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List of VOIP Providers & Hardware to Use on our Phones

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List of VOIP Providers & Hardware to Use on our Phones

Thought it's time for a VoIP list thread. I know @Webslinger will be all over this. Often we see threads asking miscellaneous questions (call forward, travel, etc.) and almost guaranteed someone will post "Fongo" on the first page. I'll map it out so the quick answer can be to refer to this thread. There are a plethora of options to consider, and everyone's needs are different.

Acronyms used here
  • ATA: analogue telephone adapter
  • LNP: location number portability
  • PSTN: public switched telephone network
  • SIP: session initiated protocol
  • VSP: VoIP service provider

Anything payment related see sticky in CC forum.


Preamble FAQ
  1. Why not just use Fongo and be done with it? - Fongo is awesome, but doesn't do everything, at least isn't always the best option.
  2. Paid vs. free VoIP? - every VSP has a business model. Take what works for you.
  3. Domestic vs. foreign VSP's? - again, take what suits you.
  4. What about foreign currency? - thread here for forex spend CC's, thread here for USD CC's. TL;DR get TD Cash (US issued VISA, RFD thread), HomeTrust Preferred (Canadian issued no-FTF VISA, RFD thread) or Rogers MC WE (Canadian issued MC, forex accelerator, RFD thread)
  5. What do I need to get started? - a personal credit card and a prepaid card. Depending on which VSP's you'd like to sign up with, you may want a USD /US issued or no-FTF card (save on FTF and potentially a requirement for merchant acceptance). It's common for telecommunications providers to deny foreign issued cards, especially if they have local branding in separate markets. Examples of this are Primus/Lingo and Vonage (you'll need a domestic card to order service from that market). For prepaid, a card you've already depleted (but hasn't expired), else a reloadable card that you usually leave balance at $0. RFD thread on prepaids. Ok enough said on mag strips. For hardware, you'll want a smartphone. A rooted Android kicking around can help. For an ATA, you can use an app on your phone, or consider an Obihai (when on sale on Amazon or Newegg). Cisco SPA112 at Canada Computers is good if you don't need Google Voice. Avoid Linksys PAP2T, that one's been out of circulation for years and all that's left are knock-off's. Another nifty (free) sign-up is 33mail, an email alias service.
  6. As always, it's against forum rules to solicit referrals in thread. Many VoIP services offer referral incentives, and I'll include which ones do wherever such info is available, but referral solicitations in thread will quickly find those posts deleted.
  7. The VSP's that have made the list have either been used by myself, colleagues or fellow RFDers. If there's any known reason to avoid them, it'll be mentioned in OP. Anyone is free to contribute feedback on these providers and can be added to OP.

2Talk
  • country of origin/currency: HQ in NZ, service based in NZ, AU, US. Each in local currency, and US base primarily caters to Canada & US market (they offer Canadian numbers).
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: yes, but a small monthly fee applies to maintain the number
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no
  • BYOD option: must go BYOD, though they do offer a mobile app
  • Referral incentive: afaik no
  • Good, bad, ugly: great in flexibility. Anyone can sign up internationally in either of their markets. Rates from US co are definitely competitive for overseas calling. Downside is they'll disable the account after a few consecutive short duration calls (fraud prevention), and would have to call customer service to unlock the account again.
  • Links: rates for service based in New Zealand, USA, Australia

Anveo
  • country of origin/currency: US/USD
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: yes
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no, rate is higher
  • BYOD option: yes
  • Referral incentive: no
  • Good, bad, ugly: thanks @Webslinger, great call routing. Great international calling wholesale rates.
  • Links: Direct (wholesale) rates - note that it's a massive CSV file

CallCentric
  • country of origin/currency: US/USD
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: no
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no, rate is higher
  • BYOD option: yes
  • Referral incentive: no
  • Good, bad, ugly: thanks @Webslinger. Great call routing. Free NY number for inbound calls.


Fibernetics
Sub-brands:
  • Fongo
  • Fongo Home Phone
  • FreePhoneLine
  • Fongo Work
  • Fongo World
  • WorldLine

Here's the scoop an Fibernetics:
  • country of origin/currency: Canada, CAD, taxed based on billing address.
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: Fongo & FPL yes (only add airtime for calling outside free area).
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no
  • BYOD option: only FreePhoneLine. Only Fongo/Work/World offers app & SMS
  • Referral incentive: there's a referral option, but no incentive
  • Good, bad, ugly: best value for most Canadians. Downside is buying add-ons in-app on a rooted phone might lock out the in-app purchase options. Other downside is US calling is not free. World Line is competitive in rates, but base plans are somewhat expensive.
  • Links: calling rates for Fongo/FPL; World Line


FreedomPop
A US based "Wifi first" MVNO.
  • country of origin/currency: US/USD
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: yes, since a $0 free plan is available
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no, and no option to pay more to dial them.
  • BYOD option: better to use the app. Else can extract sip credentials on a rooted Android phone. Not sustainable for inbound calls since the sip password will randomize, but will keep working for outbound calling.
  • Referral incentive: no, but those with the sim card can add friends and share data
  • Good, bad, ugly: annoyance is getting the sim's shipped to a US address, and the auto-charge of 1¢ on the credit card once in a while. Can use a prepaid card with $0 balance, can be issued in Canada. They don't charge the 1¢ right away anyway. Can sign up in app for talk/text only. Must set phone language to English US in settings to create an account in app (can switch later and retain functionality). Really cool for the 100 free international monthly calling minutes to certain destinations.
  • Links: sip credentials tutorial thread | FP world calling plans

Free Speech
  • country of origin/currency: UK/GBP & Ireland/EUR
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: yes
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no way, it's the UK!
  • BYOD option: afaik yes
  • Referral incentive:
  • Good, bad, ugly: cool to get a low cost UK/Ireland VoIP service. To sign up, must use VPN, and be ready with a UK or IE cell number for SMS validation.

Google Voice/Hangouts
  • country of origin/currency: US/local currency based on Google account billing address.
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: yes. Base plan is $0.
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no, costs more.
  • BYOD option: mobile app only, unless using Obihai ATA.
  • Referral incentive: no
  • Good, bad, ugly: getting a local number only available to US. Getting and maintaining a US number on GVoice requires getting and maintaining or porting a US cell number. Calls to US & Canada are free while physically in US or Canada.
  • Links: calling rates

JMP.Chat
  • country of origin/currency: Canada/USD
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: No. Base plan is $0, but doesn't look like you can add PPU airtime.
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no, probably won't even dial.
  • BYOD option: yes.
  • Referral incentive: no
  • Good, bad, ugly: get a Canadian or US number, or port one in. Supports SMS and short code texting. Beta pricing looks affordable, but will go up post-beta. Works off XMPP/Jabber. Looks very versatile, but not n00b-friendly.

MagicJack & Nettalk
  • country of origin/currency: US/USD
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: no
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no, rate is higher
  • BYOD option: must use/buy their adapter, but weblogs have documented how to extract sip credentials
  • Referral incentive: YMMV
  • Good, bad, ugly: only great if you're hammering Canada/US dialling, as their fair use caps seems to be sky-high

PhonePower
  • country of origin/currency: US/USD
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: no
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: yes!
  • BYOD option: yes!
  • Referral incentive: yes!
  • Good, bad, ugly: with 5k monthly minutes (fair use cap), you can call most of the world with their basic world calling plan, since UK landline dialling includes premium numbers. All plans are taxed by California VAT. Allows two simultaneous calls connected through the same number. They can ship an Obihai adapter, or go BYOD. For BYOD, they offer mobile app, they can "hijack" your ATA (take over and lock down the firmware) or can release sip credentials to you.

Primus/Lingo
  • country of origin/currency: Canada/CAD, US/USD
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: no
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no, rate is higher
  • BYOD option: must use/buy their adapter, Lingo works out of the old Linksys PAP2T
  • Referral incentive: YMMV
  • Good, bad, ugly: uncompetitive except for Lingo's world calling plan, which must be ordered with a US credit card. Primus Canada's VoIP offerings are nothing special.

SipGate
  • country of origin/currency: UK/GBP & Germany/EUR
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: yes
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no
  • BYOD option: yes
  • Referral incentive: not sure
  • Good, bad, ugly: great for prepaid VoIP lines from Europe for inbound calls on the cheap

Teksavvy Tektalk
  • country of origin/currency: Canada/CAD, taxed based on province
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: no
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: probably (no mention of it costing extra)
  • BYOD option: yes
  • Referral incentive: no
  • Good, bad, ugly: base plan ok, international rates ok. No serious pro's or con's here. Teksavvy is a reputable company, so don't need to worry about them being a fly-by. No unlimited UK calling means nothing special here. Can go BYOD, but I doubt few RFDers would find Teksavvy to be their cost-effective VoIP outlet.
  • Links: calling rates

Vbuzzer
  • country of origin/currency: Canada/USD
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: yes
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no
  • BYOD option: yes
  • Referral incentive: afaik yes
  • Good, bad, ugly: don't recommend Vbuzzer. If you must, time to whip out a prepaid card, since they make it hard to cancel billing. Taxed based on province or state billing address. International billing addresses taxed at 13% since they're based in Markham, ON.
  • Links: calling rates. Don't let their rates fool you...often you'd prepay a year in advance for a bucket of minutes to use monthly.

VoIP.MS
  • country of origin/currency: Canada/USD.
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: yes
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: no, but still competitive
  • BYOD option: yes
  • Referral incentive: no
  • Good, bad, ugly: amazing features, competitive rates. Great for DIY. Great call routing. Free iNum's.

Voipo
  • country of origin/currency: US/USD
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: yes, base plan $1/month
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: not sure
  • BYOD option: yes
  • Referral incentive: not sure
  • Good, bad, ugly: just another US based residential/small business VoIP. Includes a bucket of international calling minutes to select destinations

Vonage
  • country of origin/currency: Canada, US, UK, always local currency
  • Prepaid/PAYG/PPU option: no
  • Calling allowance includes premium numbers: from Canada, yes.
  • BYOD option: maybe, but they insist on shipping their ATA. Can use mobile app.
  • Referral incentive: afaik yes
  • Good, bad, ugly: somewhat expensive, annoyance of required shipped ATA, but otherwise easy. If you want Vonage from another market, you'll have to ship to a local address, either pick up locally or use mail forwarding, and maybe even pay with a local credit card.

Italian VSP's
  • Clouditalia Orchestra - link
  • Messagenet - link

Peer to Peer (P2P) Apps
  • Apple FaceTime
  • Facebook Messenger/WhatsApp
  • Google Duos
  • MS Skype - can also buy airtime and dial PSTN
  • Viber

More "Apps"
  • Free-Tone
  • Hush
  • Line 2
  • Talkatone
  • TextMeUp, Text+

Commonly Used Smartphone SIP Client Apps
  • Acrobits Groundwire - Push no subscription
  • Bria - Push requires subscription $10/yr
  • CSipSimple - Android only
  • Grandstream Wave
  • Linphone
  • Zoiper

Free e-fax Solutions
Great for infrequent use. For inbound, use Fongo. For outbound, use website FaxZero.


Premium UK Number Hack
These are VoIP numbers, but for call forwarding only.
  • FreeUKNumbers
  • etc.

Steps:
  1. sign-up
  2. Setup UK forwarding numbers to your contacts overseas
  3. Dial UK numbers from VSP or WSP that doesn't charge extra for premium number dialling (PhonePower, Vonage, Koodo UK calling add-on)
  4. save and enjoy
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Dial plans (legacy) for FreePhoneLine configured in Cisco/Linksys ATA's. Allow 911 dialling. Can disable 911 dialling by omitting "911S0". Allows international dialling (will require world calling airtime) and redundantly blocks 900 number dialling. 811 is set to the provincial health line (works on POTS/cable phone lines in all provinces except ON & MB). 411 set to that silly ad-supported US based directory line (no fee). @Webslinger confirmed government numbers are now supported by Fibernetics.

I still prefer to manually impose number replacement for three digit government numbers, since I don't want anyone dialling 411 or 911 at PPU charges, or even search for Telehealth phone number when they could dial 811.

Mississauga
(911S0|<211:4163974636>S0|<311:9056154311>S0|<411:18003733411>S0|<511:18669294257>S0|<811:18667970000>S0|x11S0| *xxS0|[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|1xxxxxxxxxxS0|011xxxxxxxxxxxx.|1900x.!|1976x.!)

Montreal
(911S0|<211:18443873598>S0|<311:5148720311>S0|<411:18003733411>S0|<511:18883550511>S0|<811:18003613977>S0|x11S0| *xxS0|[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|1xxxxxxxxxxS0|011xxxxxxxxxxxx.|1900x.!|1976x.!)

Ottawa
(911S0|<211:6137619076>S0|<311:6135802400>S0|<411:18003733411>S0|<511:18669294257>S0|<811:18667970000>S0|x11S0| *xxS0|[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|1xxxxxxxxxxS0|011xxxxxxxxxxxx.|1900x.!|1976x.!)
Toronto
(911S0|<211:4163974636>S0|<311:4163922489>S0|<411:18003733411>S0|<511:18669294257>S0|<811:18667970000>S0|x11S0| *xxS0|[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|1xxxxxxxxxxS0|011xxxxxxxxxxxx.|1900x.!|1976x.!)

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FreedomPop dial plan for Cisco/Linksys

For those brave enough to put FreedomPop sip credentials into their ATA. No government numbers, enables ten digit Canada/US dialling (for some reason FP only recognizes eleven digit dialling for Canada/US), and blocks 900 numbers. International dialling enabled.
(<2:12>xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<3:13>xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<4:14>xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<5:15>xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<6:16>xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<7:17>xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<8:18>xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<9:19>xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|1xxxxxxxxxxS0|011xxxxxx.|xxxxxxxx.|1900x.!|1976x.!)
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What the major carriers (incumbents and cable co's) are doing...

For residential, they're advertising world calling plans on POTS and cable phone lines. Just a billing / pricing adjustment to try to compete. The carriers will offer, for instance, a bundle for internet and TV, and throw in the phone line for a trivial price difference. Then for say $30 more per month, add the world calling plan. You'd pay $30+ per month for an all-inclusive world calling plan on VoIP anyway. But the savvy RFDer will "de-bundle and save", by picking and choosing what they want from each telecommunications provider like at a buffet.

For business, Bell and TELUS offer VoIP. Get IP phones from them, or the ATA. Bottom line is to compete with other VoIP carriers, since the incumbents are losing to them due to high phone system costs to get all the calling features on POTS. Rogers, OTOH, is offering a similar setup, but built on wireless (line hunt/rollover/group users feature, maybe IVR & extensions) directly on wireless subscriber lines. They probably offer VoIP as well, but most likely for larger scale businesses.

Anyone with more knowledge on these offerings feel free to chime in and I'll update this post. It's not overly relevant to the thread per se, But readers may find interesting what's happening in the industry as a result of VoIP.
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titaniumtux wrote:
Oct 2nd, 2018 12:37 am
I know @Webslinger will be all over this.
Not really. I'm currently having a suck about my free Tropo developer account dying: https://blog.tropo.com/2018/04/25/tropo-changes/, which means I'm going to have to use a different free service to route annoying telemarketing calls to https://forums.redflagdeals.com/newegg- ... #p28508673.

Anyway, you're missing two of the main, respected BYOD VoIP service providers in North America: Anveo (Montreal and Texas POPs) and Callcentric (New York)

Because this is a cell phone thread, I feel server location is extremely important. Cellular data is far more unreliable than dedicated ethernet internet access (jitter can be far worse, especially in weak signal areas). Additionally, the further away you are from the servers being used the greater the potential for a problem to occur along the path between you and the servers being used. Fongo Mobile/FPL is located in Southern Ontario, for example. Another huge factor is the carriers being used by any service, which isn't always easy to discover, especially for the bottom of the barrel cheapo junk apps.

Fibernetics (Freephoneline and Fongo's parent company) is a carrier (amongst many others) that is used by Anveo, Callcentric, and VoIP.ms which are the 3 main respected BYOD VoIP providers in the U.S. (and Canada). Of those three Anveo has the most powerful call routing platform but is the most difficult to use for newcomers. Callcentric has excellent free customer support (via email only), but their pricing is slightly higher. VoIP.ms has the most server locations and offers more tech support options (live chat).

Anveo (retail) shouldn't be confused with Anveo Direct (wholesale). Anveo Direct is extremely tricky for newcomers (it's best to have a static IP address) and is intended for PBXes--not for residential usage or regular smartphone users. I use Anveo Direct for international rates; their international call pricing is extremely aggressive. What's cool about Anveo Direct is that you can pick and choose what carriers you want to use for your call routes.
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@Webslinger thank you for the info, added some of it to OP. If I'm missing anything, let me know. I checked Aveo for international rates, seems decent, but I'm still getting cheapest with Fongo for my destinations.
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@Webslinger thank you for the info, added some of it to OP. If I'm missing anything, let me know. I checked Aveo for international rates, seems decent, but I'm still getting cheapest with Fongo for my destinations.
I use Anveo Direct (wholesale) for international rates: http://www.anveodirect.com/prices/outbound (pricing in USD). That service is not intended for average, residential users.
It's a lot cheaper than Fongo for international rates, but most people won't be able to use Anveo Direct without putting in a lot of work.
Somewhat related topic is found here: https://forums.redflagdeals.com/newegg- ... #p28835257.
(You can dial into an Obihai ATA or Obihai IP Phone's built in Auto Attendant to access any VoIP service you have provisioned on those devices, including Google Voice, Freephoneline, etc. using regular cellular minutes as opposed to using cellular data).

Anveo (retail) has special rates for Obihai customers, but these rates are intended more so for home phone replacement customers than cell phone users: https://www.anveo.com/anveoforobitalk.asp (prices in USD).
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811 is set to the provincial health line (works on POTS/cable phone lines in all provinces except ON & MB).
Not required
https://www.fongo.com/government-service-numbers/

Specifying full numbers for 211,311,511, and 811 is not required. I haven't tested lately, but it's possible that others aren't required as well.
That's handled at the provider level now. 411 isn't free, of course.

Obihai OBi2xx/3xx PDF guide for Freephoneline can be found here: http://forum.fongo.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 805#p73839.
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@Webslinger for my destinations, 2Talk and Fongo are cheapest. I checked already.

For Fongo, wouldn't surprise me. But for FPL in ATA as well? Those dialling codes are pre-programmed at VSP level? That's impressive.
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Anveo
  • Good, bad, ugly: recommended by @Webslinger, great call routing.

CallCentric
  • Good, bad, ugly: recommended by @Webslinger. Great call routing.


To clarify, I'm not pushing or recommending anything. But those are certainly well respected services by the online VoIP community and full featured services.
Anveo, Callcentric, and VoIP.ms are the biggies. I personally use Freephoneline (which is often shunned by full featured service users online at dslreports, for example) and Anveo Direct mostly . . . I occasionally use Google as well for free calling to U.S. destinations.

I also use VoIP.ms for free iNums.
http://www.inum.net/what-is-inum-2/bene ... providers/
http://www.inum.net/what-is-inum-2/loca ... s-numbers/ (people can call you internationally for free from regular home phones)

Callcentric offers free New York numbers (incoming calls only): https://www.callcentric.com/dids/free_phone_number.

Fongo Mobile is awesome for incoming faxes. The incoming fax gets converted to PDF automatically and appears right in the app (voicemail section) after Fongo Mobile's voicemail system has answered the call. There's no need to check email. I find that feature really useful when I'm out and someone needs to fax me (lawyers, real estate agents, medical prescriptions, etc.). For that reason alone, I paid to remove advertising in Fongo Mobile. I felt that feature deserves my support. Freephoneline works exactly the same for incoming faxes as well (and also, unofficially, supports T.38 fax protocol for sending outgoing faxes), but there's no official cell phone app, so the fax gets sent directly to email. I typically just give out my Fongo Mobile number as my fax number.
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@Webslinger for my destinations, 2Talk and Fongo are cheapest. I checked already.
For international destinations using Anveo Direct value rates? Wow, I find that very surprising after including the 4 cent connection fee outside of Fongo's free calling area (outside of the 10 Canadian provinces). http://www.anveo.com/anveodirect.value.csv (USD pricing) vs. https://account.fongo.com/calling/long-distance/ with a 4 cent (CAD) connection fee
But for FPL in ATA as well?
Yes. I wrote the FPL guide for OBi2xx/3xx ATAs. I had to make adjustments after FPL supported government service numbers.

811 didn't work for Ontario, the last time I tested though.
So, ([2-7]11|<811:8667970000>|911) should work with Obihai ATAs.
411, is of course, a paid service, so I didn't include an alternative in the PDF guide since it's the one used on FPL's forums.
I'm not sure if they get revenue from 411, but they might.
611 also works (reach Fongo).

Ontario, Canada TeleHealth is 8667970000
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Webslinger wrote:
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For international destinations using Anveo Direct value rates? Wow, I find that very surprising after including the 4 cent connection fee outside of Fongo's free calling area (outside of the 10 Canadian provinces). http://www.anveo.com/anveodirect.value.csv (USD pricing) vs. https://account.fongo.com/calling/long-distance/ with a 4 cent (CAD) connection fee



Yes. I wrote the FPL guide for OBi2xx/3xx ATAs. I had to make adjustments after FPL supported government service numbers.
Question for you. How to get their wholesale rates? I'm loading the linked file, keeps crashing.

Glad to hear that the government numbers are handled by VSP now at Fibernetics! About time. Like I mentioned, 811 is set as Telehealth for all provinces except ON & MB, so I still add it manually in the dial plan.
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titaniumtux wrote:
Oct 2nd, 2018 11:58 am
Questions for you. How to get their wholesale rates? I'm loading the linked file, keeps crashing.
Anveo Direct is entirely wholesale rates. You can pick and choose if you want value, standard, or prime rates.
You'd have to sign up at Anveo Direct to get those rates (anyone can). But I have to warn that I don't want to start providing tech support (it's simply too much work for me) for Anveo Direct, and without you using a third party PBX service or an OBi2xx or OBi3xx ATA with a static IP address from your ISP, it's going to be extremely difficult for newcomers to setup. So proceed only if you accept that you're going to have to put in a lot of work and effort. For Obihai OBi2xx/OBi3xx users, visit https://forums.redflagdeals.com/newegg- ... #p28835257.

That's a spreadsheet file that you're downloading (csv supported by Excel, for example).

Anveo (retail) is not Anveo Direct wholesale. Anveo retail is completely different and has higher rates. You don't need a static IP address or a PBX to use Anveo retail.

Anveo (retail): https://www.anveo.com/consumer/default.asp
Anveo Direct (wholesale): http://www.anveodirect.com/
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For SIP apps, I use Acrobits Groundwire since it supports push without a subscription, unlike Bria.
However, note that using Push requires you to give your SIP credentials to them (you register on their SIPIS server, and ring notifications are then pushed to you after a small delay). For some, that's a security issue. However, Acrobits can give you the software to admin your own SIPIS server, where you live, if you're willing to put in the work and keep a server running 24/7: https://doc.acrobits.net/sipis/installation.html. Also, visit https://forum.acrobits.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=101#p391. And, in that case, it's not all that spooky.

Acrobits, in my experience, also offers decent customer service.

Please note that I couldn't care less if you use or prefer something else. That's fine. Use what you like. I'm not interested in pushing anything I use. But I do get asked a lot.
Please do not PM me for tech support. I help out on the forums when I can. Thank you.
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Webslinger wrote:
Oct 2nd, 2018 12:28 pm
For SIP apps, I use Acrobits Groundwire since it supports push without a subscription, unlike Bria.
However, note that using Push requires you to give your SIP credentials to them (you register on their SIPIS server, and ring notifications are then pushed to you after a small delay). For some, that's a security issue. However, Acrobits can give you the software to admin your own SIPIS server, where you live, if you're willing to put in the work and keep a server running 24/7: https://doc.acrobits.net/sipis/installation.html. Also, visit https://forum.acrobits.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=101#p391. And, in that case, it's not all that spooky.

Acrobits, in my experience, also offers decent customer service.

Please note that I couldn't care less if you use or prefer something else. That's fine. Use what you like. I'm not interested in pushing anything I use. But I do get asked a lot.
Question: apart from having to pay, how does Bria compare with Acrobits? The subscription fee of $10/year (if I'm reading it right) is honestly nothing, so for me it comes down to convenience and quality.
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