And that following Tuesday is a biatch
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Feb 11th, 2018 1:29 pm
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We should never fall into the trap of comparing ourselves to the lowest common denominator. Pensions, benefits, etc. should be expected in a prosperous society such as this. Remember, we are making the money for them!fishhunting wrote: ↑Feb 10th, 2018 2:40 pmCompletely agree.
You want the guy making 19 with no raise in sight to work harder than the guy making 28, this is difficult. Now a days I do 8hr/day take all my lunch break washup time and take good care of my own health and safety.
This is definitely not a job to lose sleep over. Any trades, skilled labor is a better job. Higher start higher ceiling and better work conditions. As for the pension, it is only a ~6% rate of return subject to the very real risk of not paying out in full after 30 years, which you can likely achieve a higher return by investing an index fund with the money you pay. The benefit is not better than any other company.
Of course you can mention Tim Horton's or Walmart or somewhere people are getting abused. However have you seen how Walmart employees work, why don't we import workers from the third world. Many new hires I've met in recent times now can't even speak English properly, you get what you pay for.
By the time we retire we might end up with a minimum wage pension, which would be a very lackluster return that could be less than 4% or completely gone to restructure.
It is ludicrous for the corp to offer a 0% wage increase. That is not negotiation, it is abuse and as insulting as the union that asks for a 100% salary raise over a year.
Feb 11th, 2018 7:38 pm
Feb 11th, 2018 7:41 pm
being a new Temp I must say at least in my training class it seemed about 75% were pretty top notch people...now saying that this job at the start damn near broke me....I have worked many crap jobs and many good jobs....never in any job I have ever had have I been left to the wolves as I did in this one....1st shift I was given a full route (all CMB) with 27 slb clearances and 2 RPO drop offs and pick ups....(never was trained on anything to do with RPO and using a manifest)..this shift was the day after the November long weekend....I brought back 2 sections of mail..and on the next day was given the same full route...plus those 2 sections I did not finish....on the 3rd day they finally gave me some help...by the 4th day I got done in 10 hours (although a floater took the RPO's for me)...the following week got worse.....as temps some of us are thrown on to a full route with almost no training and given old header boards and useless maps....being all cmb you are also collating a route with 1500-2000 POC..so daily you are make sets of 400-600 flyers..and if unlucky a mix of apt/HH/bus/ and different postal codes....so even if you are lucky enough to stay on route long enough to learn it you are still stuck collating for an hour or 2 when you get back....the vast majority of my shifts were 12 hours with no break (yes I know you should take breaks but tough when you are new with your probation hanging over your head)..add in it gets really cold filling cmb's especially when you don't have any of the fantastic CP uniforms..you get frozen, cold, wet, hungry and friggin exhausted....while making 19 bucks an hour doing the same job as others making 26 bucks an hour. I am still here and currently working a long term part-time afternoon PO-4 postion (smaller depot so us temps get shoved into open clerk spots..myself on afternoon..3 others got stuck on 4:30am-830am)....so now not only am I only making 19:86/hr..I am only getting 20 hours a week....makes it a tough call to keep this job when I could walk into almost any factory and make the same amount of money with full-time hours..get a uniform/benefits/breaks etc right out of the gate. I have really flown up the temp list in the couple months I have been there so will give it while longer. (2 quit, 1 transferred, 1 went permanent PO4) which basically leaves me 3rd from the top.(but small depot with only 12 routes )...so going to stick it out..see if I can pick up the odd section to go with my part time hours and wait and see what the contract brings....but if the contract is bad you could see a whole crap ton of Temps run to the friggin hills..I mean hell most jobs now start at 15-17 bucks an hour..and that is doing almost anything....LC do a crap ton of work for very little pay as a tempSantaCruz wrote: ↑Feb 9th, 2018 8:10 pmI'm not talking about whether or not they are "regular" people. I'm talking about the quality of Postie's. They are very very slow and don't seem to catch on. And while I expect that to some extent with new people, months will go by, and I see little to no improvement.
This is a reflection of Canada Post. They can't find people willing to do this job. And they treat new people so poorly, that many people just quit because this job isn't worth being treated like that for. So I feel like the last year or so, most of the people I see coming in, seem like CP is drawing from the last barrel because they're desperate. Now implement all the changes they want to make, and who will they hire?
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Feb 13th, 2018 7:29 pm
That is supposed to be the truth. It's right in the collective agreement.
Feb 13th, 2018 9:29 pm
Do you know where I can find that in writing? I would like to grieve this if I can. I received full time permanent status June of 2016, I was expecting a raise June 2017. I contacted HR access and they said I'll be getting it in April 2018. Technically I owned my first route Feb 2017, first bid after the new year.
Feb 13th, 2018 10:31 pm
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Feb 14th, 2018 12:13 pm
12pm for second wave.....that must be fun Nov-Feb....man I am a small depot but being new I was hitting 8pm and that was with 8am start lol....I would be out until midnight if I started at noon!