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Oct 25, 2016
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montréal
Hugh Jass wrote:
Mar 16th, 2017 5:17 am
Coz it's not allowed. That would be taking OT from a cupw member, they can't do our work. Period.
def. yesterday they asked me to do clerk / P04 work after sorting my route (we weren't going out) and the bunk clerk will apparently be able to claim the time they made us do as it took from his job (even if he doesn't sort small packets usually, i think it was his time to extension).
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Oct 25, 2016
63 posts
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montréal
da_way wrote:
Mar 16th, 2017 8:03 pm
vegemite are you still alive?
if anything is going to kill me, it won't be canada post !! i finished about the same i had finished on other days, but i started with the POC i had missed monday and tuesday. they cut the route and gave most the CMBs to an even newer guy than me and so when i saw him on the road i decided to pull over and ask how he was doing and he was fully breaking down over not finding them, the tie outs and sequenced mail etc. came back at the dépôt around 20h45. i no longer feel stressed that they'll give me shit. they fully knew how this route was hard, i was told it's over evaluated and the guy constantly does overtime. how did they expect me to magically finish a route i couldn't earlier in the week but now with 2 days worth of mail !! it'S a relief to see that other LCs don't freak out over me bringing back mail like i thought everyone would. i'd said i called the union yesterday and they got back to me within 24h (lol) but i was on the road and missed the call.

i got mail from the STTP (CUPW or something, the union) today asking us to call our deputy RE how much we love our mail. i'll do it but i must say i read things very diagonally when i come back from 11h days.
Jr. Member
Jan 16, 2017
169 posts
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Toronto
vegemite wrote:
Mar 16th, 2017 9:44 pm
if anything is going to kill me, it won't be canada post !! i finished about the same i had finished on other days, but i started with the POC i had missed monday and tuesday. they cut the route and gave most the CMBs to an even newer guy than me and so when i saw him on the road i decided to pull over and ask how he was doing and he was fully breaking down over not finding them, the tie outs and sequenced mail etc. came back at the dépôt around 20h45. i no longer feel stressed that they'll give me shit. they fully knew how this route was hard, i was told it's over evaluated and the guy constantly does overtime. how did they expect me to magically finish a route i couldn't earlier in the week but now with 2 days worth of mail !! it'S a relief to see that other LCs don't freak out over me bringing back mail like i thought everyone would. i'd said i called the union yesterday and they got back to me within 24h (lol) but i was on the road and missed the call.

i got mail from the STTP (CUPW or something, the union) today asking us to call our deputy RE how much we love our mail. i'll do it but i must say i read things very diagonally when i come back from 11h days.
Glad to hear you are no longer stressed out!
Keep up the good work, vegemite!

Don't worry about bringing mail back.
Most walks are over-assessed, walk owners can finish early because they're more experienced as LC also with the particular walk.
It's hard for any new LCs to do a new walk.

Btw, love your name.
Are you from Australia??
Deal Addict
Jun 26, 2008
1731 posts
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Toronto
Here's another tip vegemite, you can check your edit book and on the 3rd page or something, it tells you what the route is evaluated at. A eight hour route is 480, but take note of how much time it is over evaluated by. Let's say it is 30 minutes over evaluated, you should get paid over assessed route on your pay cheque. It will be in this example 30 minutes for every day you worked on the route and you get paid at your normal 19.xx rate in addition to your eight hours regardless over time or not. Don't let them screw you out of that pay as well.
Newbie
Oct 25, 2016
63 posts
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montréal
mtl born and raised but have spent some time in aus ! and i LOVE vegemite !

thank you guys, you def have helped me out tons. da_way, do i find the edit book on the ledge somewhere ? how would it appear on my pay stub ?

edit also wondering, but also i will be assuming this +$ thing is only when you get out the route by yourself ? surely if they split my route it's simply not 480. i'm pretty sure i have done a few over-evaluated routes before whole though and i am def going to check this out.
Jr. Member
Jan 16, 2017
169 posts
35 upvotes
Toronto
vegemite wrote:
Mar 16th, 2017 10:13 pm
mtl born and raised but have spent some time in aus ! and i LOVE vegemite !
I've been there a couple of weeks around Gold Coast.

Vegemite isn't for everybody's taste and most of my friends couldn't take it but I kinda liked it, too!

Anyway, talk to some other LCs, especially FT relief LCs, they do know lots of walks in your station and if you ask, most of them gladly trying to help you.

One more day to go and weekend!
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Apr 20, 2013
255 posts
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Thrasher wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 10:38 pm
Hang in there, it will get better. You just gotta figure it out.
Seriously, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard (and SAID) this, my paycheque would be much larger. ;P
Jr. Member
Jan 16, 2017
169 posts
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Toronto
digression wrote:
Mar 16th, 2017 11:52 pm
Seriously, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard (and SAID) this, my paycheque would be much larger. ;P
Ha ha, so true!

But it does get better.
It's nice to see (or read here in this case) any new terms doing well, not defeated by management's BS.

I mean we all had to go through this so as if you're looking at you back when you started!
So naturallyb you want to him\her succeed!
Newbie
Oct 25, 2016
63 posts
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montréal
:).

i just find it weird that i was doing fine in other dépôts but this one is just a shitshow. to be fair, i rather climb 200+ storeys and have volume go out than walk vitam eternam between bungalows..

can't always get what you waa-aa-nt !
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Nov 10, 2006
1938 posts
378 upvotes
digression wrote:
Mar 16th, 2017 11:52 pm
Seriously, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard (and SAID) this, my paycheque would be much larger. ;P
It does get better, then it gets worse, then better again, then horrible, then good.... etc. Until you have 20+ years of seniority and are able to pick a good route. But by that time all the routes will be horrible, I bet. The best routes will be 1500 POC with 200 scannables, 50-60 signatures on Mondays. :-)

I mean, yesterday I saw a wave 2 guy (10:00AM start) that was back in the depot at 2:15PM. The supervisors will continue to add more and more stuff to our routes to make them longer since some guys are able to finish their routes in 4 hours....
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Oct 25, 2016
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montréal
Thrasher wrote:
Mar 18th, 2017 4:12 pm
It does get better, then it gets worse, then better again, then horrible, then good.... etc. Until you have 20+ years of seniority and are able to pick a good route. But by that time all the routes will be horrible, I bet. The best routes will be 1500 POC with 200 scannables, 50-60 signatures on Mondays. :-)

I mean, yesterday I saw a wave 2 guy (10:00AM start) that was back in the depot at 2:15PM. The supervisors will continue to add more and more stuff to our routes to make them longer since some guys are able to finish their routes in 4 hours....
i've also been sorting (wave 2) past 14h (help i am dying) and have seen people come back but def from wave 1. i hear a lot of people complaining about getting asked to double bc they come back early but they don't take their breaks. jesus christ, that's just the basics of every job. don't give the employer that much leeway, not even 30 minutes.

i'm glad i'm a week in wave 1, traditional post, next week. i seem to do better with the grey boxes, plus i have more sunlight to use !

we got a letter from the union saying they were going to contest the split of 5 lists for OLL mtl into 27.

was waiting to get your own route so long 'back in the day' ? it seems kind of insane. i am going to assume and hope the job, even as relief in new routes all the time, does come easier with time/exp.. perhaps some sort of canada post intuition takes over ? my delegate said they really ride people because they only want to keep the very best 6'2 super fast walkers etc around, so we have to tough it out. the 'chef' or whatever, above the supervisors guy, came and threw me a whole lot of shade on friday. apart from his number crunching ass, i get it, blah blah, if i work 10h days it does give me hours but also it would be cool to be back home to eat supper etc. apparently there is a life outside CP ?!
Sr. Member
Apr 30, 2015
705 posts
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York, ON
I found as a term, I was more motivated to work faster. I guess because I was relief most of the time, and you just don't know how long that route should take, or how much mail you have most of the time compared to the average, and it just overwhelmed me most of the time and made me work faster.

Now with my own route, I know how much is average, how much more is going to put me into overtime, how much is going to let me finish early, and I pace myself accordingly. It's way less stressful.

You know people kept telling me it gets better, and I guess in some ways it does, but it's still a crap job. When you get enough term seniority right before you're hired, you can get some really good assignments. But that all goes away when you're hired. Then you're back at the bottom again. And seniority takes much longer to get as a permenant employee. The only things I can say that are really an improvement for me now as a permanent employee are the benefits, pension, and full coverage from the collective agreement. My paycheck is smaller, my walk is much worse, it's harder to plan absenses and take time off, and it's far more difficult to win bids.
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Feb 16, 2013
773 posts
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Toronto
We don't get packages delivered. We get package notices that teleport in silently to the front door...
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May 21, 2013
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Montreal
cowbunpants wrote:
Mar 19th, 2017 12:11 am
We don't get packages delivered. We get package notices that teleport in silently to the front door...
There's various reasons why this could happen. You don't want to know how many times I knock on the door, see someone inside and they refuse to answer the door.

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