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Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 4:22 pm
by Jon04CTS
Holy crap. She was passing cars on the grass and in a construction zone going 80-90mph and hit speeds of 120mph. Any clues as to why it would not go into neutral?

According to this article (http://blog.newsok.com/carsok/2012/05/2 ... -standard/) 2011 Sorentos should have "smart pedal" which overrides the accelerator should both pedals be pushed at the same time. Wonder why this 2011 Sorento in the video malfunctioned.

Police Dash cam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r11p8ZNzSA

Stuck accelerator takes woman on ride over 110 mph

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. — An Iowa woman whose accelerator got stuck as she drove up Interstate 35 in Missouri managed to control the vehicle even as speeds topped 110 mph and she was forced to the median several times to avoid other drivers, the Missouri State Highway Patrol said.

Patrol spokesman Sheldon Lyon praised Lauri Ulvestad, 47, of Ames, Iowa, for not crashing her 2011 Kia Sorento as she weaved through traffic and a construction zone with no way to slow down.

"Not only to drive fast, but to go into the median, pull back up into the passing lane and hit that asphalt lip — and not overcorrect — it was really amazing to see her do that repeatedly," Lyon said.

Ulvestad was driving north on the interstate near Bethany, Mo., on Sunday when she realized her accelerator was stuck. Panicked, she called 911 and soon two state troopers caught up with her. One pulled in front of her to alert traffic ahead, while the other stayed behind her.

Lyon said the three cars covered 59 miles in 35 minutes before the woman's vehicle suddenly slowed and came to a stop on the inside shoulder near Osceola, Iowa, about 40 miles north of the state line.

Ulvestad told KCCI-TV in Des Moines, Iowa, that as she passed Osceola she was told to lift up the accelerator and push on the brake.

"And so I did that, and it slammed me from 119 mph to like nothing," she said.

Lyon said Ulvestad had attempted everything the 911 operator — who was in constant contact with the Highway Patrol's headquarters in Jefferson City — told her to do, including trying to shift the vehicle into neutral. The vehicle had a "proximity key," Lyon said, which allows someone to start the car without a real key when they're close enough to it.

"There was some talk about if she threw the key fob out the window, would the car shut off," Lyon said. "We're trying to look at that so in the future, if this comes up again, we'll have more experience with the key fob or proximity key."

A Kia spokesman said the car company planned to issue a statement later Friday.

While he praised Ulvestad's driving and the efforts of the troopers, Lyon said he was disappointed in the drivers who stayed in the left lane of the interstate and didn't immediately move over when the patrol cars came up behind them.

"Every close call was caused by people who wouldn't get out of the way for the lights and sirens," he said. "They ended up with near misses several times."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162- ... r-110-mph/

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 4:40 pm
by ronin1701
Impressive driving, I don't think I could have kept a car under control for that long at that speed (that's 193 Km/h, btw), especially having to swerve out of the way of people who won't move.

But what's the deal with people who won't get out of the way when they see an emergency vehicle (her police escort) coming up with sirens flashing? Not just in this case, but in any case?

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 4:42 pm
by iLLNESS
there was a heavy discussion when the video appeared on liveleak.

ultimately there are many reasons this could have happened, but it basically clears it up in the quote you just made (this quote was not around when the video was originally posted):

"Ulvestad told KCCI-TV in Des Moines, Iowa, that as she passed Osceola she was told to lift up the accelerator and push on the brake."

so basically, it sounds like the gas pedal itself somehow got jammed and wouldn't release. probably a french fry or something stuck in there haha. so she lifted the gas pedal and hit the brake. the reason she couldn't put it in neutral is some vehicles don't allow you to shift into neutral while giving it gas. as well, the power of that engine likely was enough that the brakes weren't working very well.

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 4:46 pm
by sandikosh
It seems she was pressing on the gas pedal all the time until the cop told her to get off it to hit the brakes. I blame the driver.

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 5:01 pm
by ryosayku
Maybe she just wanted to hit the limiter of her new kia?

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 5:01 pm
by azncapcom
The brakes weren't working because they likely were overheated from her trying to brake while the car is still constantly accelerating. She likely didn't use the brakes again for a while thinking it wasn't doing anything. This gave the brakes enough time to cool down. So when she pulled the accelerator, the brakes worked like normal.

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 5:02 pm
by gheart008
sandikosh wrote:
Aug 27th, 2012 4:46 pm
It seems she was pressing on the gas pedal all the time until the cop told her to get off it to hit the brakes. I blame the driver.
How did you come to that conclusion? I think when it says "lift the gas pedal", she had to physically lift it and not just unpress it...

Then again, how she managed to lift the pedal while driving at those speeds sure baffles me.

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 5:03 pm
by azncapcom
gheart008 wrote:
Aug 27th, 2012 5:02 pm
How did you come to that conclusion? I think when it says "lift the gas pedal", she had to physically lift it and not just unpress it...

Then again, how she managed to lift the pedal while driving at those speeds sure baffles me.
stick foot behind pedal, and pull up with feet.

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 5:04 pm
by fastlayne
If the Kia Sorento truly has a shifter interlock and was keyless with Start/Stop button and would not accept repeated pushes, then car designers have to rethink these electronics and software.

Maybe the Bluetooth microphone could be used to analyze the screaming coming from the driver's seat and shut the SUV down! ;-)

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 5:04 pm
by Evil Baby
I've never been a car that I couldn't throw into Neutral. The article states she tried to do that, I guess the acceleration didn't stop? I wonder if she tried applying the parking brake or not.

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 5:08 pm
by dealsaddict
Her vehicle was inching forward as she was getting out of the it.

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 5:18 pm
by iLLNESS
Evil Baby wrote:
Aug 27th, 2012 5:04 pm
I've never been a car that I couldn't throw into Neutral. The article states she tried to do that, I guess the acceleration didn't stop? I wonder if she tried applying the parking brake or not.
you mean the parking brake that most all vehicles have the power to pull away with it on? that's not going to do ***** all.. especially when its an FWD/AWD vehicle and parking brakes are for the rear brakes which only do roughly %25-30 of the braking to begin with.

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 5:19 pm
by Jon04CTS
iLLNESS wrote:
Aug 27th, 2012 4:42 pm
there was a heavy discussion when the video appeared on liveleak.

ultimately there are many reasons this could have happened, but it basically clears it up in the quote you just made (this quote was not around when the video was originally posted):

"Ulvestad told KCCI-TV in Des Moines, Iowa, that as she passed Osceola she was told to lift up the accelerator and push on the brake."

so basically, it sounds like the gas pedal itself somehow got jammed and wouldn't release. probably a french fry or something stuck in there haha. so she lifted the gas pedal and hit the brake. the reason she couldn't put it in neutral is some vehicles don't allow you to shift into neutral while giving it gas. as well, the power of that engine likely was enough that the brakes weren't working very well.
I have never driven a vehicle that would not allow me to throw it in neutral under wide open throttle. I've tried this with many rental cars when the whole Toyota fiasco started. If the Sorento really can't be thrown in neutral under WOT that's quite a design flaw.

And it does seem that the brakes were useless against the engine. Kia seems to have said 2011+ models will all have brake-override so that the brakes can overpower the engine. I wonder why it didn't work since her Sorento was a 2011.
sandikosh wrote:
Aug 27th, 2012 4:46 pm
It seems she was pressing on the gas pedal all the time until the cop told her to get off it to hit the brakes. I blame the driver.
Her pedal was jammed. They instructed her to lift it.
Evil Baby wrote:
Aug 27th, 2012 5:04 pm
I've never been a car that I couldn't throw into Neutral. The article states she tried to do that, I guess the acceleration didn't stop? I wonder if she tried applying the parking brake or not.
The parking brake is exactly what it says it is: a parking brake. It'll stop your car from rolling on a hill but when it comes to stopping the car at high speeds it's a fart in a windstorm.

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 5:35 pm
by spike1128
I wonder how much the Japanese paid this person to make Hyundai look like Toyota?!

Re: Kia Sorento Stuck Accelerator, No Neutral, 120mph, 60 Miles in 35 Minutes

Posted: Aug 27th, 2012 6:13 pm
by Non-Imbroglio
Glad it ended well and this lady deserves a big thanks!

But no neutral? If that's the case then we have a huge problem. As in get them off the street until u fix them problem.

I did chuckle when I read ppl would not move over from the left lane as she approached with a Police escort.. Just imagine what that truck would have done @ 120 mph impact. Not pretty.