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Just bought a 2009 Nissan Rogue AWD S

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Just bought a 2009 Nissan Rogue AWD S

Hi
Just bought a 2009 Nissan Rogue AWD S for $500 above invoice price, total after cash backs and freights and levies BUT before gst and pst tax is $23,489.00 and with the taxes its $26,307.33.
I read that some people can get it for invoice price in the US but not sure if in canada/BC that what I got is a good deal ? I financed it through my bank so that I can get the $4000 cash purchase rebate.
I had to ask them to remove extras like the vin etching (admin fee), nitrogen on tires (additional $65 on the air/ac tax). I also declined the preferred gas card incentive in lieu of getting a better discount for the car.

Here are the details...

MSRP $27,198
Invoice $25,224


bargained $$ 25,725 (invoice + 500)
plus:
freight 1,500
metal paint 135
AC excise tax 100
battery levy 5
tire levy 25
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Total $27,489

less cash back 4,000
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Total before tx $23,489.00
gst (5%) 1,174.45
pst (7%) 1,643.88
---------------
OTR $26,307.33


I think its a great deal no ?
PM me if you want the dealership and the sales contact I negotiated with.
It might be easier to get a deal ie same deal as mine (also I get a referral gift) :D
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Here is the CCC report that I used

2009 Nissan Rogue AWD 4dr S

4WD Sport Utility Vehicles

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 3 Years/60,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 3 Years/60,000 km Cab Corrosion-Perforation 5 Years/Unlimited km Emissions: 3 Years/60,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 9.4
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 7.7

Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $27,198.00 $25,224.00
Freight $1,500.00 $1,500.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $28,798.00 $26,824.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 August 31, 2009
Non-Stackable Trading Dollars/Factory to Dealer Rebate $4,000.00 August 31, 2009
Trading Dollars/Factory to Dealer Rebate $1,000.00 August 31, 2009
Grad Program $500.00 August 31, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.0% 24 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 0.0% 36 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 48 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 60 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 2.9% 72 August 31, 2009
Lease Program
Lease Rate 3.5% 24 August 31, 2009
Lease Rate 3.5% 36 August 31, 2009
Lease Rate 3.5% 48 August 31, 2009
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
No Security Deposit required on all leases.
The Grad Program can only be applied to lease and finance purchases. The Grad Program includes in addition to the $500 rebate, a 0.25% lease and finance rate reduction and the first 4 oil changes are free of charge. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.
Trading Dollars/Factory to Dealer Rebates can be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates) except for the Non-Stackable Trading Dollars, if available.
The Non-Stackable Trading Dollars/Factory to Dealer Rebates applies only to cash purchases and can not be combined with any other available factory incentive (lease, finance rates or Trading Dollars).
Nissan Canada is offering to customers purchasing or leasing a new Nissan vehicle a Nissan Branded Petro Canada Preferred Price Gas Card which provides a 20 cents per litre discount up to 2000 litres. This program applies to deliveries between July 1, 2009 and August 31, 2009 Please note a dealer participation fee of $150 applies which needs to be added to the Wholesale Price Total. Please consult your dealer for further details.
Nissan Canada is currently offering a Special Loyalty Rate offer of 1% rate reduction on leases or loans. Please consult your dealer for further details.
MULTIPLE SECURITY DEPOSITS are now available. You get a lease rate reduction of 0.25% when remitting 4 security deposits. For each additional two security deposits, receive an additional 0.25% lease rate reduction up to a maximum of 10 security deposits at a 1.0% lease reduction. Please consult your dealer for further details.
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For buying a Nissan in B.C., I would say that is really good, even allowing for it being near the end of the model year.

Historically, in that price level of Nissan vehicle, I have always thought that somewhere around $1,500 off MRSP is fair to both parties.

Last time I tried to buy one - 5 years ago - the Vancouver area dealers seemed to be not at all interested in dealing.
(So I changed brand loyalty and bought something else entirely.)
At that time, I did hear that a Coquitlam dealer was the only one worth talking to - maybe yours.

The GTA forum members will no doubt not be so impressed, but what the heck! It's a different game back East.

Amazed that you could get the bogus "Admin. fee" removed so easily and still get a good discount.

Hope they filled your gas tank after you extracted their gold fillings - I think Nissan Canada requires them to do that.

The PetroCanada gas card deal is only worth about $600 at a rough guess, and might be inconvenient to benefit from sometimes.
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Here are the other ccc reports

2009 Nissan Rogue AWD 4dr SL

4WD Sport Utility Vehicles

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 3 Years/60,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 3 Years/60,000 km Cab Corrosion-Perforation 5 Years/Unlimited km Emissions: 3 Years/60,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 9.4
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 7.7

Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $28,998.00 $26,893.00
Freight $1,500.00 $1,500.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $30,598.00 $28,493.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 August 31, 2009
Trading Dollars/Factory to Dealer Rebate $1,000.00 August 31, 2009
Non-Stackable Trading Dollars/Factory to Dealer Rebate $4,000.00 August 31, 2009
Grad Program $500.00 August 31, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.0% 24 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 0.0% 36 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 48 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 60 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 2.9% 72 August 31, 2009
Lease Program
Lease Rate 3.5% 24 August 31, 2009
Lease Rate 3.5% 36 August 31, 2009
Lease Rate 3.5% 48 August 31, 2009

2009 Nissan Rogue FWD 4dr S

2WD Sport Utility Vehicles

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 3 Years/60,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 3 Years/60,000 km Cab Corrosion-Perforation 5 Years/Unlimited km Emissions: 3 Years/60,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 9.1
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 7.2

Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $24,398.00 $22,627.00
Freight $1,500.00 $1,500.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- EBONY (KH3) $0.00 $0.00
Totals including all items above $25,998.00 $24,227.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 August 31, 2009
Trading Dollars/Factory to Dealer Rebate $750.00 August 31, 2009
Grad Program $500.00 August 31, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.0% 24 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 0.0% 36 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 48 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 60 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 2.9% 72 August 31, 2009
Lease Program
Lease Rate 3.5% 24 August 31, 2009
Lease Rate 3.5% 36 August 31, 2009
Lease Rate 3.5% 48 August 31, 2009

2009 Nissan Rogue FWD 4dr SL

2WD Sport Utility Vehicles

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 3 Years/60,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 3 Years/60,000 km Cab Corrosion-Perforation 5 Years/Unlimited km Emissions: 3 Years/60,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 9.1
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 7.2

Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $26,998.00 $25,038.00
Freight $1,500.00 $1,500.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $28,598.00 $26,638.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 August 31, 2009
Trading Dollars/Factory to Dealer Rebate $750.00 August 31, 2009
Non-Stackable Trading Dollars/Factory to Dealer Rebate $3,000.00 August 31, 2009
Grad Program $500.00 August 31, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.0% 24 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 0.0% 36 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 48 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 1.9% 60 August 31, 2009
Retail Finance 2.9% 72 August 31, 2009
Lease Program
Lease Rate 3.5% 24 August 31, 2009
Lease Rate 3.5% 36 August 31, 2009
Lease Rate 3.5% 48 August 31, 2009
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
No Security Deposit required on all leases.
The Grad Program can only be applied to lease and finance purchases. The Grad Program includes in addition to the $500 rebate, a 0.25% lease and finance rate reduction and the first 4 oil changes are free of charge. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.
Trading Dollars/Factory to Dealer Rebates can be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates) except for the Non-Stackable Trading Dollars, if available.
The Non-Stackable Trading Dollars/Factory to Dealer Rebates applies only to cash purchases and can not be combined with any other available factory incentive (lease, finance rates or Trading Dollars).
Nissan Canada is offering to customers purchasing or leasing a new Nissan vehicle a Nissan Branded Petro Canada Preferred Price Gas Card which provides a 20 cents per litre discount up to 2000 litres. This program applies to deliveries between July 1, 2009 and August 31, 2009 Please note a dealer participation fee of $150 applies which needs to be added to the Wholesale Price Total. Please consult your dealer for further details.
Nissan Canada is currently offering a Special Loyalty Rate offer of 1% rate reduction on leases or loans. Please consult your dealer for further details.
MULTIPLE SECURITY DEPOSITS are now available. You get a lease rate reduction of 0.25% when remitting 4 security deposits. For each additional two security deposits, receive an additional 0.25% lease rate reduction up to a maximum of 10 security deposits at a 1.0% lease reduction. Please consult your dealer for further details.
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rouge-rogue wrote:
Jul 18th, 2009 8:31 pm
Hi
Just bought a 2009 Nissan Rogue AWD S for $500 above invoice price. I read that some people can get it for invoice price in the US but not sure if in canada/BC that what I got is a good deal ? I financed it through my bank so that I can get the $4000 cash purchase rebate.
I had to ask them to remove extras like the vin etching (admin fee), nitrogen on tires (additional $65 on the air/ac tax). I also declined the preferred gas card incentive in lieu of getting a better discount for the car.

Here are the details...

MSRP $27,198

Invoice $25,224
above invoice 500
freight 1,500
metal paint 135
AC excise tax 100
battery levy 5
tire levy 25
------------------------
$27,489
less
cash back 4,000
-----------
$23,489.00
gst (5%) 1,174.45
pst (7%) 1,643.88
---------------
OTR $26,307.33


I think its a great deal no ?
PM me if you want the dealership and the sales contact I negotiated with.
I assume you didn't finance. I don't see the cash back posted on their site though. If you are financing then it's a real killer deal.
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macnut wrote:
Jul 18th, 2009 8:57 pm
Amazed that you could get the bogus "Admin. fee" removed so easily and still get a good discount.

Actually the manager stared at me for a moment when I said I do not want the vin etching (admin fee), this is after I was handed off to the manager for the closing price and extra stuff like paint/fabric protection, undercoating etc.

Before that while waiting for the sales person to comeback talking with the manager for my offer I calculated how much the total price before tax should be and so when the manager gave me the total and it did not match the figure in my paper, I told her that I want to see the calculation and I noticed the admin fee and the air/ac tax of 165. I told her that from the other sheet I did not agree to any of these things (I told the sales person that I dont want vin etching) and the nitrogen on tires was never brought up.
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antman59 wrote:
Jul 18th, 2009 9:11 pm
I assume you didn't finance. I don't see the cash back posted on their site though. If you are financing then it's a real killer deal.
I financed through my bank. I calculated that $4000 cash back is way better than the $1500 interest I will pay for 3-4 years.
actually the $4000 cash back is on their website nissan.ca its on the front page where there is an image of a gas pump and "see current offers" on the bottom.
it says up to $4000 cash back on a 2009 Nissan Rogue for July 2009 promotion
I looked up the exact cash back deal when I bought a Car Cost Canada report
FWD S - $750
AWD S - $4000
FWD SL- $3000
AWD SL - $4000

btw in BC there is an SST reduction of $1000 for the FWD S/SL 2009 Rogue
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rouge-rogue wrote:
Jul 18th, 2009 8:31 pm
I think its a great deal no ?
That and you liking the vehicle is all that really matters!

Congrats on the purchase :)
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Dang. Remind me to think of you when I need to buy a new vehicle.

it might be cheaper to fly you out here, negotiate for me, and fly you back LOLz. I like your style of dealing!
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WOW thats a great deal. I've gone to 5 Toyota dealerships in the lower mainland and I cant make them budge, I am seriously considering getting a Nissan now. btw how hard did you try to get the invoice price or did you offer them the $500 over invoice first ? Every Toyota dealership I went to always tells me that the RAV4 are selling so well they dont need to give discount on msrp... meanwhile I see most of their sales people just standing around.
Do you think they will give me the same exact deal as yours with no haggling ?
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rouge-rogue wrote:
Jul 18th, 2009 9:19 pm
Actually the manager stared at me for a moment when I said I do not want the vin etching (admin fee), this is after I was handed off to the manager for the closing price and extra stuff like paint/fabric protection, undercoating etc.

Before that while waiting for the sales person to comeback talking with the manager for my offer I calculated how much the total price before tax should be and so when the manager gave me the total and it did not match the figure in my paper, I told her that I want to see the calculation and I noticed the admin fee and the air/ac tax of 165. I told her that from the other sheet I did not agree to any of these things (I told the sales person that I dont want vin etching) and the nitrogen on tires was never brought up.
Congrats. You sir/ma'am deserve a pair of these :-0

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moneytech wrote:
Jul 19th, 2009 3:00 am
WOW thats a great deal. I've gone to 5 Toyota dealerships in the lower mainland and I cant make them budge, I am seriously considering getting a Nissan now. btw how hard did you try to get the invoice price or did you offer them the $500 over invoice first ? Every Toyota dealership I went to always tells me that the RAV4 are selling so well they dont need to give discount on msrp... meanwhile I see most of their sales people just standing around.
Do you think they will give me the same exact deal as yours with no haggling ?

Thats too bad about Toyota. Actually I was going to test drive the RAV4 after I was done with Nissan, good thing I didn't have to get stressed out with dealing with Toyota.
When I first got there I asked for a test drive, after the test drive I decided I really like the car so I said I have done my research, I have ccc report for the rogue and I would be willing to buy it today for the price of xxxxxx (the ccc report wholesale price). then sales go into explanation how they wont make money if its wholesale price, this is where I used the information I got from this forum regarding the dealer holdback incentive. sales then said the dealer will make money but sales wont get any commission. This is the part where I ask what are the other fees that are included, I made sure there are no admin, no documentation no extra stuff. I was thrown back for a second when there is a $135 cost for paint but oh well I really like red. So I told sales the max I can go up to is $500 above invoice and then we started with filling out the form to send to the manager, my first offer was wholesale price, it came back but sales told the manager about my $500 above invoice offer and manager countered $615 above invoice. This is where sales pressured me to accept the extra $115 and this is where I countered to remove the gas discount option and then when I got the $500 above invoice deal.
Meanwhile I am thinking to myself, should I have gone to another dealer first if they can offer invoice price ? I read in US forums that there they normally can get invoice price and macnut pointed out that in GTA they can do better deals.
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Sounds like a great negotiation on your part and a really good deal...congrats. I do love the rogue...nice mid size ute.
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Congrats on the deal...Looks like a solid deal.

Are the levies the same everywhere? Does anyone know what they are, if not the same everywhere?

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