Carriers out east are delivering yellow pages on foot walks! 3¢ a piece. We can go electric vehicles and pretend to be environmentally sensitive while at the same time filling up customer blue boxes with useless junk.
[Merged] Ask Me About Working For Canada Post
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- Otrosky101
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- May 30, 2019
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- mikebc
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- May 22, 2015
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It's national, we're staging them in Vancouver too. 9 day delivery, starts Monday.
- jonny_fishead
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- Dec 21, 2007
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- moncton
You can't blame Canada Post for going after contracts and delivering a product but I bet 90% of them go straight in the trash, it is pretty ridiculous.Otrosky101 wrote: ↑ Carriers out east are delivering yellow pages on foot walks! 3¢ a piece. We can go electric vehicles and pretend to be environmentally sensitive while at the same time filling up customer blue boxes with useless junk.
Almost as ridiculous as wrapping most magazines we deliver in plastic.
- Bugsy350
- Newbie
- Jun 26, 2019
- 27 posts
- 18 upvotes
I was shocked when I first started working here and saw the amount of crap we put out there. It still seems hard to believe.. I mean I'm sure they work since they can be sent out endlessly to every Canadian with an address. But 99% of people just throw them out and don't want them. I understand how that can be justified financially by the business that pays for the flyers. But how does CP justify inconveniencing millions of people and wasting so much materials? Also a waste of our labor since we spend so much time delivering and collating flyers that could be spent doing actual important stuff to service the country.
Personally I don't mind delivering them, just part of the job to me and if it wasn't for that, half of us would be let go and the people left would have nothing to do except deliver parcels... What I don't get is how we get away with shoving 10+ flyers in peoples mailboxes without any public backlash against CP or some huge social media blow up or something.
Personally I don't mind delivering them, just part of the job to me and if it wasn't for that, half of us would be let go and the people left would have nothing to do except deliver parcels... What I don't get is how we get away with shoving 10+ flyers in peoples mailboxes without any public backlash against CP or some huge social media blow up or something.
- neonlights97
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- Oct 23, 2019
- 61 posts
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Hey guys, term here with about a year's seniority - lots of great info posted here, so I would like to thank and tip my hat off to all of you for the extensive details and advice.
I have a question with regards to a night/overnight part-time shift as a postal clerk/final sort at depots across the city (Montreal and surroundings) - is it worth switching out of the plant for this position?
I have a full-time job already, but would really like to start chipping away at a pension; even with all of IFs and BUTs that come with the CPC pension.
I can't do part-time at the plant, as I cannot afford to accept a day/afternoon shift, even if the chances of me getting a shift like that is slim to none and as I understand, I cannot simply apply for a part-time WEEKEND only shift; they fill whatever position they need, at any time during the day/night of the week.
Thanks for all of your help guys, much appreciated.
I have a question with regards to a night/overnight part-time shift as a postal clerk/final sort at depots across the city (Montreal and surroundings) - is it worth switching out of the plant for this position?
I have a full-time job already, but would really like to start chipping away at a pension; even with all of IFs and BUTs that come with the CPC pension.
I can't do part-time at the plant, as I cannot afford to accept a day/afternoon shift, even if the chances of me getting a shift like that is slim to none and as I understand, I cannot simply apply for a part-time WEEKEND only shift; they fill whatever position they need, at any time during the day/night of the week.
Thanks for all of your help guys, much appreciated.
- 33966
- Deal Expert
- Nov 19, 2005
- 16185 posts
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- RedFlagDeals!
Thanks for the yellow pages heads up. I think my route should be ok if its anything like last year only businesses got them and I have an ok amount. Residences and yellow pages on the other hand...
Money, Religion, Sex and Politics is what it is all about!
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99% Tryhard I've got hardwood flooring downstairs...if you know what I am talking about
- mikebc
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- May 22, 2015
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I guess I'll push for a trainee next week. Give away someone from my hockey pool to move up the opportunity list.
- chelsea26
- Newbie
- Aug 14, 2019
- 2 posts
Who here has applied as holiday season postal clerk from November 15- January 15?
What's the hiring process?
I did applied online in August and took exam in September and got an email for fingerprinting in September but till now no interview and haven't heard from them.
What's the hiring process?
I did applied online in August and took exam in September and got an email for fingerprinting in September but till now no interview and haven't heard from them.
- PeculiarChap
- Newbie
- Dec 7, 2014
- 36 posts
- 9 upvotes
Heya,
How are you all? I've been quiet for a while.
Anyway, I am now Full Time (Yay!) Unassigned.
No luck yet on Bidding results, I did bid on some reputable Bad Routes but still lost to colleagues a few months senior than me.
Anyway, I am currently lacking confidence in taking overtime, it's different when I was a casual cause the workload was just given to me, but now I have to sign up for overtime, and I feel like I will bite more than I can chew, It's so weird.
My issue is I want to ensure I get to deliver all that I will be taking out - so far I am assigned to wave 2 routes, see.
Any advice on how to finish multiple routes? When I was casual I only do one or two parts and the parcel overtimes, Now I have a full route to cover - see. I get to finish the route within 8 hours so I don't do OT just doing my route alone - but I aint that quick as the rest yet where they are done in 4 or 5 hours thus can do additional routes as overtime.
I'll be assigned to a CMB + Apartment route next month, I think I will be faster then (Currently on a walk route) so I may start taking OT.
But No rush since peak season is coming.... next thing I know I will be the one asking for Parcel support, ha!
How are you all? I've been quiet for a while.
Anyway, I am now Full Time (Yay!) Unassigned.
No luck yet on Bidding results, I did bid on some reputable Bad Routes but still lost to colleagues a few months senior than me.
Anyway, I am currently lacking confidence in taking overtime, it's different when I was a casual cause the workload was just given to me, but now I have to sign up for overtime, and I feel like I will bite more than I can chew, It's so weird.
My issue is I want to ensure I get to deliver all that I will be taking out - so far I am assigned to wave 2 routes, see.
Any advice on how to finish multiple routes? When I was casual I only do one or two parts and the parcel overtimes, Now I have a full route to cover - see. I get to finish the route within 8 hours so I don't do OT just doing my route alone - but I aint that quick as the rest yet where they are done in 4 or 5 hours thus can do additional routes as overtime.
I'll be assigned to a CMB + Apartment route next month, I think I will be faster then (Currently on a walk route) so I may start taking OT.
But No rush since peak season is coming.... next thing I know I will be the one asking for Parcel support, ha!
- ashbridge12
- Jr. Member
- Nov 24, 2017
- 127 posts
- 175 upvotes
- GTA
I have a couple of really big mailrooms on my current route, each one of them servicing 40-floor condos. 400 mailboxes in one and 350 in the other.Bugsy350 wrote: ↑ I was shocked when I first started working here and saw the amount of crap we put out there. It still seems hard to believe.. I mean I'm sure they work since they can be sent out endlessly to every Canadian with an address. But 99% of people just throw them out and don't want them. I understand how that can be justified financially by the business that pays for the flyers. But how does CP justify inconveniencing millions of people and wasting so much materials? Also a waste of our labor since we spend so much time delivering and collating flyers that could be spent doing actual important stuff to service the country.
Personally I don't mind delivering them, just part of the job to me and if it wasn't for that, half of us would be let go and the people left would have nothing to do except deliver parcels... What I don't get is how we get away with shoving 10+ flyers in peoples mailboxes without any public backlash against CP or some huge social media blow up or something.
Building management for both keep big receptacles (ostensibly for recycling) in the area where residents collect their mail. It’s not uncommon for me to be delivering there between 5-6pm when lots of people are getting home from work and checking their boxes. I often exit the mailrooms to see at least 3/4 of the admail I’ve just finished delivering already dumped before I’ve even left. There’s no refuge to be found in ‘out of sight, out of mind.’ It’s right there staring you in the face.
It’s a bit of an obscenity in my humble opinion. Even leaving aside the labour for nothing. Inside workers spending hours unloading the crap and hauling it around the depot. LC’s spending hours collating and delivering the stuff. And it all goes in the trash within the space of a day….apart from that one old woman you meet on your walk who asks you for two of everything.
I’m happy to be employed, I understand flyers are a source of revenue for CP and the printing companies that make them, and that corporations and businesses wouldn’t keep cranking them out if they didn’t have a measurable effect on commerce. I get all that. But “neighbourhood mail” shouldn’t be the official euphemism for flyers. They should just drop the pretense and call it “landfill liner.”
- timetotellthetruth
- Deal Addict
- Oct 16, 2014
- 3193 posts
- 2473 upvotes
- at the chiropractors
As much as we all hate flyers, and the environmental impact that they have, it is an important source of revenue for CP. As you mentioned, it obviously still works for the advertisers, so I think that the bigger problem is, why don't customers that immediately throw them in the trash, simply put on a no flyers sticker. I mean, CP isn't going to promote that view, but for all of the environmental groups out there, you would think that one of them would start a big campaign spreading this very message.... Imagine the impact that could have on reducing waste!!!!ashbridge12 wrote: ↑ I have a couple of really big mailrooms on my current route, each one of them servicing 40-floor condos. 400 mailboxes in one and 350 in the other.
Building management for both keep big receptacles (ostensibly for recycling) in the area where residents collect their mail. It’s not uncommon for me to be delivering there between 5-6pm when lots of people are getting home from work and checking their boxes. I often exit the mailrooms to see at least 3/4 of the admail I’ve just finished delivering already dumped before I’ve even left. There’s no refuge to be found in ‘out of sight, out of mind.’ It’s right there staring you in the face.
It’s a bit of an obscenity in my humble opinion. Even leaving aside the labour for nothing. Inside workers spending hours unloading the crap and hauling it around the depot. LC’s spending hours collating and delivering the stuff. And it all goes in the trash within the space of a day….apart from that one old woman you meet on your walk who asks you for two of everything.
I’m happy to be employed, I understand flyers are a source of revenue for CP and the printing companies that make them, and that corporations and businesses wouldn’t keep cranking them out if they didn’t have a measurable effect on commerce. I get all that. But “neighbourhood mail” shouldn’t be the official euphemism for flyers. They should just drop the pretense and call it “landfill liner.”
Sometimes the truth hurts. The other times it hurts worse....
- kehfun
- Jr. Member
- Feb 4, 2016
- 165 posts
- 60 upvotes
- Vancouver, BC
Anyone think our Union will get us a decent contract? Think there will be any fix in the pay structures for 2013+ since rsmc now got equal pay?
Thinking of jumping ship next year once i find out what kind of contract we get. Have almost 4 years seniority too and own a pretty good walk in my opinion. I love the people I work with but I can't survive on this 21 an HR bs plus all the aches and pains I am getting from this job and I'm still in my 20's god dammit. With all the ot (17.08 not 15.08) and my flyer "bonus" I make what a regular carrier makes without doing any additional work.
Thinking of jumping ship next year once i find out what kind of contract we get. Have almost 4 years seniority too and own a pretty good walk in my opinion. I love the people I work with but I can't survive on this 21 an HR bs plus all the aches and pains I am getting from this job and I'm still in my 20's god dammit. With all the ot (17.08 not 15.08) and my flyer "bonus" I make what a regular carrier makes without doing any additional work.
- airmail
- Deal Fanatic
- May 5, 2008
- 6312 posts
- 3088 upvotes
- Manitoba
Make sure everyone fills out Employee survey
- RoxanneA61321
- Newbie
- Oct 23, 2019
- 2 posts
Going in for a term courier interview. What should I expect? And if hired what is the typical training schedule? How many hours per week should I expect to take on once training is complete?
- pike18
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- May 2, 2012
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It’s not really the CUPW’s job to, “get” us a better contract at this point. It seems that they have reasonably presented our case to the arbitrator and have been countering most of CPCs claims effectively. I don’t know how they will determine pay increase in arbitration, but it seems like work flows such as the 2(3) bundle method have been ruled on and ignored by CPC for so long, will be our best chance to actually improve the job. If CPC is forced to give us time value to actually sort all the sequenced mail (I don’t do it personally), this would drastically improve time values and shorten walks considerably.kehfun wrote: ↑ Anyone think our Union will get us a decent contract? Think there will be any fix in the pay structures for 2013+ since rsmc now got equal pay?
Thinking of jumping ship next year once i find out what kind of contract we get. Have almost 4 years seniority too and own a pretty good walk in my opinion. I love the people I work with but I can't survive on this 21 an HR bs plus all the aches and pains I am getting from this job and I'm still in my 20's god dammit. With all the ot (17.08 not 15.08) and my flyer "bonus" I make what a regular carrier makes without doing any additional work.
- timetotellthetruth
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- Oct 16, 2014
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- at the chiropractors
Considering that it will be another result given by an arbitrator that was appointed by either a Con or a LIb, I am just immediately going under the assumption that we will generally get screwed....pike18 wrote: ↑ It’s not really the CUPW’s job to, “get” us a better contract at this point. It seems that they have reasonably presented our case to the arbitrator and have been countering most of CPCs claims effectively. I don’t know how they will determine pay increase in arbitration, but it seems like work flows such as the 2(3) bundle method have been ruled on and ignored by CPC for so long, will be our best chance to actually improve the job. If CPC is forced to give us time value to actually sort all the sequenced mail (I don’t do it personally), this would drastically improve time values and shorten walks considerably.
Sometimes the truth hurts. The other times it hurts worse....
- Otrosky101
- Banned
- May 30, 2019
- 190 posts
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Yep, and then CUPW can begin it's next "list of demands" for the next contract, maybe more gains for rsmcs and more catalogs for letter carriers to lug around on foot walkstimetotellthetruth wrote: ↑ Considering that it will be another result given by an arbitrator that was appointed by either a Con or a LIb, I am just immediately going under the assumption that we will generally get screwed....
- pike18
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- May 2, 2012
- 960 posts
- 515 upvotes
- STONEY CREEK
Sadly, I think you’re right. Looking objectively at it, I don’t know how an arbitrator could rule in favour of the corpse on something specific like 2(3) bundle because of how obviously it has already been decided in the past. That being said, I’m starting to think that this type of arbitration is the best chance we have at a, “fair” contract. CUPW and CPC are so far apart on seemingly every issue that this appears to be the only way to have any real positive movement to an amicable deal.timetotellthetruth wrote: ↑ Considering that it will be another result given by an arbitrator that was appointed by either a Con or a LIb, I am just immediately going under the assumption that we will generally get screwed....
- pike18
- Sr. Member
- May 2, 2012
- 960 posts
- 515 upvotes
- STONEY CREEK
Technically we create the list of demands through our locals. This is part of the reason there are so many and some are so wild. The whole community power movement seems like total virtue signalling on our part. I don’t know why a Union feels it necessary to push any agenda other than one which is beneficial for workers and the company’s ability to allow for mutually positive change.Otrosky101 wrote: ↑ Yep, and then CUPW can begin it's next "list of demands" for the next contract, maybe more gains for rsmcs and more catalogs for letter carriers to lug around on foot walks
The gain for RSMCs should never have needed to be, “negotiated” in contract talks because it’s a legal pay equity issue. Although I applaud CUPW for forcing CPCs hand by expediting the process through negotiations.
The flyer situation is only ridiculous because delivering flyers are contractually separate from regular mail delivery and this not included in time values. I think the next mountain to climb should be having them included in route construction for % of coverage and weight. CPC always harps on the importance of following a route’s travel line, but then expects us to magically figure out how to adapt to carrying 150 POC of wow guides.
- Otrosky101
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- May 30, 2019
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No, going full CMbs is the only solution if we are going after more and heavier flyers. Unless the "health and safety" CUPW preaches is completely bs.....
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