Israeli terrorist kills four Palestinians in West Bank

[Marc7]

An Israeli Jew killed four people and wounded one other Wednesday afternoon when he opened fire on a group of Palestinians in the industrial area of the northern West Bank settlement of Shiloh.

The victims have been identified as Mohammed Mansour, 48, and Bassam Tauase, 30, both from the Nablus region; Halil Salah, 42, from Qalqilyah; and Osama Moussa Tawafsha, 33, from the village of Sanjil, not far from the West Bank town of Ramallah.

Asher Weisgan, a 38-year-old driver from Shvut Rahel in the West Bank, transported Palestinian workers to and from the industrial area daily.




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On Wednesday afternoon, he picked up the workers to take them home, and stopped on the way out to ask a security guard for a cup of water.

He then stole the guard's weapon, shot dead the two Palestinian workers in his car at the time, and then ran into a factory in the industrial area, where he killed another Palestinian worker outright and wounded two others.

One of the wounded died of his injuries at Hadassah University Hospital in Ein Kerem, Jerusalem. The fifth victim of the attack sustained moderate injuries.

Israeli security forces managed to overpower Weisgan and took him to Binyamin police station for questioning. Weisgan, who had not previously been known to police, refused to give investigators a motive for the attack.

Channel 1 television's news program, however, quoted Weisgan as saying that he had carried out the shooting in a bid to stop the disengagement from going ahead.

In the wake of the attacks, security forces made preparations for possible riots that could break out in Palestinian areas of the territories.

Military sources told Haaretz that the army expects prominent rabbis from West Bank settlements in the Shiloh area to issue an unequivocal statement condemning the attack.

The army pointed out that this is the second attack carried out by settlers from the area and the lack of condemnation from the rabbis is likely to endanger more innocent lives.

Palestinian Authority spokesman Saeb Erekat condemned the attack and urged the Israeli government to bring the perpetrator to justice immediately.

Hamas threatened to avenge the attack, the second by an Israeli Jew against Arabs in as many weeks.


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[Emancipated]

Do you have a comment on this?

It's a tragedy. This man should be shot and hanged.

[lip1978]

I had already posted about this disgusting act in another thread.

[Marc7]

this was expected with all the incitement from the settler movement. Funny how no one is condeming this incitement in the first place.

I guess it is clear that we have terrorism on the israili side alive and well. Question is why no one sees israel's state terrorism


the term "terrorism" means an activty that (i) involves a violent act or an act dangerous to human life, property, or infrastructure; and (ii) appears to be intended (A) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (B) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (C) toaffect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assasination, kidnapping, or hostage-taking


things that the israel gouv. routinely undertakes, wonder if we should freeze their assets and send them to guantanamo or bomb them into the stone age like saddam!

[Marc7]

[QUOTE=Emancipated]Do you have a comment on this?

It's a tragedy. This man should be shot and hanged.[/QUOTE]


if he is shot (non-lethaly) then hanged otherwise it would be redundant!

[Mr._Hankey]

[QUOTE]Do you have a comment on this?

It's a tragedy. This man should be shot and hanged.[/QUOTE]
When a jew kills arabs, it's a tragedy. When an arab kills jews, it's a thumbs up. [color=red]SNIP[/color].

[QUOTE]this was expected with all the incitement from the settler movement. Funny how no one is condeming this incitement in the first place.[/QUOTE]
The terrorist's family condemned the act and so did the settlers' council.

[QUOTE]things that the israel gouv. routinely undertakes, wonder if we should freeze their assets and send them to guantanamo or bomb them into the stone age like saddam![/QUOTE]
Who are "we"? Do you speak for the americans?
If so, you're probably aware of the fact that Israel is responsible for most of the technological progress made in USA's weapons development for the past 50+ years.

[hagbard]

[QUOTE=Mr._Hankey]
If so, you're probably aware of the fact that Israel is responsible for most of the technological progress made in USA's weapons development for the past 50+ years.[/QUOTE]

That figures.

[Marc7]

[QUOTE=Mr._Hankey]When a jew kills arabs, it's a tragedy. When an arab kills jews, it's a thumbs up. F U.
[/QUOTE]


So, what do YOU think about this act?


here is what an apologist said:


"Four more people were murdered in the west bank today. Needless to say, he purpotrator was wrong to do such a thing. However, the rage felt by some people these days is what leads to these sorts of acts, detestable as they are. What is needed is not sloganeering about murder but to extend a hand to those who feel trapped and victimized. If we do not try to understand the origins of the pain people like Mr.Weissgan feel, we can only expect more tragedy."

[lip1978]

[QUOTE=Marc7]So, what do YOU think about this act?


here is what an apologist said:


"Four more people were murdered in the west bank today. Needless to say, he purpotrator was wrong to do such a thing. However, the rage felt by some people these days is what leads to these sorts of acts, detestable as they are. What is needed is not sloganeering about murder but to extend a hand to those who feel trapped and victimized. If we do not try to understand the origins of the pain people like Mr.Weissgan feel, we can only expect more tragedy."[/QUOTE]

Noone with any knowledge of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict would ever say that on the Israeli side if they thought twice. It is an exact mirror of what is said after Palestinian attacks on Israeli targets. Root causes, origins of pain.

But, as usual, it's funny that Marc would complain that an Israeli would say this, as it is a Palestinian POV and to deligitmize the comment is to deligitimize the Palestinian side of the conflict.

[Mr._Hankey]

[QUOTE=Marc7]So, what do YOU think about this act?


here is what an apologist said:


"Four more people were murdered in the west bank today. Needless to say, he purpotrator was wrong to do such a thing. However, the rage felt by some people these days is what leads to these sorts of acts, detestable as they are. What is needed is not sloganeering about murder but to extend a hand to those who feel trapped and victimized. If we do not try to understand the origins of the pain people like Mr.Weissgan feel, we can only expect more tragedy."[/QUOTE]

I'd say he should be treated as any other terrorist and sentenced to life. However, as long as the Israeli government keeps doing its crimes against its own people these actions of vengeance by Israeli settlers may not stop.
Sharon is consciously inflaming the whole region and what's happening over there these days is basically a quiet revolution, where lots of hatred is targeted towards him and his totalitarian regime.
I'd say the joy the Palestinians are expressing is too hasty.

[Marc7]

[QUOTE=Mr._Hankey]I'd say he should be treated as any other terrorist and sentenced to life. However, as long as the Israeli government keeps doing its crimes against its own people these actions of vengeance by Israeli settlers may not stop.
Sharon is consciously inflaming the whole region and what's happening over there these days is basically a quiet revolution, where lots of hatred is targeted towards him and his totalitarian regime.
I'd say the joy the Palestinians are expressing is too hasty.[/QUOTE]


I totally agree with you, however if we need to try and understand why he did this, it might come in handy to understand why the palestenians would want to resist occupation by all means. What do you think is the solution to this problem?

[Mr._Hankey]

[QUOTE=Marc7]I totally agree with you, however if we need to try and understand why he did this, it might come in handy to understand why the palestenians would want to resist occupation by all means. What do you think is the solution to this problem?[/QUOTE]
Transfer, 2 countries for 2 nations and the palestinians surrendering their right of return.
But I don't believe there's a chance for that to happen in peaceful methods so perhaps a war might sort some things out.

[Marc7]

how about merger of the two people and give the palestenians rights and incentive to live in peace! Transfer wouldnt work bcz palestenians would still claim the land, whereas if you remove the boundaries, no one claims anything!

[UrbanPoet]

[QUOTE=Marc7]how about merger of the two people and give the palestenians rights and incentive to live in peace! Transfer wouldnt work bcz palestenians would still claim the land, whereas if you remove the boundaries, no one claims anything![/QUOTE]

thats like putting rabid cats and dogs togetehr. Do you seriously thinkthat sort of transition would be easy O_o

[Marc7]

I think it will end up as being the only choice. Back to topic, apparently this settler knew his victims for 8 years!


The place where the Tawafsha brothers died after a day's work at the Shilo Jewish settlement bears witness to the settlers' futile efforts to save their lives.

Used medical equipment lies on the ground amid still-sticky bloodstains near the settlement gate - sterile gloves, scalpels and needles.

There is also the affecting sight of what they were carrying when they lost their lives, a half-smoked pack of cigarettes, a shopping bag of Arabic bread.

Bassam and Usama Tawafsha were shot in cold blood by a Jewish settler whom they had known for many years, shared food together, who was giving them a lift home as he did every day.

Two other Palestinians died during Asher Weisgan's shooting spree in the settlement's industrial zone, and another was wounded, before settlement security guards overpowered him.
...
When one of them kills us they say he is crazy, but if an Arab did that to a settler the whole world is up in arms saying he's a terrorist


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