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Israel and its IDF murders an innocent 14 yr old boy



He presented no danger.

These criminals are committing war crimes by the dozens and Canada and the idiot down south continue to condone this despicable behaviour.

Palestinians are tantamount to the indigenous people here whose land we appropriated.
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RiftOfChaos wrote:
Jul 14th, 2018 7:04 am


He presented no danger.

These criminals are committing war crimes by the dozens and Canada and the idiot down south continue to condone this despicable behaviour.

Palestinians are tantamount to the indigenous people here whose land we appropriated.
We condone far worse behaviors. We are not the police of the world and we are not responsible for the world, only our own citizens. Therefore our foreign policies should benefit us, not some foolish foreign boy.
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One guy was shot out of a group of others...so why was he shot and not the others? Could it be that he was climbing on the border fence and thenothers were not?
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silky28 wrote:
Jul 14th, 2018 10:43 am
One guy was shot out of a group of others...so why was he shot and not the others? Could it be that he was climbing on the border fence and thenothers were not?
And that's grounds for shooting? Are you serious? Have you ever lived in an open air prison?

This is just target practice for them.
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Archanfel wrote:
Jul 14th, 2018 9:27 am
We condone far worse behaviors. We are not the police of the world and we are not responsible for the world, only our own citizens. Therefore our foreign policies should benefit us, not some foolish foreign boy.
this insular and quite frankly selfish outlook doesn't bode well for anyone.
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Very sad that he was killed. But what was he doing trying to climb an international border fence? The Israelis take potential infiltrations very seriously due to what past border infiltrators have done inside Israel.
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RiftOfChaos wrote:
Jul 14th, 2018 2:24 pm
this insular and quite frankly selfish outlook doesn't bode well for anyone.
It bode well for Canada. Israel has been a reliable ally whereas Palestine has been producing nothing but violence and refugees.
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RiftOfChaos wrote:
Jul 14th, 2018 2:23 pm
And that's grounds for shooting? Are you serious? Have you ever lived in an open air prison?

This is just target practice for them.
I am pretty sure if you were climbing the wall of a prison or even somebody's fence, they would shoot you too.
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Archanfel wrote:
Jul 14th, 2018 9:27 am
We condone far worse behaviors. We are not the police of the world and we are not responsible for the world, only our own citizens.
Then why are we selling weapons to these people? Let them buy their own weapons with their own money, then they can shoot who they want.

And you'll have to explain to me why Israel is an ally of Canada. Are they a part of NATO? Are they a major trading partner? Are they helping us ressetle the thousands of refugees showing up at our border? Are they advocating for us and our trade interests to Trump? Are they fighting the tariffs on steel and aluminum? Did they send troops to fight in Afghanistan?
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Holy shit. I've been generally supportive (though not necessarily condoning) of Israel's actions but I cannot possibly justify that killing. The kid was shot for no other reason that he happened to climb a bit over a warning fence (not even the border fence itself).
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Did the kid throw rocks at the Israeli military?
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RiftOfChaos wrote:
Jul 14th, 2018 7:04 am
Palestinians are tantamount to the indigenous people here whose land we appropriated.
Wow, there's a false equivalency if I've ever seen one.

Are "the indigenous people here whose land we appropriated" conducting suicide bombings and launching rocket and mortar attacks on the rest of Canada?

Is Israel spending more money per capita on Palestinians than they do on Israelis like is the case in Canada with spending on the indigenous population?
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Nice try at fake news again with that title.

He clearly tried first to test the fence and then once he found a spot started to climb the small security fence they have separating the border.

If anything the video showed how much restrain is exercised. The IDF waited until the moment he tried to climb the border fence to shoot and defend the border.

also you first see 5-6 people at the beginning but pan out and thats 50 to 100 people in the field of the camera and if rotated, the camera would probably show several hundreds, maybe a thousand people.

So if they had done nothing and let him get over that small fence, the IDF would potentially have a thousand people climbing that fence or just entirely taking down that small fence and swarming into Israeli territory. And then what ? They would have an invasion of their homeland on their hands and would have no choice. They would have been shooting at a thousand people instead to defend the border, as is their mission.

By shooting one person and clearly stating that they mean business as dissuasion for anyone else of the thousand there who dare to imitate him, they avoided a much bigger confrontation.

It is actually job well done by the IDF forces in defusing a potentially bigger situation that could have taken many more lives.
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Archanfel wrote:
Jul 14th, 2018 3:27 pm
I am pretty sure if you were climbing the wall of a prison or even somebody's fence, they would shoot you too.
Can you provide evidence instead of conjecture?

There is zero evidence indicating that the little boy can get over the fence and even so, there are SEVERAL JUST AND HUMANE ways to deal with such a scenario instead of shooting him dead.
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Archanfel wrote:
Jul 14th, 2018 3:26 pm
It bode well for Canada. Israel has been a reliable ally whereas Palestine has been producing nothing but violence and refugees.
Israel has not been reliable because they are committing atrocities that they themselves were victims of.

Also why are they selling weapons to nefarious groups like Nazis?

https://www.haaretz.com/amp/opinion/rig ... ssion=true

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