006 07:53 PM
#1
Jr. Member
Iran's letter to George W. Bush
Full text of the letter in English is available at Iranian President's web site:
http://www.president.ir/eng/ahmadine...index-e.htm#b3
The original PDF image is here for those interested:
http://hosted.ap.org/specials/intera...inejad0509.pdf
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from Wikinews:
(added May 10, 2006)
On May 8, 2006, Ahmadinejad sent a direct secret letter to United States President George Bush to propose "new ways" to end Iran's nuclear dispute. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley both had reviewed the letter and considered it to be a broad, historical look at the U.S.-Iranian relationship. That was the first direct contact between both goverments since April 9, 1980.
The letter has achieved more positive press coverage than President Ahmadinejad has ever gotten. With Western powers unable to reach agreement about a United Nations Security Council resolution on Iran's nuclear program, online commentators says Ahmadinejad's 18-page letter (originally in Persian) promotes the idea that Iran is open to compromise at a time when the rest of the world is divided.
The letter, the first written communication between the leaders of the two countries in 27 years, criticizes Bush for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, detainee abuse in U.S.-run facilities in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, and for his support of Israel.
The letter received various reactions. "Regardless of the content of Ahmadinejad's letter ... such a communication could lead the two sides to direct talks," the centrist Shargh newspaper said somewhat optimistically. "Whatever its content, the letter crosses the red line of non-negotiation. If Ahmadinejad's letter gets a positive response, a new chapter could open and then we could say it is possible to talk and get results in the shadow of war," it said.
Some analysts, compared the letter with the historical letter by Ayatollah Khomeini to Gorbachev, where he predicted the collapse of communist regime.
Last edited by javaprogrammer; May 10th, 2006 at 12:34 PM.
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May 9th, 2006 07:56 PM
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tl;dr
anyone want to sum it up?
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May 9th, 2006 07:57 PM
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Know that's civilized. Too bad Bush doesn't know how to write.
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May 9th, 2006 07:59 PM
#4
It kinda lists everything the USA has done wrong in the last 6 years. All in 18 single spaced pages
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May 9th, 2006 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
ElChico
It kinda lists everything the USA has done wrong in the last 6 years. All in 18 single spaced pages

they can fit that on 18 single spaced pages?! Must be size 8 font... ZING!
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May 9th, 2006 08:58 PM
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"Can one be a follower of Jesus Christ, the great messenger of God, feel obliged to respect human rights, present liberalism as a civilization model, announce one's opposition to the proliferation of nuclear weapons and WMDs, make "War on Terror" his slogan, and finally, work towards the establishment of a unified international community - a community in which Christ and the virtuous of the Earth will one day govern, but at the same time, have countries attacked. The lives, reputations and possessions of people destroyed and on the slight chance of the presence of a few criminals in a village, city, or convoy for example, the entire village, city, or convoy set ablaze. Or because of the possibility of the existence of WMDs in one country, it is occupied, around one hundred thousand people killed, its water sources, agriculture and industry destroyed, close to 180,000 foreign troops put on the ground, sanctity of private homes of citizens broken, and the country pushed back perhaps fifty years. At what price? Hundreds of billions of dollars spent from the treasury of one country and certain other countries and tens of thousands of young men and women - as occupation troops - put in harms way, taken away from family and loved ones, their hands stained with the blood of others, subjected to so much psychological pressure that everyday some commit suicide and those returning home suffer depression, become sickly and grapple with all sorts of ailments; while some are killed and their bodies handed back to their families."
Last edited by xKagex; May 9th, 2006 at 09:01 PM.
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May 9th, 2006 09:00 PM
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This leader of Iran doesn't sound too bad... maybe Harper took a queue from him and relabelled it "Stand Up For Canada."
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An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our Homeland. - Hitler or Bush?
Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it. -
Noam Chomsky
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May 9th, 2006 09:01 PM
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May 9th, 2006 09:01 PM
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ah thanks, typing that out was tiring
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May 9th, 2006 09:06 PM
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"Why is it that any technological and scientific achievement reached in the Middle East regions is translated into and portrayed as a threat to the Zionist regime? Is not scientific R&D one of the basic rights of nations.
You are familiar with history. Aside from the Middle Ages, in what other point in history has scientific and technical progress been a crime? Can the possibility of scientific achievements being utilised for military purposes be reason enough to oppose science and technology altogether? If such a supposition is true, then all scientific disciplines, including physics, chemistry, mathematics, medicine, engineering, etc. must be opposed."
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May 9th, 2006 10:27 PM
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3rd paragraph from the end - Liberalism has failed - I think he's right about that one.
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May 9th, 2006 10:33 PM
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Considering that the US constitution was founded upon Liberalism, and functioned quite well until about 40 years ago when the country turned towards a military industrial complex (despite Eisenhower's warning), I wouldn't necessarily agree with that argument.
The last part of the letter, when he basically suggests we all go back to Mosaic Law and fundamentals of monotheistic religions, has some merits, but in reality would cause more problems than it would solve.
The rest of the letter is great, and speaks to everything I believe but can't properly articulate. It boils down to either a society based on Fear or a society based on Love.
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May 9th, 2006 10:38 PM
#13

Originally Posted by
xKagex
It boils down to either a society based on Fear or a society based on Love.
Oh jeez, easy choice for the Bush regime then! 
"I'll take Fear for $3 billion, Alex!"
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An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our Homeland. - Hitler or Bush?
Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it. -
Noam Chomsky
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May 9th, 2006 11:27 PM
#14

Originally Posted by
xKagex
Considering that the US constitution was founded upon Liberalism, and functioned quite well until about 40 years ago when the country turned towards a military industrial complex (despite Eisenhower's warning), I wouldn't necessarily agree with that argument.
The last part of the letter, when he basically suggests we all go back to Mosaic Law and fundamentals of monotheistic religions, has some merits, but in reality would cause more problems than it would solve.
The rest of the letter is great, and speaks to everything I believe but can't properly articulate. It boils down to either a society based on Fear or a society based on Love.
How would describe the current status of Iranian society - in your view?
.......a society " based on Fear or a society based on Love ".........or something else altogether ?
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May 9th, 2006 11:27 PM
#15
I was expecting something quite different.
That was a pretty thought out letter.
Kinda scary near the end, but quite interesting.
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