Is a Lincoln the same as a Ford?

[MVP1]

Is a Lincoln the same as a Ford? I'm talking about external parts here. Is the engine and drive line basically the same thing? I never trust dealers but a dealer keeps telling us that they use better parts and what not on a Lincoln vehicle then a Ford vehicle. It's more reliable and whatnot. Is this true or is he trying to make a quick sale?

[MkmBandit]

The dealer is talking bs to you. You could take the front clip of a Navigator and swap it onto an f150. Same goes for the Aviator/Explorer. The only differences are cosmetic.

[Spud72]

Yes. It is Ford.

[ES_Revenge]

Sure Lincoln is Ford but there is some truth to what the dealer is telling you. Lincoln is a higher brand and they do use better materials on most of them, and in various places. I'd think mainly the interior though. Major mechanicals like engine and trans, etc. all depend. Some Lincolns may have engines or transmissions specific to those vehicles; some may not. It's farily easy to tell with the engine as if the engine is offered on another Ford, it's likely the exact same engine. If the engine is only offered on Lincolns then it may indeed have quality benefits over other Fords.

That said I have no idea what's wrong with Ford anyway, I don't particularly like many Fords but they certainly aren't poor-quality cars, IMO.

As for what MkmBandit said, that may be true but he's kind of disproving his own point. Sure you can take a Navigator front end and put it on the equivalent Ford it's based on, but that right there is telling you there's different parts (why would you need/desire to swap these parts at all if they were the same? lol).

Though parts like bumpers may appear only cosmetically different, you don't really know what else is going on with them. Lincoln parts may be painted better, for example--with more coats, better paints, and better processes. At the same time it could indeed be exactly the same as any other Ford.

Point is there are diffferences. What exact differences I realy can't tell you but it isn't like they just took a Ford car on the same platform, stuck a Lincoln badge on it and called it something different and said here you go. Brand engineering is certainly going on here but the degree of what is different or better in the Lincolns is up to you to investigate if you really want to know. Try a Lincoln forum for whatever model you're looking at--your questions about similarity to Fords on the same platform are probably better answered there.

[Atomic Chip]

Sure Lincoln is Ford but there is some truth to what the dealer is telling you. Lincoln is a higher brand and they do use better materials on most of them, and in various places.

Better quality chrome trim.

If the engine is only offered on Lincolns then it may indeed have quality benefits over other Fords.

Elaborate.

As for what MkmBandit said, that may be true but he's kind of disproving his own point. Sure you can take a Navigator front end and put it on the equivalent Ford it's based on, but that right there is telling you there's different parts (why would you need/desire to swap these parts at all if they were the same? lol).

One word: "marketing".

Though parts like bumpers may appear only cosmetically different, you don't really know what else is going on with them. Lincoln parts may be painted better, for example--with more coats, better paints, and better processes. At the same time it could indeed be exactly the same as any other Ford.

Unless Ford is prepared to provide specific, verifiable information regarding those alleged better processes (which Ford should be more than willing to do, since such improvements would be genuine selling features), the wise purchaser will assume that they don't in fact exist.

Point is there are diffferences. What exact differences I realy can't tell you but it isn't like they just took a Ford car on the same platform, stuck a Lincoln badge on it and called it something different and said here you go.

Actually that's a good description of exactly what they do.

Your post would be much more persuasive if you provided actual evidence rather than vague assertions along the lines of "I don't really know but we should all assume that there are real differences".

[CanadianMoFo]

My friend is looking at a Lincoln Mark LT. He's rationalized the purchase with the fact that the bumper to bumper warranty is 20,000km more, and free service (oil changes), and loaner vehicles while his is in for service. Plus the better quality interior and whatnot. For the $4000-5000 difference it might be worth it.

CM

[woodstock827]

My friend is looking at a Lincoln Mark LT. He's rationalized the purchase with the fact that the bumper to bumper warranty is 20,000km more, and free service (oil changes), and loaner vehicles while his is in for service. Plus the better quality interior and whatnot. For the $4000-5000 difference it might be worth it.

CM

Probably gonna need it.

[KawaiiTentacleBeast]

All Lincolns share platforms with other FoMoCo cars. All SUVs are essentially based on trucks, for all car companies. The MKZ is similar to a Mazda6, the MKS is similar to a Volvo S80, the old LS was essentially the same as a Jag S-type, with the same AJ-V8 engine. None of this really means anything to the driver - different features, suspension, and tuning make for a completely different ride. You should stop worrying about it and buy the car if you like it.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

yes, Lincoln is the same as ford, as for external parts, I don't know.

[gherikill]

Lincoln is to Ford as Lexus is to Toyota as Acura is to Honda.

Do Lexus' use better parts than Toyotas? Maybe but I believe the quality control process is better for the more upscale brands.

What vehicle are you considering buying?

If it is a MKZ, it shares the body with the Ford Fusion but the engine is totally different in the Lincoln MKZ.

[MadKickz]

I hate fords and i dont ever wanna own one but How the hell are those lincoln town cars running to 1 million kms using those proppane tanks???

I was coming home from the airport and this dudes towncar had 1 555 555 CLICKS ON THE CARRRRRR....

ORIGINAL ENGINE AND EVERYTHING??

HOW THE HELL IS THAT POSSIBLE??

[TenzoR]

I hate fords and i dont ever wanna own one but How the hell are those lincoln town cars running to 1 million kms using those proppane tanks???

I was coming home from the airport and this dudes towncar had 1 555 555 CLICKS ON THE CARRRRRR....

ORIGINAL ENGINE AND EVERYTHING??

HOW THE HELL IS THAT POSSIBLE??

regular maintanence ...

[gherikill]

I hate fords and i dont ever wanna own one but How the hell are those lincoln town cars running to 1 million kms using those proppane tanks???

I was coming home from the airport and this dudes towncar had 1 555 555 CLICKS ON THE CARRRRRR....

ORIGINAL ENGINE AND EVERYTHING??

HOW THE HELL IS THAT POSSIBLE??

Built Ford tough IMHO.

[qster]

You can run any car over 1,000,000 kms with routine and proper maintenance of all components.

[Atomic Chip]

Built Ford tough IMHO.