Mayor Rob Ford had no authority to cancel Transit City, lawyers say

[flashy_mcflash]

The conversion is a waste of money, I think last estimates were close to $700 million.

I think we should just extend the subway to Victoria Park to serve the dense commercial area and new condos being built. At Victoria Park we can design the station so that people can conveniently transfer to the Sheppard LRT that will travel along Sheppard to Meadowvale. This should still allow for the future 4 stop extension of the Sheppard Subway to the Scarborough Town Centre, whenever that may be.

Do you have a feasible way to fund this subway? Why is no one answering this question?

This is from the Post, before anyone screams "LIBRUL SOURCES!"

MAYOR’S FULL PLAN
(Including unfunded Sheppard extension)
Cost: $12.4-billion
Length: 37 km
Cost per kilometre: $335-million
Torontonians served (within 500 metres of rapid transit each way): 339,400
Cost per Torontonian: $37,000
Projected annual ridership: 111-million
Low income population served: 22,700
(Source: Pembina Institute)

Everyone wants subways, but critics point out that there is no secured funding to pay for the 12-kilometre Sheppard extension. A report commissioned by Mayor Rob Ford determined that the extension is “feasible” with substantial private sector financing and revenue tools such as parking taxes. “It’s not about subways. It’s how you pay for subways,” said Ms. Stintz. “And I’ve asked the Mayor repeatedly, ‘Show me a plan that pays for the Sheppard subway,’ and after a year we still don’t have a plan.”

So, Ford's commissioned study by esteemed dentist Gordon Chong admits that you need substantial private sector financing and tax increases. I think we can all admit that neither of these options are realistic, since zero private dollars have been committed or even offered for this project.

[Hitman21]

I recommend those newbies who are paid to post here should stop

Agreed. They really shouldn't be here at all.

[NorthYorker]

VRR relies on a heavy network of heavy railway systems. LRT are addition to that backbone as are tramways in Munich

VRR S-Bahn is upgrading to the same Bombardier vehicles which are called LRTs in Toronto. So, same vehicles which are, by your own admission, forming backbone of VRR service, will form backbone of the Toronto's LRT according to resurrected TransitCity plan.

[Fac1]

Let's say you're correct and that 80% of the GTA's population growth would be outside of Toronto and not north of Steeles Avenue just to be more realistic. What are you going to do for the majority of people that live outside of Toronto but work inside Toronto? They don't have to work downtown. They could work at North York, Midtown Toronto, Downtown Toronto, Scarborough, Etobicoke, etc. LRT may solve the problem now but as the population number grows, so will the amount of people using public transit and people that drive.

Firstly, Ford's plan has no subway, it is simply burying the LRT in a special tunnel that will cost as much of a subway but not replicate a subway. Secondly, I fail to see how building a small stretch of this LRT at-grade, in an area with 6 lanes of roadway (and which will result in no loss in lanes for cars, constitutes the city abandoning subways altogether. No one is suggesting that in areas with adequate density (and no metric shows Scarborough achieving anywhere near the density required to recover costs of a subway now or in the next 5 decades), that subways should not be built. Building an LRT-style DRL would be a disaster, for instance, as the demand for a subway is there already. Thirdly, building the LRT at-grade but replicating the stop spacing of the proposed underground LRT would make no difference in speeds, be it below or above ground. I would be in favour of reducing the number of stops on Eglinton from 46 to 30ish (700-800m stop spacing) and have the scaled back bus route service the local stops (300-400m).

[flashy_mcflash]

Agreed. They really shouldn't be here at all.

Why not? Unlike Zero over there, some of us are actually Toronto residents, not peanut gallery "professional statistics analysts" from Mississauga.

[vero95]

VRR S-Bahn is upgrading to the same Bombardier vehicles which are called LRTs in Toronto. So, same vehicles which are, by your own admission, forming backbone of VRR service, will form backbone of the Toronto's LRT according to resurrected TransitCity plan.

stop trolling, dude. I am tired or your nonsense
educate yourself and then post

[Fac1]

Agreed. They really shouldn't be here at all.

Yeah, it's a terrible thing to care about the city you live in and the services you use everyday.

[oranr]

Closed - per OP's request