pick your own numbers + play quickpick..
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Sep 5th, 2007 07:21 PM #1
Lottery - quickpick or pick numbers myself?
Has anyone seen any stats on whether the probability of winning the lottery is higher when using quickpick or when someone picks the numbers themselves?
Just wondering if the random number generators are really random, and what the odds are .... with 649 and Super 7 especially.
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Sep 5th, 2007 07:21 PM #2
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Sep 5th, 2007 07:51 PM #3
It makes no difference. The probability of winning does not change whether you choose your own numbers or have a computer do it for you. Even if the number generation was not random, it could not possibly affect the chance of winning, because the actual result number selection is random (or is it? cue dramatic music).
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Sep 5th, 2007 08:18 PM #4
quickpick that ****
only old people pick their numbers
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Sep 5th, 2007 08:22 PM #5
its the exact same...
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Sep 5th, 2007 08:30 PM #6
For best results, hold the lighter directly below the money you were going to pay with. You still won't win ****, but at least you'll be warm for 7 seconds.
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Sep 5th, 2007 08:31 PM #7
Look at websites the track the numbers. You will SEE that certain numbers have been picked more frequently than others. Why does that happen? Think about it.
I am quite sure that the balls they use are NOT weighed to like the 4th significant digits. If they are weighed at all. So the heavier ones will stay down more often than lighter ones.
Now, also consider, they will change ball sets every few weeks (to keep it random).
So, track the winning numbers for a few weeks. You may see some numbers being picked more often. I've done that on Super 7 and for the 3 times I've played, I've won a free play.
Of course, only a few get picked more often, so the rest you still have to GUESS.
So my opinion: Study, research and PICK YOUR OWN numbers.
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Sep 5th, 2007 08:39 PM #8
From http://www.worsleyschool.net/science...inning649.html
You've got a 1 in 13,983,816 chance of winning the jackpot.
You've got a ~2% chance of winning anything at all.
Statistically, there is no difference in picking your own numbers or quick picks. People who have a "system" is where the gambling/lottery companies make their billions of dollars every year._______________
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Sep 5th, 2007 08:46 PM #9
Hahaha, that's definitely a more productive way to waste your money considering that the 6/49 central computer is RIGGED not to pick the winning numbers from the gazillion people who played... it picks the winning numbers whenever officials feel it's "time" some schmuck should win it so as not to arise suspicions, ever wonder why big jackpots stay a maximum of 3 Saturdays without winning and the winnings never go above $50 million? Ever wonder why 75% of 6/49 winners are from Quebec or Alberta? Officials want to keep them happy and won't let Ontario residents win it all.
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Sep 5th, 2007 08:55 PM #10
I don't remember where I read it but in the beginning, there was only quick pick. The lottery organizers then realized that when people picked their own numbers, they did not do it randomly (i.e.: nobody will pick 1,2,3,4,5,6 for example because these numbers "should" never come out; however, they have the same probability to come out as any other sets). So they let people choose their numbers; this way, fewer grand prizes are won, because all the sets are not covered evenly. Also, if you choose your own numbers (and believe like most people that some sets "should" not be drawn like 1,2,3,4,5,6), you have higher chances that someone else chose this same set (because fewer sets to choose from = more crossovers) and you'll have to split the grand prize if you win it.
Last edited by kaos25000; Sep 5th, 2007 at 09:20 PM. Reason: Spelling mistakes :)
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Sep 5th, 2007 08:56 PM #11_______________
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Sep 5th, 2007 09:02 PM #12
Hey, Google does probablilities.
49 choose 6 = 13 983 816
49 choose 7 = 85 900 584
kaos25000, your logic about sets is flawed. The odds are all the same, regardless of what numbers are chosen or how they are chosen.
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Sep 5th, 2007 09:13 PM #13
Well, if you have 13 983 816 players and they all play randomly, the grand prize will be won. However, if these 13 983 816 players do not play randomly (human nature with numbers), there is a chance that the grand prize will not be won.
From your point of view as a player, you still have 1 chance in 13 983 816 to win (quick pick or not) but from the point of view of the lottery, they will have more chances to keep the prize.
Where am I wrong ?
EDIT: Or JAC, are you working for Lotto-Ontario ?
Last edited by kaos25000; Sep 5th, 2007 at 09:19 PM.
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Sep 5th, 2007 09:19 PM #14
Actually, I bet it's easier than you think to play with numbers and human nature. I bet large Chinese populations would show a lower number of 4s being selected, and Euro/NA populations may stay away from 13. There may be other numbers that are known to be less selected by lottery players, like 1 and 49, as well. You could conceivably weight draws to select those "unchosen" numbers more often.
Although, as long as YOU play randomly (truly so) then it shouldn't matter to YOU._______________
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Sep 5th, 2007 09:24 PM #15
Sure, quick pick or randomly human picked (if such thing exists) numbers is the same thing. But if you can't pick randomly then chances are you'll more likely end up splitting that big win with another player if you win it (maybe a very small increase in chances, but an increase nonetheless; cf. prior post).
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