But say I had a store and I DID buy an item from [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] instead of from a distributor because it was actually cheaper, and it required manufacturer's warranty.. would my store's receipt be legit for the manufacturer to accept the receipt to perform the warranty?i2mfan wrote:Depending on the item, I figure you could return it to [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]ncix[/rfdlink] for example like if you were a regular client. Of course, the client will have a delay. Most of the time, the instore warranty is short term(10-30 days) in most shop and must be shipped to the manufacturer in any case. Dealing with wholesaler might be another case depending on policies.
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It depends on the manufacturer and whether or not they track serial numbers.Jon Lai wrote:But say I had a store and I DID buy an item from [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] instead of from a distributor because it was actually cheaper, and it required manufacturer's warranty.. would my store's receipt be legit for the manufacturer to accept the receipt to perform the warranty?
If it was something like a Harmony 880, Logitech has no idea if the remote you sold your customer was from Ingram Micro or [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] or [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=167]Dell[/rfdlink] or whoever.
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Anyone know which manufacturers would keep track of serial numbers? It could be helpful to know that sometimes a store could buy from stores like [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] and resell on small quantity orders :PDrew_W wrote:It depends on the manufacturer and whether or not they track serial numbers.
If it was something like a Harmony 880, Logitech has no idea if the remote you sold your customer was from Ingram Micro or [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] or [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=167]Dell[/rfdlink] or whoever.
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I wonder if the profit margin contained therein is at all worth the hassle. [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] isn't significantly cheaper than anything else.Jon Lai wrote:Anyone know which manufacturers would keep track of serial numbers? It could be helpful to know that sometimes a store could buy from stores like [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] and resell on small quantity orders :P
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That's why I got out of it because of low sale and it was a side line. Less hassle for me on few $ profits items. Once, I had to return a monitor and cost me more in shipping(Quebec to Vancouver) than the profit I made for it.Drew_W wrote:I wonder if the profit margin contained therein is at all worth the hassle. [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] isn't significantly cheaper than anything else.
Now, I told friends/familly to buy locally or online(ie [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink]). With the "free shipping" promotion or "$5" shipping, it sometimes worth the wait for them.
I will even put it on my credit card if I they want me to buy the item for them(offline/online) when no surcharge on CC(Big box store). At least, I get 1% cash-back.
Serial numbers tracking could be tricky with manufacturers warranty.
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i2mfan wrote:That's why I got out of it because of low sale and it was a side line. Less hassle for me on few $ profits items. Once, I had to return a monitor and cost me more in shipping(Quebec to Vancouver) than the profit I made for it.
Now, I told friends/familly to buy locally or online(ie [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink]). With the "free shipping" promotion or "$5" shipping, it sometimes worth the wait for them.
I will even put it on my credit card if I they want me to buy the item for them(offline/online) when no surcharge on CC(Big box store). At least, I get 1% cash-back.
Serial numbers tracking could be tricky with manufacturers warranty.
This is exactly it. To many computer parts look "FUN". Good that they are, but you won't make any money - the margins are just too small, and there is far too much competition.
Enterprise networking and storage solutions is where all the money is, and good luck getting into that market.
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I'm using TechData, ASI, Ingram Micro, Synnex, Eprom et al for purchasing.. They all ship to Barrie, but be prepared to pay on shipping. Tech Data has free shipping on orders over $1000 I think it is..basscleff wrote:My existing computer parts and systems supplier went out of business after 8 years of great service and prices.
Can anyone recommend a computer parts\systems supplier (wholesaler)
that has good pricing and product lines?
(I'm looking for wholesalers and OEM suppliers, not retailers. Also someone that ships to Barrie area.
(Maybe someone works for one and wants to send me a referral - PM me
thx any help is appreciated!
Are you starting a business or is it an existing one?
**EDIT** Who was your existing supplier? Local to Barrie?
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I got out too. Margins simply don't exist. The only way to make money in the hardware business is to be a broker and do large volumes.
As for warranties. Most hard drive manufacturers do not require a receipt. The exception is Samsung. Which is why I tell people to stay away from them.
RAM is the same thing. No receipt required
Monitors are hit and miss. The date codes are on the back. Sometimes they ask and sometimes they don't.
Intel doesn't ask for receipts for motherboards or CPU. Neither does Asus.
I am not sure about video cards as I have never returned one. Everything else is cheap and not worth returning.
As for warranties. Most hard drive manufacturers do not require a receipt. The exception is Samsung. Which is why I tell people to stay away from them.
RAM is the same thing. No receipt required
Monitors are hit and miss. The date codes are on the back. Sometimes they ask and sometimes they don't.
Intel doesn't ask for receipts for motherboards or CPU. Neither does Asus.
I am not sure about video cards as I have never returned one. Everything else is cheap and not worth returning.
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More about serial numbers and manufactuer warranties... So manufacturers will permit warranties if they find that they were bought from distributors such as Ingram Micro or Synnex, regardless of if you were an authorized dealer or not? That would contradict to so many of the PM neglections at BB...i2mfan wrote:Serial numbers tracking could be tricky with manufacturers warranty.
Also.. say [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] buys from Synnex, how would the manufacturer know that I didn't buy from Synnex and actually bought the product via [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] and resold it for profit?
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[QUOTE]Also.. say [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] buys from Synnex, how would the manufacturer know that I didn't buy from Synnex and actually bought the product via [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] and resold it for profit?[/QUOTE]
If the manufacturer track the serial number thru the selling chain where the warranty is good only with an authorized vendor(laptop).
You could check the RMA(Return Marchandise Authorisation) procedure for a manufacturer when/if it's available online. That way, you will see if they ask vendor information. I return a harddrive(maxtor) that gone bad without an invoice.
I suspect it won't be a problem for parts because a computer can be resold by a client who upgraded their stuff. The manufacturer want to sell and offer less hassle to the client if trouble arise. If a client find the procedure too long/complicated, the next time the client might go to the competition.
Note: I have been out of the game for many years now. So, I'm making logical assomptions here.
If the manufacturer track the serial number thru the selling chain where the warranty is good only with an authorized vendor(laptop).
You could check the RMA(Return Marchandise Authorisation) procedure for a manufacturer when/if it's available online. That way, you will see if they ask vendor information. I return a harddrive(maxtor) that gone bad without an invoice.
I suspect it won't be a problem for parts because a computer can be resold by a client who upgraded their stuff. The manufacturer want to sell and offer less hassle to the client if trouble arise. If a client find the procedure too long/complicated, the next time the client might go to the competition.
Note: I have been out of the game for many years now. So, I'm making logical assomptions here.
- daytonarfd
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You won't make any money if you plan on re-selling. I am registered with like 3-4 wholesalers, techdata being one of them. The prices at cc are cheaper than my wholesale costs, nothing but a joke.
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thx, I hear you and agree. I don't make money in reselling, however, you can make it in the service you offer.
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That's why we're talking about, say, buying from [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink], or CC, and reselling it. You'll make more than buying from a distributor this way.daytonarfd wrote:You won't make any money if you plan on re-selling. I am registered with like 3-4 wholesalers, techdata being one of them. The prices at cc are cheaper than my wholesale costs, nothing but a joke.
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Hardly. Really, margins on stuff are microscopic. And if you can buy it from [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] or CC, why can't others?Jon Lai wrote:That's why we're talking about, say, buying from [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink], or CC, and reselling it. You'll make more than buying from a distributor this way.
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They can't approach 100% of the market share, and we could helpDrew_W wrote:Hardly. Really, margins on stuff are microscopic. And if you can buy it from [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] or CC, why can't others?
Lol, just a thought, since a few guys in here were complaining that it's not worth getting stuff from distributors, rather [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] has lower prices, etc. In that case, really, there would be no new computer stores opening up, and only the already-established chains would continue to open new stores.
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some of my suppliers had advantages over the retailers. Systembuilders could get 3 year warranty on systems built in house, better tech support. but most of that has also gone away. Microsoft also had some nice programs for systembuilders as well.
- ullyeus
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Which seems to be the case...Jon Lai wrote:They can't approach 100% of the market share, and we could help
Lol, just a thought, since a few guys in here were complaining that it's not worth getting stuff from distributors, rather [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink] has lower prices, etc. In that case, really, there would be no new computer stores opening up, and only the already-established chains would continue to open new stores.
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Here is another supplier for you guys thinking about opening your own computer store. From the threads that I've read, it seems to be owned by [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink].
www.directcanada.com
You don't need a business license to buy from these guys. They're prices are so much cheaper than ingram micro, tech data, asi partner, eprom, daiwa, etc.
Yes, let's all open a computer store. How are you gonna compete when prices are dirt cheap!!! Booyah!!
www.directcanada.com
You don't need a business license to buy from these guys. They're prices are so much cheaper than ingram micro, tech data, asi partner, eprom, daiwa, etc.
Yes, let's all open a computer store. How are you gonna compete when prices are dirt cheap!!! Booyah!!
- basscleff [OP]
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thx for the links btw
- daytonarfd
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Like Drew said, you won't make a dime buying from cc and re-selling, everyone knows about cc, [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]ncix[/rfdlink], etc.Jon Lai wrote:That's why we're talking about, say, buying from [rfdlink=/forums/autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28]NCIX[/rfdlink], or CC, and reselling it. You'll make more than buying from a distributor this way.
The only way you can make a few bucks off each sale (assuming your charging tax to your customers and running the business legally) is if you spend 10-15 grand of supply each order.