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List of credit cards friendly to people who don't qualify for Visa Infinite/MC World/MC World Elite; only good cards

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List of credit cards friendly to people who don't qualify for Visa Infinite/MC World/MC World Elite; only good cards

I've been meaning to do this for a long while. RFDers here with six figure income simply tend to forget that the vast majority of people do not qualify for these types of cards. So, I would like to make a list of good cards to which average people people can apply. Please post suggestions here and I will make a list and update it. Only good cards with great returns. You know, the type of cards we recommend to friends and family members, so they get as much back as possible for their money.

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CIBC Aventura Gold: 2 points for every $ spent through the CIBC Travel Centre; 1.5 points for every $1 spent at gas stations, grocery stores and drugstores; 1 point for ever $ spend on all other purchases; $120 annual fee (includes emergency travel medical insurance, 15 days coverage if 64 or under, up to $5 000 000)
CIBC Dividend Platinum Visa: get 4% cashback on gas and groceries; 2% cashback on Tim Horton's and Telus purchases; 1% on everything else ($99 annual fee) (does not include emergency travel medical insurance)
CIBC Tim Hortons Double Double Rewards Card: get 1% Tim Cash on all purchases; get free Tim's products every week-end
Desjardins Odyssey Gold Visa: 1% in Bonusdollar points for every $1 purchase (+20% once a year if a Desjardins member) $110 annual fee (includes emergency travel medical insurance; 60 days if 59 or under, 31 days if 60 to 64; 15 days if 65 to 75; none if 76 or over; up to $ 5 000 000)
HomeTrust Preferred Visa: get 1% cashback on all purchases. No foreign FX purchase fees. Not available for Quebec residents.
Laurentian Bank Explore Visa: 3 points on pre-authorized debits; 2 points on travel, transportation or foreign currency purchases; 1 point on all other purchases $110 annual fee (includes emergency travel medical insurance; 31 days if 65 and under; 15 days if 66 to 75; up to $5 000 000)

MasterCard
BMO CashBack MasterCard: earn 1% cashback on all purchases; 4% for the first 4 months
Brim Financial MasterCard: earn 1% on every purchases; no foreign FX transaction fees. Warning, apply with caution, shady company. Read this thread and make up your mind
Canadian Tire Cash Advantage: earn 1% up to $24000 (tiered); earn 1.5% above $24000; pay for bills only payable with a bank account and earn cashback for it
Capital One Costco MasterCard: earn 3% on restaurant purchases and 2% on gas purchases
MBNA Rewards: earn 1% in points on all purchases; can redeem for $50 upon accumulation of 5000 points.
Mortgage Alliance MasterCard: 1% CB, 2% groceries, WB 5% home renovations, no-AF
PC MasterCard: earn 10 PC points for all regular purchases; earn 25 points for every $1 of purchase at Shoppers Drug Mart/Pharmaprix; bonus of 2 cents per litre in PC Optimum points for Esso purchases
Rogers MasterCard/Fido MasterCard: earn 3% on all foreign currency purchases; 2% on all purchases for Rogers products/services; 1.25% on everything else
Tangerine MasterCard: earn 2% on various purchases categories (2 without a Tangerine savings account; 3 with one); earn 0.5% on all other purchases

American Express
Cobalt Card: Earn 5 points for every $1 in purchases for restaurant/food purchases in Canada; earn 2 points for every $1 in purchases for travel and transit in Canada; earn 1 point for every $1 in everything else. ($10 monthly fee) (includes emergency medical travel insurance, 15 consecutive days if under 65, up to $5 000 000)
Gold Rewards: earn 2 MR points for every 1$ of purchase in travel, grocery, drugstore and gas station purchases. Earn 1 MR points for everything else. MR points can be exchanged for Aeroplan points (and other frequent flyer programs) for a better earn rate. ($150 annual fee (includes emergency medical travel insurance, 15 consecutive days if under 65, up to $5 000 000)
Scotiabank American Express Gold: 4% in Scotiabank points (redeemable on travel) for all grocery, dining, entertainment and gas purchases; 1% on everything else; $99 annual fee (includes travel medical insurance; 25 days for under 65; 10 days for 65 and up; $1 000 000 coverage)
SimplyCash Card: earn 1.25% on all purchases; earn 2.5% in your first 3 months (up to $150)
SimplyCash Preferred: earn 2% on all purchases ($99 annual fee); earn 5% cashback in your first 6 months (up to $300) (includes emergency medical travel insurance, 15 consecutive days if under 65, up to $5 000 000)
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Rogers/Fido MC: 1.25% on everything in CAD, 3% on everything in foreign currencies.
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ddot98 wrote:
Jul 13th, 2018 5:35 pm
There's a few "World" cards kicking around. They tend to fall somewhere in the middle between the baseline cards and the World Elite. Not sure what your cut off is.

https://www.pcfinancial.ca/m/english/cr ... ard-world/
https://www.bmo.com/main/personal/credi ... astercard/
I know there's a few World cards, but I would rather not include them. I would like this to be a list where even middle to low income earners could apply for anything.
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My wife had a CIBC Dividend Platinum for 2+ years and it was by far our main card. Only $15k minimum annual income. Earlier this year they upgraded her to the Infinite version even though her income has never been near $60k.
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lefroset wrote:
Jul 13th, 2018 6:23 pm
My wife had a CIBC Dividend Platinum for 2+ years and it was by far our main card. Only $15k minimum annual income. Earlier this year they upgraded her to the Infinite version even though her income has never been near $60k.
Oh yes, I definitely wanted to include that.
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Poutinesauce wrote:
Jul 13th, 2018 6:48 pm
Oh yes, I definitely wanted to include that.
Ok great. It's also 4% on gas, by the way.
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What's considered a good card?
RBC Cashback MC has 2% on groceries, 1% on all others, $0 AF. On top of that you get the RBC-Petro discount plus Purchase Security and Extended Warranty Insurance
lefroset wrote:
Jul 13th, 2018 8:07 pm
I considered that card a while ago, but thought the % return formula was bogus:
- The 2% on groceries is only on the first $6k spend per year, then it drops to 1%
- The % on "all others" is 0.5% until $6k spend within the year is achieved, then it becomes 1%

Basically after $6k spend in the year, everything is 1%. I had a similar thing on the CIBC Dividend (basic) years ago, and it took forever for one's earn rate to accelerate, and then sure enough, your biggest spending category takes a dive to 1%.
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pseudosammich wrote:
Jul 13th, 2018 7:56 pm
What's considered a good card?
RBC Cashback MC has 2% on groceries, 1% on all others, $0 AF. On top of that you get the RBC-Petro discount plus Purchase Security and Extended Warranty Insurance
I considered that card a while ago, but thought the % return formula was bogus:
- The 2% on groceries is only on the first $6k spend per year, then it drops to 1%
- The % on "all others" is 0.5% until $6k spend within the year is achieved, then it becomes 1%

Basically after $6k spend in the year, everything is 1%. I had a similar thing on the CIBC Dividend (basic) years ago, and it took forever for one's earn rate to accelerate, and then sure enough, your biggest spending category takes a dive to 1%.
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Poutinesauce wrote:
Jul 13th, 2018 5:53 pm
I know there's a few World cards, but I would rather not include them. I would like this to be a list where even middle to low income earners could apply for anything.
+1

Afaik MC World has same income requirement as Visa Infinite ($60k).

+1 for a thread on cards that don't have income requirements above $15k

I'll make some suggestions
  1. CTFS MC Cash Advantage, no-AF tiered CB MC. CTFS approves almost everyone. Pay bills via PayTM since it's MC, or though CTFS bill pay portal, and get CB on bill pay to nearly any payee. Suspecting this card will get grandfathered soon, since the Options card is already grandfathered (many migrated to ∆ already).
  2. Mortgage Alliance MC (link) 1% CB, 2% groceries, WB 5% home renovations, no-AF
  3. RBC RateAdvantage visa, no-AF low interest card, ideal for international cash advances for those who can't get HomeTrust Preferred ($5 fee for cash advances internationally, 2.5% FTF, decent backup option)
  4. TD Platinum Travel, $89 AF (often FYF), 20-25k pts WB
  5. US domiciled credit card that's relatively easy for Canadians to get: TD Cash visa (link), see RFD thread
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Well, here is how I personally view it. To me, I am mainly interested in cards that give you as big a % of return as possible, and in features like emergency travel insurance. I'm not really big on churning. I want many good cards I can rely on that fill specific niches.

I usually don't like tiered cards, but it is true that CTFS cards have some unique and worthwhile features, so I will include the Cash Advantage. So far I hadn't seen a Collabria card that led you to an actual application link (instead of a message to contact your bank), but seemingly the Mortgage Alliance MC does, so I will include is as well.
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You could probably put an inclusion on Rogers and PC mastercard if they meet the minimum spending where they could get the World Elite version. They might not get it with income requirements but they can with minimum spending.

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