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Apr 30, 2017
55 posts
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Toronto
brian6d wrote:
Oct 8th, 2017 2:12 am


Thanks in advance if anyone can give me some guidance
You can try talking to staffing, and explain your absences.

You only get terminated after getting 3 consecutive letters, so your good for now. The acceptance rate use to be 50%, now they average the acceptance rate from the list you work on so it changes every time they evaluate employees.

You can also grieve your letter, but the union will not take any actions until you get fired, (some ****ing stupid clause in our agreement article 9.106)

If you do lose your job, union will proceed with the grievance and it ends up in arbitration, it usually takes 3-6 months to get your job back, and you do not get compensated.


union does not give a **** about temps, I learned this with my experience above, if they truly did they would negotiate what the **** "reasonable availability" means and have it put in writing with a set percentage or so.
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May 2, 2012
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Shafted1 wrote:
Oct 8th, 2017 3:48 am
You can try talking to staffing, and explain your absences.

You only get terminated after getting 3 consecutive letters, so your good for now. The acceptance rate use to be 50%, now they average the acceptance rate from the list you work on so it changes every time they evaluate employees.

You can also grieve your letter, but the union will not take any actions until you get fired, (some ****ing stupid clause in our agreement article 9.106)

If you do lose your job, union will proceed with the grievance and it ends up in arbitration, it usually takes 3-6 months to get your job back, and you do not get compensated.


union does not give a **** about temps, I learned this with my experience above, if they truly did they would negotiate what the **** "reasonable availability" means and have it put in writing with a set percentage or so.
While the language is very grey regarding, “reasonable availability”, there is mainly because a precedent has already been set in arbitration. There has already been numerous grievances regarding the eclipse system and the new method you mentioned on how they determine an employee’s acceptance rate.

I would recommend keeping detailed notes and presenting these to both CUPW and CPC, while formally requesting the letter of refusal be removed from your file in writing.

A paper trail is your best route here, but I wouldn’t worry too much about the Letters. Most of us have had at least one in the past.
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Sep 6, 2015
50 posts
5 upvotes
York, ON
brian6d wrote:
Oct 8th, 2017 2:12 am
Hey all,
Looking for some help/advice if at all possible, started working as part time LC after training in July in Montreal area. Immediately started receiving calls from "Port d'attache" ie. human beings calling to offer either day to day or week long assignments, but, not at my "assigned depot". I accepted pretty much everything.
Around September 14th, the person told me I'd be getting a call from "Eclipse system" to offer me week long work at my "assigned depot". Never got the call and we then established that my phone # was not in the "Eclipse" system and he manually entered it and gave me the assignment for the week. This would prove to be problematic as far as previous missed calls.
Now this Friday October 6th I received a letter saying I had refused 3 of 6 offers for the period July 23rd to October 23rd and that was "unacceptable and if I continue to demonstrate unreasonable availability we will review your employment status" (I can quote at length if needed!). When I look on the website, one refusal is 08/28 and I NEVER received a call and TWO are for 09/01 where I had told the person beforehand that I had a dentists appointment (but yet had never in previous two months had an offer as LC at my "assigned depot" and when mentioned at the time to the person making the offers said he'd look into it...)
So just to be clear I never got a call and refused an assignment as LC at my depot.
I also had a weeklong part time assignment at my depot that seems to be omitted from this whole thing.
During this time period there were 44 working days available and I worked full or part time on 41 of them, mostly weeklong assignments and not at my assigned depot. I'm not sure if these days don't count as accepted assignments or as "on-call". If that were the case perhaps I'd be better to refuse those and accept day to day on call work.

I'm very sorry for the long winded rambling post but I've really been working hard to make this job work and have actually been enjoying the experience overall. About half of the 10 people that passed training with me in July have already quit and yet I've been loving it and now totally out of the blue (for me at least, maybe I'm not too bright) this letter has ruined everything (I can't stop thinking about it).
I have extremely detailed notes about call times, offers, hours, problems, etc. and wondering if anyone could help me with some advice.
BTW before this situation I've really enjoyed reading this board and found so much helpful information on here!

Thanks in advance if anyone can give me some guidance
After my LC training, I ignored 4 calls from Eclipse and also refused 1 call during that two week. I did not receive any letter from CP about my absence.

Have you completed your 480 hours yet?
Newbie
Sep 3, 2017
6 posts
Shafted1 wrote:
Oct 8th, 2017 3:48 am
You can try talking to staffing, and explain your absences.

You only get terminated after getting 3 consecutive letters, so your good for now. The acceptance rate use to be 50%, now they average the acceptance rate from the list you work on so it changes every time they evaluate employees.

You can also grieve your letter, but the union will not take any actions until you get fired, (some ****ing stupid clause in our agreement article 9.106)


If you do lose your job, union will proceed with the grievance and it ends up in arbitration, it usually takes 3-6 months to get your job back, and you do not get compensated.


union does not give a **** about temps, I learned this with my experience above, if they truly did they would negotiate what the **** "reasonable availability" means and have it put in writing with a set percentage or so.
Thanks for the info, hopefully it'll work out!
Newbie
Sep 3, 2017
6 posts
pike18 wrote:
Oct 8th, 2017 6:44 am
While the language is very grey regarding, “reasonable availability”, there is mainly because a precedent has already been set in arbitration. There has already been numerous grievances regarding the eclipse system and the new method you mentioned on how they determine an employee’s acceptance rate.

I would recommend keeping detailed notes and presenting these to both CUPW and CPC, while formally requesting the letter of refusal be removed from your file in writing.

A paper trail is your best route here, but I wouldn’t worry too much about the Letters. Most of us have had at least one in the past.
Thanks! From what I see and read it kinda feels like the letters are somewhat random and don't necessarily reflect whether people are actually refusing or accepting work. Appreciate the response.
Newbie
Sep 3, 2017
6 posts
K24Slow wrote:
Oct 8th, 2017 1:33 pm
After my LC training, I ignored 4 calls from Eclipse and also refused 1 call during that two week. I did not receive any letter from CP about my absence.

Have you completed your 480 hours yet?
Haven't completed the 480 hours, I believe I'm somewhere around 420.
Newbie
Sep 6, 2015
50 posts
5 upvotes
York, ON
brian6d wrote:
Oct 8th, 2017 3:50 pm
Haven't completed the 480 hours, I believe I'm somewhere around 420.
It's only going to get busier from hereon. I highly doubt CP would lay people off at this time. You'll be working pretty much everyday after November 1st.
Newbie
Jun 11, 2012
96 posts
14 upvotes
Montreal
Shafted1 wrote:
Oct 6th, 2017 9:21 pm
as a temp, no
Just in case anyone was wondering, yes the plants were open and we were all called in temps and perms.
Newbie
Apr 27, 2016
16 posts
K24Slow
After how long you received your letter of offer after sending your security screening documents?
I sent my security screening papers for postel clerk Po4 last week and now waiting for the offer letter .
Deal Addict
Jun 26, 2008
1711 posts
163 upvotes
Toronto
All hands on deck at the plants? I'm excited for tomorrow.
Newbie
Oct 6, 2017
2 posts
Do i need to fill out and bring the "criminal convictions additional information" sheet if i dont have any criminal convictions?
Sr. Member
Oct 16, 2014
962 posts
583 upvotes
Toronto, On
Counut wrote:
Oct 9th, 2017 6:55 pm
Do i need to fill out and bring the "criminal convictions additional information" sheet if i dont have any criminal convictions?
bring it anyway and leave it blank. Can't hurt to have it on you....
Sometimes the truth hurts. The other times it hurts worse....
Newbie
Aug 12, 2017
26 posts
well 2 weeks of training down..working on the street was great..my trainer was excellent..3 days left with the 2 tests to go.
Newbie
Oct 3, 2017
6 posts
1 upvote
jadoo2015 wrote:
Oct 9th, 2017 10:09 am
K24Slow
After how long you received your letter of offer after sending your security screening documents?
I sent my security screening papers for postel clerk Po4 last week and now waiting for the offer letter .
in my case, after submitting security screening requirement i waited for 3weeks to receive an update from HR and they sent me an offer letter..

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