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There is a letter from Canada Post interim CEO addressed specifically to letter carriers, talking about changes to how overtime will be dealt with, starting immediately.
Anyone see this letter yet or can post a copy? Apparently the 15.08 forms for OT are going to be simplified, and we will no longer have to inform supervisors at the beginning of the day that we will be doing OT. The CEO recognizes that parcel volumes are on the rise, and that they contribute to overtime.

This is good news, because we all hate having to work 10-12 hours and then get harassed by supervisors who claim we can't do our job properly.
My question is, what is going to be done for the holiday season coming up? Parcel volumes are going to be, once again, record-setting volumes. That's great that I can now do OT without any questions asked, but that still doesn't solve the problem of me being overloaded and overburdened every day, working over 8 hours.

What I need during the holiday season, is some relief. I need parcels taken off my route, or a split. I can't constantly work overtime every day. So will I now be harassed when I say I'm too sick/tired to do overtime? Their reasoning will be "hey, we have made it EASY for you to claim OT, so don't tell me you can't do OT". Hope not...
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LONDON
CanadaProud wrote:
Aug 2nd, 2018 11:54 pm
actually you are misconstruing the facebook post about the neo-Nazi hate group signs. The Map of Canada flag is the Canadian coalition of Concerned citizens which is a far-right/alt right group ...the "union jack" was actually the Canadian Red Ensign flag which has been adopted by neo-Nazi alt-right groups in Canada(used because they want a 1920's type of Canada I assume?). Yes I agree that the pro-Palestine posts are dumb..but likewise so would be pro-Israel posts that you seem to want to see on the forum....for every "innocent" Israel person killed like you mention there have been a lot of Palestinians innocently killed..including recent shooting of a Paramedic. Both side have done horrible things and honestly the Union should take neither sides...
yep, CUPW uses our dues to push political propaganda. They need to dissolve as a union and form a hippie political party, How much support would they get from Canadians? Far less than 1%. Thats how pathetic their ideas are.
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suspicious package at one Montreal depo.. I'm trying to figure out which one it is, I start soon and if it's at my depo, I know shit will be back logged the entire day lol
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CanadaProud wrote:
Aug 2nd, 2018 11:54 pm
actually you are misconstruing the facebook post about the neo-Nazi hate group signs. The Map of Canada flag is the Canadian coalition of Concerned citizens which is a far-right/alt right group ...the "union jack" was actually the Canadian Red Ensign flag which has been adopted by neo-Nazi alt-right groups in Canada(used because they want a 1920's type of Canada I assume?). Yes I agree that the pro-Palestine posts are dumb..but likewise so would be pro-Israel posts that you seem to want to see on the forum....for every "innocent" Israel person killed like you mention there have been a lot of Palestinians innocently killed..including recent shooting of a Paramedic. Both side have done horrible things and honestly the Union should take neither sides...
Well look at this guy here actually agreeing with the union communist thugs that the Ensign flag is now a neo nazi symbol. That flag is what our brothers and sisters wore while fighting the first and second world war. That flag is present in all war memorials and many Canadians still fly that flag outside their houses and inside their homes in honor of our history and you people try to minimalism its symbolism and what it really represents by equating it with neo nazisism because some conservatives ( which you deemd to be alt right) waved it in a rally or something.Then you go out of your way and tell other people that if they ever see it in public that they should tear it down and rip it up or call their local antifa anarchists to come and destroy it for them. Not surprising coming from the same union thugs who tried to tell union members that wearing a red poppy during remembrance day is offensive and shouldn't be done. I would rather the union not get political and take stances on a war in the middle east and instead focus on the struggle of the Canadian workers .
To be honest I think we need new leadership it's about time we kicked the current leadership out. The longer they are here the more the general public will hate us and the less we will get at the bargaining table.

Here is our union president wearing a Che Guevara communist shirt giving a speech a few weeks back. Unlike edgy teenagers he knows what Che was all about.
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Aug 12, 2017
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look I am not condoning the people that said they should rip it down...I am simply saying that your "union Jack" was actually the Red Ensign flag and regardless of how you want to spin it the flag has been adopted by Canadian Alt-Right/Neo-Nazi groups....Once a symbol had been adopted by either far-right OR far-left groups it becomes a dicey prospect to support it in anyway...for example the swastika used to be used in many societies with many different good meanings.....go walk down the street now and see what kind of reaction you get....I have never liked that the Union getting behind things pushing far left socialism as when you go far enough left you are in the same boat as people who went too far right...one could argue political ideology is like a horseshoe..where the two furthest ends are actually closer then the majority....don't have to look far Antifa and Alt-right are the same beast looking at each other in a mirror. But really if you don't like the direction of the Union and it's leadership..well they elect leaders every year..step up.
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CanadaProud wrote:
Aug 3rd, 2018 5:52 pm
look I am not condoning the people that said they should rip it down...I am simply saying that your "union Jack" was actually the Red Ensign flag and regardless of how you want to spin it the flag has been adopted by Canadian Alt-Right/Neo-Nazi groups....Once a symbol had been adopted by either far-right OR far-left groups it becomes a dicey prospect to support it in anyway...for example the swastika used to be used in many societies with many different good meanings.....go walk down the street now and see what kind of reaction you get....I have never liked that the Union getting behind things pushing far left socialism as when you go far enough left you are in the same boat as people who went too far right...one could argue political ideology is like a horseshoe..where the two furthest ends are actually closer then the majority....don't have to look far Antifa and Alt-right are the same beast looking at each other in a mirror. But really if you don't like the direction of the Union and it's leadership..well they elect leaders every year..step up.
Ya i would agree with you if the alt right/ nazis in Canada were actually a threat. In reality the far right nazis are literally just a handful of people living in the boonies who even CSIS considers not a threat to Canadians.
"As a result of a CSIS internal review, which found that the majority of right-wing extremism activities consisted of, or were “near to,” lawful protest, advocacy, and dissent (see highlighted text below), CSIS determined that the current threat environment no longer met the threshold of a CSIS investigation. In addition, CSIS also determined that the public order threat (versus the national security threat) was being appropriately addressed by law enforcement and it questioned the value added of its efforts. CSIS ended its investigation of right-wing extremism in March 2016."
http://www.sirc-csars.gc.ca/anrran/2017 ... ection_2_4
Most of the "alt right " people online are just trolls who love to just push the authoritarian lefts buttons and watch them implode. No one actually is a Nazi, now that i think about it I've never seen one real life Nazi in my life but I've seen a fair bit of radical leftists all throughout my college, work and at varying protests. The left love to label anyone who doesn't agree with them as right wing fascists just so they can justify their actions they commit.
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Jul 6, 2017
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fishscale4sale wrote:
Aug 3rd, 2018 7:17 am
There is a letter from Canada Post interim CEO addressed specifically to letter carriers, talking about changes to how overtime will be dealt with, starting immediately.
Anyone see this letter yet or can post a copy? Apparently the 15.08 forms for OT are going to be simplified, and we will no longer have to inform supervisors at the beginning of the day that we will be doing OT. The CEO recognizes that parcel volumes are on the rise, and that they contribute to overtime.

This is good news, because we all hate having to work 10-12 hours and then get harassed by supervisors who claim we can't do our job properly.
My question is, what is going to be done for the holiday season coming up? Parcel volumes are going to be, once again, record-setting volumes. That's great that I can now do OT without any questions asked, but that still doesn't solve the problem of me being overloaded and overburdened every day, working over 8 hours.

What I need during the holiday season, is some relief. I need parcels taken off my route, or a split. I can't constantly work overtime every day. So will I now be harassed when I say I'm too sick/tired to do overtime? Their reasoning will be "hey, we have made it EASY for you to claim OT, so don't tell me you can't do OT". Hope not...
Here are some highlights from the letter:

"...the increasing number of parcels on routes is placing unprecedented demands on carriers."

"...Working overtime to complete an unusual number of deliveries is not a disciplinary issue...We know that the amount of overtime worked overall in the system is typically an indication of managing the increased load of parcels on routes. It should not be perceived as an issue of trust between carriers and supervisors."

"...management's performance targets will be amended to ensure the responsibility to meet budget outcomes is not linked to how overtime is managed."

"...we are committed to creating a new route management system to align with the growing demand of parcel delivery..."

All very encouraging! I also like how she refers to us as carriers and not delivery agents.
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panivi7 wrote:
Aug 3rd, 2018 6:28 pm
Ya i would agree with you if the alt right/ nazis in Canada were actually a threat. In reality the far right nazis are literally just a handful of people living in the boonies who even CSIS considers not a threat to Canadians.
"As a result of a CSIS internal review, which found that the majority of right-wing extremism activities consisted of, or were “near to,” lawful protest, advocacy, and dissent (see highlighted text below), CSIS determined that the current threat environment no longer met the threshold of a CSIS investigation. In addition, CSIS also determined that the public order threat (versus the national security threat) was being appropriately addressed by law enforcement and it questioned the value added of its efforts. CSIS ended its investigation of right-wing extremism in March 2016."
http://www.sirc-csars.gc.ca/anrran/2017 ... ection_2_4
Most of the "alt right " people online are just trolls who love to just push the authoritarian lefts buttons and watch them implode. No one actually is a Nazi, now that i think about it I've never seen one real life Nazi in my life but I've seen a fair bit of radical leftists all throughout my college, work and at varying protests. The left love to label anyone who doesn't agree with them as right wing fascists just so they can justify their actions they commit.
CSIS kind of dropped the ball on that one in Quebec last year. On a side note you are saying "the left" the same way they say "the right"...I recently moved back from Chicago area where I lived for a decade...trust me we don't want to go down that current road being paved South of our border. I mean across from my kids school some guy flew a 20 foot confederate flag....so how should one explain that to the black kids in school? I agree in Canada the far-right are few and far between but they are not collecting in the boonies (well except the ones in BC) Quebec is getting quite a few and then you get clowns like the Rebel media guys and it spreads. Especially recently with a growing number of quite public harassment of anyone with even the look of being Islamic...hell London Ontario!!! I would have never expected to see the crap going on there that I have seen since I moved back. I totally understand your view of CUPW going way too far to the left but most Unions do..but like I said if you want it changed it is actually very easy to do...find some like minded individuals..go to meeting..get nominated and elected and change it from within.....but a Union itself is basically a unit that fights against capitalism...and CUPW is a friggin big Union...either that or try and get Unifor to poach our Urban unit.
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Dec 21, 2007
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moncton
fishscale4sale wrote:
Aug 3rd, 2018 7:17 am
There is a letter from Canada Post interim CEO addressed specifically to letter carriers, talking about changes to how overtime will be dealt with, starting immediately.
Anyone see this letter yet or can post a copy? Apparently the 15.08 forms for OT are going to be simplified, and we will no longer have to inform supervisors at the beginning of the day that we will be doing OT. The CEO recognizes that parcel volumes are on the rise, and that they contribute to overtime.

This is good news, because we all hate having to work 10-12 hours and then get harassed by supervisors who claim we can't do our job properly.
My question is, what is going to be done for the holiday season coming up? Parcel volumes are going to be, once again, record-setting volumes. That's great that I can now do OT without any questions asked, but that still doesn't solve the problem of me being overloaded and overburdened every day, working over 8 hours.

What I need during the holiday season, is some relief. I need parcels taken off my route, or a split. I can't constantly work overtime every day. So will I now be harassed when I say I'm too sick/tired to do overtime? Their reasoning will be "hey, we have made it EASY for you to claim OT, so don't tell me you can't do OT". Hope not...
Fighting for 8 hour days (without being harassed) should be a top priority ask for the union.
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Mar 11, 2016
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Toronto
A pay increase would be nice...haven't heard any mention of that anywhere by the union or Corp.
RFD4LF. 😎
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PtsuckS wrote:
Aug 4th, 2018 11:08 am
A pay increase would be nice...haven't heard any mention of that anywhere by the union or Corp.
That is the last thing on their list..cupw has their own agenda palestine and their so called vision( postal banking and a hybrid fleet) and increase time values and reduce pay.
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onatrio
quote=Bleys007 post_id=7123886 time=1216468774 user_id=100319]
I've recently gone through the hiring process with Canada Post and have been a letter carrier for a month.

If you're interested about the hiring/training to be a letter carrier, or what the job is like (it's more complicated than just going door to door and putting mail in a box) ask here, and I'll do what I can to answer.
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onatrio
good luck with that..my guess will get slightly lower than we make now
PtsuckS wrote:
Aug 4th, 2018 11:08 am
A pay increase would be nice...haven't heard any mention of that anywhere by the union or Corp.
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Dec 21, 2007
832 posts
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moncton
Just word of mouth but I heard the corp is asking to screw new hires even more for less money and longer to get top rate.

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