A driver should get 7 demarits for not stopping at a crossing guards stop sign. I believe that's equivalent to not stopping for a school bus stop sign.
I hope there's a follow up to this story.
Oct 11th, 2018 10:24 pm
Oct 11th, 2018 10:27 pm
Maybe overreaction...or not? Still, didn't warrant getting slammed against a vehicle and trumped-up charges.
Oct 11th, 2018 10:29 pm
Oct 11th, 2018 10:43 pm
Oct 12th, 2018 1:32 am
A few things:Mohamed Hameed, 70, said he was about to lead children across a street near Mount Joy Public School in Markham, Ont., when he says a vehicle slowed down, but didn’t stop. “He was not stopping so I hit on the back of the car to ask him to stop,” Hameed told CTV Toronto on Wednesday.
Oct 12th, 2018 1:39 am
what he is saying here, is different from the written newsakira1971 wrote: ↑Oct 12th, 2018 1:32 amThis story makes absolutely no sense, other than just having inflamatory clickbait headline.
A nearby witness? So the crossing guard didn't actually see the "infraction" other than someone saying it was a rolling stop?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/crossing- ... -1.4129501
A few things:
- a crossing guard does not lead the children across. The guard is required to enter the intersection, raise the stop sign and THEN signal for the children to cross only when safe to do so.
- as he admitted to CTV News, he wasn't even in the intersection yet to start the crossing procedure. He was only "about to" lead them.
- he didn't actually witness the car doing a rolling stop. A "nearby witness" told him. For all he knew, the car was already legally in the intersection.
- by his account, the car was already well into the intersection for him to "hit on the back of the car". His reasoning for physically slapping the car was that he was worried "that the children are going to get run over by the vehicle" makes no sense - car is already past the children he said he was going to help across. Thus, the kids were never in danger at that point.
- as such in situations like this without a collision, the OTC Crossing Guard guideline is clear - guards are not to confront or escalate. They are to submit an Incident Response with details of vehicle and a description of driver.
- Given the information above, the crossing guard had no authority (moral or legal) to slap a metal STOP sign at a car. It's more than likely that it would have caused damage to the paint job. Seriously, how many here on RFD would not be upset if a stranger scratched your car for no reason when you legally entered an intersection?
Oct 12th, 2018 2:11 am
Oct 12th, 2018 5:36 am
Oct 12th, 2018 6:40 am
Perhaps. But the fact that the crossing guard was released unconditionally suggests to me that the “more to the story” wasn’t enough for the York Region cops to side with their Toronto cop brother and lay charges.
Oct 12th, 2018 6:50 am
No matter why someone hits my car, I don't have any right to assault the other person. This rascal should be in jail for few days and not have the job.
Oct 12th, 2018 6:55 am
Oct 12th, 2018 9:13 am
Yup, but some ppl just love making excuses for what's on the surface crap behavior. Now if there's new evidence the crossguard is some psycho, go ahead, but always blindly giving the benefit of the doubt to the party w/ the power is just naive as hell.
Oct 12th, 2018 9:48 am
Oct 12th, 2018 10:25 am
To be totally honest if I had someone hit my car with a stop sign I’d lose my mind, crossing guard or not I’d still be pissed.
Oct 12th, 2018 10:33 am
What right would he have had to do that even if he was on duty? There's a lot of thugs in the police department, sadly. The type of people who are drawn to "power trip" type roles. Of course there are good cops, but lots of bad apples too.