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Look - Trolls, Trolls Everywhere

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Look - Trolls, Trolls Everywhere

Un... So many insane threads created by new posters.

How about new members can only post in threads until they reach over 1000 (even a few hundred) legit/mod approved posts before creating such threads to curb this stuff.

Thoughts?
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I highly doubt the mods or admins are interested in having to approve and manage hundreds (or thousands) of posts for the purposes of thwarting a few trolls. Trolls are part of the reality now of participating in online discussion. The ignore button works great (as does the report button).
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Understand that mods probably have more pressing matters at hand. I know there are other forums in which this type of suggestion is practiced. I thought it might be beneficial to RFD as well.

How about 100? :)
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I know, trolls everywhere man
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Speaking of Mods, I know they don't get paid, but what perks do they get. Im sure they have jobs and a life, do it out of the kindness of their heart?
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Spidey wrote:
May 14th, 2015 4:38 pm
Speaking of Mods, I know they don't get paid, but what perks do they get. Im sure they have jobs and a life, do it out of the kindness of their heart?
They get to be a keyboard God.
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Spidey wrote:
May 14th, 2015 4:38 pm
Speaking of Mods, I know they don't get paid, but what perks do they get. Im sure they have jobs and a life, do it out of the kindness of their heart?
Honestly, there are no perks. I do it not out of kindness, but because I've been here a long time and thought I should lend a helping hand in keeping the site running as smooth as possible (not that I have a big part in that, believe me, I'm not overstating my importance here). On top of that, trolls and rude posts drive me crazy, so I thought instead of just complaining about those things, I should help clean them up. It is time consuming some days and with the nice weather lately it's been difficult to help out much.
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Spidey wrote:
May 14th, 2015 4:38 pm
Speaking of Mods, I know they don't get paid, but what perks do they get. Im sure they have jobs and a life, do it out of the kindness of their heart?
No matter how many times this gets stated, it's always met with suspicion. We (anyone with a Moderator title) do not get paid, we're all volunteers. On Christmas we may receive a Tims card for a nominal amount, but that's done just as a gesture of good will on the part of the Admins and not something that is expected or guaranteed. We get a bigger inbox and we get to provide a tiny input on how to make the site better. That about sums up our perks.

Yes we have other interests outside of this site. I don't know about the rest of the team, but I do it because I've been here for a very long time and I genuinely love seeing users who help the community, whether it's finding a great deal, posting helpful repair tips, organizing group buys, or just being a positive member. I want to see more of that and less of the problematic posts that can sometimes overshadow and take focus away from what's really important.
SweetiePieGumdrop wrote:
May 14th, 2015 7:39 pm
They get to be a keyboard God.
I prefer the term The Board Warrior.
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koffey wrote:
May 13th, 2015 11:06 am
Un... So many insane threads created by new posters.

How about new members can only post in threads until they reach over 1000 (even a few hundred) legit/mod approved posts before creating such threads to curb this stuff.

Thoughts?
You can never put a restriction like this. Many who sign up want to ask a simple question and not want to go through 1000 post to get there. And besides look at these new trolls who have hundreds of posts and only signed up 1-2 months ago... Their posts are mostly garbage whether they started a thread or replied to one. By stating you need to get 1000 posts to start your own, will only encourage them to spread more their crap all over other threads rather than containing it in their own thread.

I like that the mods are locking these threads, but I would suggest that they always post a link or copy the rule(s) of RFD forum that was/were broken before locking the thread. Too often I see thread just closed with no explanation... or a very little description like, "Low content, locked". Yet "Low content" is not in the forum rules anymore.
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MrDisco wrote:
May 14th, 2015 11:08 pm
I prefer the term The Board Warrior.
Some days it's more like Bored Warrior.
Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it.
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joeyjoejoe wrote:
May 15th, 2015 9:33 am
You can never put a restriction like this. Many who sign up want to ask a simple question and not want to go through 1000 post to get there. And besides look at these new trolls who have hundreds of posts and only signed up 1-2 months ago... Their posts are mostly garbage whether they started a thread or replied to one. By stating you need to get 1000 posts to start your own, will only encourage them to spread more their crap all over other threads rather than containing it in their own thread.

I like that the mods are locking these threads, but I would suggest that they always post a link or copy the rule(s) of RFD forum that was/were broken before locking the thread. Too often I see thread just closed with no explanation... or a very little description like, "Low content, locked". Yet "Low content" is not in the forum rules anymore.
You missed the point that each post needs to be approved by a mod. Very difficult to spread the junk if your posts are not getting approved right? But back to your argument, I don't see why it would be an issue for a new sign up to post in an existing thread for their question. The mod wouldn't have an issue approving it being legit. Besides, if you find your issue/question on RFD via google, I would like to think that the person would be intelligent enough to read the posts before hand to ensure it deals with their question. In that, they might find a solution to their question/problem/whatever and then wouldn't need to join up in order to post.

Help yourself escapes a lot of people these days. tl;dr, that's the problem.
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Just throwing this out there, but how about restricting "new" members from posting in Off-Topic for 6-month waiting period? Other than OT and maybe Automotive, is this an issue in any other sub-forums?
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Also, can restrictions be sub-forum specific? Say a member mostly trolls the Finance forum and accumulates 6 infraction points. Can this member be restricted from the Finance forum until the points expire or drops below the threshold? Basically, before getting to the point of a complete RFD temp ban, the member is only restricted from the sub-forum where they're causing trouble.
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Shaner wrote:
May 14th, 2015 7:48 pm
Honestly, there are no perks. I do it not out of kindness, but because I've been here a long time and thought I should lend a helping hand in keeping the site running as smooth as possible (not that I have a big part in that, believe me, I'm not overstating my importance here). On top of that, trolls and rude posts drive me crazy, so I thought instead of just complaining about those things, I should help clean them up. It is time consuming some days and with the nice weather lately it's been difficult to help out much.
Ive been here since the start, and never been asked. I think I even asked years ago and got denied. Guess Im to outside the box.

I would agree I would help if its slow or winter time, good luck anytime between now and when the snow flies
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koffey wrote:
May 15th, 2015 10:36 am
You missed the point that each post needs to be approved by a mod. Very difficult to spread the junk if your posts are not getting approved right? But back to your argument, I don't see why it would be an issue for a new sign up to post in an existing thread for their question. The mod wouldn't have an issue approving it being legit. Besides, if you find your issue/question on RFD via google, I would like to think that the person would be intelligent enough to read the posts before hand to ensure it deals with their question. In that, they might find a solution to their question/problem/whatever and then wouldn't need to join up in order to post.

Help yourself escapes a lot of people these days. tl;dr, that's the problem.
And approving thousands of posts is a good use of mods' time? They can't read every post made by every newb to approve. Most of the time, they only have time to look at the ones reported... and even then I question whether they actually do look at all flagged posts.

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