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Are Koodo Android phones bootloader unlocked?

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Are Koodo Android phones bootloader unlocked?

Hey. With all the hype behind the koodo phones. are their android phones bootloader unlocked? Will they keep updating the android OS indefinitely? My brothers old phone stopped updating the android os after a copule years.
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Wrong forum indeed.

But the answer to your question is: it depends on the phone manufacturer, not koodo.

No big brand phones (Samsung, LG, Huawei, Google, HTC, etc.) come with an unlocked bootloader AFAIK.

Some are easier to unlock than others though, and some cannot be unlocked at all.

OS updates also depend on the phone maker, not koodo.
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This belongs in the cell forum not hot deals.
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cardlover69 wrote:
Nov 22nd, 2018 11:39 pm
Hey. With all the hype behind the koodo phones. are their android phones bootloader unlocked? Will they keep updating the android OS indefinitely? My brothers old phone stopped updating the android os after a copule years.
No company will continue indefinitely to update the OS, regardless whether it's an Android or Apple.

As for the bootloader, it depends on what phone.

You're posting in the wrong section.
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cardlover69 wrote:
Nov 22nd, 2018 11:39 pm
Hey. With all the hype behind the koodo phones. are their android phones bootloader unlocked? Will they keep updating the android OS indefinitely? My brothers old phone stopped updating the android os after a copule years.
  1. No phone manufacturer would indefinitely update an OS regardless whether it's Apple or Android.
    As for the bootloader, it depends on the phone you get.
    Wrong forum to be asking questions.
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cardlover69 wrote:
Nov 22nd, 2018 11:39 pm
Hey. With all the hype behind the koodo phones. are their android phones bootloader unlocked? Will they keep updating the android OS indefinitely? My brothers old phone stopped updating the android os after a copule years.
The device type you speaketh of has the word "pixel" in it. Assume all others have a permanently locked bootloaders, ship with an outdated OS, and will avoid updating most (if not all) of their "ship-it-and-forget-it" AKA Android devices.
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tkl wrote:
Nov 23rd, 2018 12:03 am
  1. No phone manufacturer would indefinitely update an OS regardless whether it's Apple or Android.
    As for the bootloader, it depends on the phone you get.
    Wrong forum to be asking questions.
Sorry about the forum problem, ya'll are savage.

I believe some smartphones can come bootloader unlocked (the LG G6 US997 version for example). So you are saying that the manufacturer (samsung, LG, Huawei, Google, etc), and not the provider (koodo, rogers, telus, bell, etc), restricts updates on the phones OS?

Thanks.
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tivo_box wrote:
Nov 22nd, 2018 11:55 pm
Wrong forum indeed.

But the answer to your question is: it depends on the phone manufacturer, not koodo.

No big brand phones (Samsung, LG, Huawei, Google, HTC, etc.) come with an unlocked bootloader AFAIK.

Some are easier to unlock than others though, and some cannot be unlocked at all.

OS updates also depend on the phone maker, not koodo.
Speaking for Samsung only, the Snapdragon variants sold in North America have been bootloader locked since the S7, but the Exynos variants (Europe, International, dual SIM) either aren't, or people invariably find ways to unlock them a few months after release. The Snapdragon variant for China seems to be hit or miss, but from what I could gather, eventually an unlock method is found, but it takes way longer.

AFAIK Oneplus is the only company that consistently ships with an unlocked bootloader.
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Aren't most phone shipped with a locked bootloader ?

The difference is that some phones have locked bootloaders that are unlockable. For these phones, you have to enter some information into the manufacturer's website that then produces a free code to unlock the bootloader. By generating an unlock code for the bootloader, don't most manufacturers automatically void the phone's remaining warranty?

OnePlus is one of the few companies that allows you to unlock your phone's bootloader without voiding the warranty. The phones are still shipped with a locked bootloader
https://www.thecustomdroid.com/unlock-b ... neplus-5t/
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arkane wrote:
Nov 23rd, 2018 2:12 am
Speaking for Samsung only, the Snapdragon variants sold in North America have been bootloader locked since the S7, but the Exynos variants (Europe, International, dual SIM) either aren't, or people invariably find ways to unlock them a few months after release. The Snapdragon variant for China seems to be hit or miss, but from what I could gather, eventually an unlock method is found, but it takes way longer.
That's a good summary of Samsung. Basically you're SOL in North America, let alone Koodo. Let's also speak of the others on that list (LG, Huawei, Google, HTC) in North American context. LG is just crazy when it comes to crypto-locked bootloaders and lack of unlocking options. Here you're relying on security exploits (hello DirtySanta) for older devices to bypass the bootloader lock - good luck with that. Even when there is a bypass, no one wants to develop a ROM for this kind of situation. I used to buy LG but now I hate LG for this specific reason. Huawei just stopped unlocking bootloaders. There are some services which cost $10-$30 which offer funkyHuawei unlocking .. not sure how long that will continue to work since they are at mercy of Huawei - one update and it's done. Google still unlocks. HTC is not even sold by Koodo, but has been hit and miss in the past - mostly leaked engineering bootloaders. Do they even have a device on the Canadian market?

On the OS update front, Samsung updates their Notes and Sx flagships in slooow but eventual fashion, but most other Samsung gear that Koodo sells will probably never see another update. LG basically tries to update as little as they can and most of koodo LG devices will probably not get more than one update ever. Huawei is semi-OK especially their world devices, but at this point they only have token North American presence in Canada (since they are practically banned in Trumpland) so their NA devices receive minimal attention. Google is the stock standard. HTC basically never updates.

Oh yeah, and even for the updates any manufacturer decides to develop, Telus may hold back and not approve as they have done in the past.
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Huawei bootloaders aren't really worth unlocking since there are non custom ROMs.

Bootloaders from Samsung and Motorola are usually unlockable but you may run into issues with warranty if they see the bootloader has been unlocked.

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