With so much volume already, does anyone expect weekend parcels from now until January?
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- sunvv
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- mikebc
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3 months for FT perm in Burnaby. Some of those just offered positions aren't eligible for uniforms yet.
Meanwhile, looking back on my 4 years as a term......
Oh well, more OT for me. The staffer gets 3 RLCs who can only do 2 sections each, good luck with that.
Meanwhile, looking back on my 4 years as a term......
Oh well, more OT for me. The staffer gets 3 RLCs who can only do 2 sections each, good luck with that.
- timetotellthetruth
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Wasn't Vancouver hiring directly to full-time positions?
Sometimes the truth hurts. The other times it hurts worse....
- mikebc
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Vancouver main was. This is the metro area. The bleed is spreading.
- Bugsy350
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I have a hypothetical situation I was wondering about. Never got a satisfiying answer yet. So since a route it supposed to be your 8 hours and flyers aren't necessarily part of that.. Why aren't you allowed to do it in 6 (if it's an easy day) then take a long 2 hour break and arrive back at the depot exactly in time to do your flyers for overtime?
I know its not really a thing that most people would ever want to actually do, including myself. And seems like a greedy move to pull. but anyone know why exactly it isn't allowed?
In line with this, I'm also wondering if they are allowed to question you about your reason for overtime if your back before your 8 hours, with flyers being the only reason you did overtime. Are they allowed to say for example "you could've unloaded your truck quicker and finished in 7.5 hours, and then finished your flyers within 8" or say your sort was too long, etc.
I feel like this is a grey area but shouldn't be.
I know its not really a thing that most people would ever want to actually do, including myself. And seems like a greedy move to pull. but anyone know why exactly it isn't allowed?
In line with this, I'm also wondering if they are allowed to question you about your reason for overtime if your back before your 8 hours, with flyers being the only reason you did overtime. Are they allowed to say for example "you could've unloaded your truck quicker and finished in 7.5 hours, and then finished your flyers within 8" or say your sort was too long, etc.
I feel like this is a grey area but shouldn't be.
- Guest092383484
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There is nothing stopping you from doing that. You could walk slower too. Although eventually you will have words with staffing about OT. At some point they will put a term on your flyers to play your game a bit, I have even seen them say bring mail back so you don't run into that situation.
Think about it though, you sit there and waste two or three hours waiting for an hour of overtime to do your Flyers. That means you only value your time at like 10-15 bucks an hour. Th However, coming back half hour, 45 minutes early is always a good time to gas up the truck if you know what I mean.
Carefull what you do in a company truck, driving off route comes with risks.
Think about it though, you sit there and waste two or three hours waiting for an hour of overtime to do your Flyers. That means you only value your time at like 10-15 bucks an hour. Th However, coming back half hour, 45 minutes early is always a good time to gas up the truck if you know what I mean.
Carefull what you do in a company truck, driving off route comes with risks.
- mikebc
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If I'm not mistaken routes have collation time built into the sort section. You also get overassessed pay if your route triggered the new collation values we got under the agreement to halve our flyer pay.
If that is the case, you'd be disciplined for time theft unless your sort and load legitimately went over 1.75 hours.
Prior to this change flyer OT had to be approved. Once they restructure routes using the new values I imagine they'll roll back the unapproved OT stance.
If that is the case, you'd be disciplined for time theft unless your sort and load legitimately went over 1.75 hours.
Prior to this change flyer OT had to be approved. Once they restructure routes using the new values I imagine they'll roll back the unapproved OT stance.
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- mikebc
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LCAs or PO4s? Smells like a grievance if the latter.
- gotwgoty
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In our depot, if you get back and collate flyers and it gets you into OT, then they pay you OT. Like Mike said though.. people who this happens to all the time will get their flyers collated for them alot. I took an inside assignment as a term my first xmas and I spent the whole week almost collating flyers and doing the odd section. Maybe it wasn;t an assignment but they had me extended so needed me to do something.
- Bugsy350
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Ah I see, well thanks for the info. I guess that sorta clears things up aha. That particular situation doesn't really matter anyway.. for one I'm not that fast and two, like you mentioned, who wants to sit in a van for hours. Or better yet walk around town in fluorescent yellow with people asking you if your going to strike again or handing you random letters.
I just thought of it when I was on a route for a while that was designed in a way that it could only ever be finished 30 mins early. And I'd feel guilty getting gas or stopping to get a coffee to power me through the last hour of 10 set flyer collating. But I had no reason to since I'd go non stop without breaks up until that point. But it made me wonder what exactly the rules with that were.
I just thought of it when I was on a route for a while that was designed in a way that it could only ever be finished 30 mins early. And I'd feel guilty getting gas or stopping to get a coffee to power me through the last hour of 10 set flyer collating. But I had no reason to since I'd go non stop without breaks up until that point. But it made me wonder what exactly the rules with that were.
- jonny_fishead
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I don't know what the rules are but imo you are better off taking the 2 hours and saving the flyers for for the next morning, keep doing it that way until you are into OT then do the next days flyers.Bugsy350 wrote: ↑ Ah I see, well thanks for the info. I guess that sorta clears things up aha. That particular situation doesn't really matter anyway.. for one I'm not that fast and two, like you mentioned, who wants to sit in a van for hours. Or better yet walk around town in fluorescent yellow with people asking you if your going to strike again or handing you random letters.
I just thought of it when I was on a route for a while that was designed in a way that it could only ever be finished 30 mins early. And I'd feel guilty getting gas or stopping to get a coffee to power me through the last hour of 10 set flyer collating. But I had no reason to since I'd go non stop without breaks up until that point. But it made me wonder what exactly the rules with that were.
- biggerthanfun
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What are the rules concerning delivering a walk with a section from the prior day left in the case? I know they have to pull the section before any new mail goes in and that section goes out on OT,but what if you choose to deliver it with the whole route? Do you get the full 1.75?
- mikebc
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15.08 is paid by the minute not the section so negotiate with a supervisor. Usually 1 hour per section since "you're going there anyway". If you push for 1.75 they'll probably just give it to a term, your call how much you want to ask for.
For example when I do 2 days mail on overtime I charge 3 hours a section.
For example when I do 2 days mail on overtime I charge 3 hours a section.
- timetotellthetruth
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As Mike says, I would negotiate a minimum amount of o/t that can be claimed, even if you can make it back within your 8 hours, usually less than the 1.75.....biggerthanfun wrote: ↑ What are the rules concerning delivering a walk with a section from the prior day left in the case? I know they have to pull the section before any new mail goes in and that section goes out on OT,but what if you choose to deliver it with the whole route? Do you get the full 1.75?
Sometimes the truth hurts. The other times it hurts worse....
- PavementPounder
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Here in southern Ontario, we had been instructed to leave a section in the case due to snow and ice this week. But, route owners were expected to take it out the next day with the next days mail. No terms. No OT. Old school walk with relays here.....not that it makes a diffy.
- timetotellthetruth
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I am just going to say that ^^^^^ is bulls##t. I totally understand that if conditions are bad, terms may not get it all done (even when conditions aren't bad for that matter), but there are a lot of terms that could probably still do it, or even most of it. For management to deliberately leave it for the "next guy", is crappola. Shouldn't we at least......"try"? (Not yelling at you pavement....)PavementPounder wrote: ↑ Here in southern Ontario, we had been instructed to leave a section in the case due to snow and ice this week. But, route owners were expected to take it out the next day with the next days mail. No terms. No OT. Old school walk with relays here.....not that it makes a diffy.
Sometimes the truth hurts. The other times it hurts worse....
- fishingaddict17
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Questions for those that use the studded Neos. Are they any more comfortable than the provided slip-on cleats? Any other pros/cons? If you are wearing them, which style did you buy?
- PavementPounder
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So the arbitrator asked for an extension all the way out till June 2020. Un-friggin- believable.
3 peak seasons without a new contract? I'm new but this is eye-opening.
3 peak seasons without a new contract? I'm new but this is eye-opening.