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trellaine201 wrote:
Nov 19th, 2018 4:05 pm
What a mess. Complete sadness. I’m beginning to be lost for words to the surprise of some on here. :(

Maybe they should fire everyone involved! Union and Canada post negotiators.
This is definitely hard on us. If you find this all to be too depressing, where it is affecting your health, my advice is to stay away from this site and any online means of seeing this process take place. Just focus on the fact the you are still going to work (most days), and still getting paid, and that is all that really matters. Put your head down, focus on getting the mail out and be proud of another successful work day!!! And don't forget, you are not in this alone, we are all suffering with you....
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Thanks. I actually took a few days away from everything on the weekend. It was quite therepeutic. But back at work and more and more stuff in the news.
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Yes Virginia there is a 30km walk! ... on paper anyway.
In column 6a on route LC0047 is 178.29 minutes. That’s the length of my walk if I didn’t do any POC according to my header. At 3 mph or around 5km per hour walking that translates into around 15 km. I measured on google maps to make sure and it was about 15 km. In column 5 it has 110.67 minutes or 53.20 percent of coverage of column 4, the time it would take if I do every door at 100% coverage. So a little under 2 hours to walk to 53.20% of my doors or about 9km. That’s 24km but with one third flyers your looking at 100% + 53.20%+53.20% / 3 = 68.8% coverage or 207.91@ 68.8%=138.8 minutes or 12km. Now I’m “walking” 27 km. Full coverage it’s 32 km!
Why did I pick such a crummy 6.5 hours of walking,on a heavy day, route you may ask or why am I not dead yet? That’s because I love the view of the Saint Laurent river I have. Oh yeah, I have never walked more than 16 km even on Election Card day.
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trellaine201 wrote:
Nov 19th, 2018 4:20 pm
Thanks. I actually took a few days away from everything on the weekend. It was quite therepeutic. But back at work and more and more stuff in the news.
Lucky where I work, everyone hustles in the morning to get there routes up and get out of the depot before anyone comes by with any union propaganda.

The job is still good, once you escape the depot misery.
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leyland1989 wrote:
Nov 19th, 2018 4:00 pm
https://infopost.ca/cupw-urban/canada-p ... -proposal/

I don't see how it is better, hahaha.
After the holidays, they can lock us out all they want. And we will be crying for a contract for much less.
Dear Jessica,

I almost can't believe the upper management is this @#@$#@. Took out binding arbitration? Ok. Great. What don't you understand about that we are tired of you kicking the can down the road and never dealing with the issues that are staring you in the face. We know, and you know, just when and why the injury rates took off. It is bloody ridiculous already. Why don't you want to fix the @#$@#$ issues? You have been ignoring this for a YEAR (just in negotiations). We don't need another committee to discover the issues. Just more kicking the can. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. SOLVE IT. MONEY DOES NOT COME FIRST OVER THE HEALTH OF YOUR #@$$@ EMPLOYEES!!!!!!! You want to bribe us with a $1000 (less tax), to take away all of our bargaining position? Do you actually believe this is going to work? I am not ever that pro (this) union, and I can tell you the answer....

Let me ask you something. When you were the president of BC Hydro, if your company discovered an issue that was injuring a bunch of your workers, what did you do? Do you send it to a committee to talk about whether or not that sparking electrical cable in the hallway was a hazard (made up scenario), or did you just do what needed to do done to fix the issue? What the heck is it about going to Canada Post management ,makes people lose all sense of right and wrong?

I am going to lose my mind !!!!!! WAAAAAAAA HOOOOOOO BAAAAAAA ZOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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Mailmanwill wrote:
Nov 19th, 2018 4:24 pm
9AB839AA-C9DB-4CE9-9019-7CA7B4B10427.jpegYes Virginia there is a 30km walk! ... on paper anyway.
In column 6a on route LC0047 is 178.29 minutes. That’s the length of my walk if I didn’t do any POC according to my header. At 3 mph or around 5km per hour walking that translates into around 15 km. I measured on google maps to make sure and it was about 15 km. In column 5 it has 110.67 minutes or 53.20 percent of coverage of column 4, the time it would take if I do every door at 100% coverage. So a little under 2 hours to walk to 53.20% of my doors or about 9km. That’s 24km but with one third flyers your looking at 100% + 53.20%+53.20% / 3 = 68.8% coverage or 207.91@ 68.8%=138.8 minutes or 12km. Now I’m “walking” 27 km. Full coverage it’s 32 km!
Why did I pick such a crummy 6.5 hours of walking,on a heavy day, route you may ask or why am I not dead yet? That’s because I love the view of the Saint Laurent river I have. Oh yeah, I have never walked more than 16 km even on Election Card day.
My only advice for you is....if you are going to post on here where your walk is, and therefore who you are......be VERY careful in what you say..... End of message....
Sometimes the truth hurts. The other times it hurts worse....
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timetotellthetruth wrote:
Nov 19th, 2018 4:30 pm
Dear Jessica,

I almost can't believe the upper management is this @#@$#@. Took out binding arbitration? Ok. Great. What don't you understand about that we are tired of you kicking the can down the road and never dealing with the issues that are staring you in the face. We know, and you know, just when and why the injury rates took off. It is bloody ridiculous already. Why don't you want to fix the @#$@#$ issues? You have been ignoring this for a YEAR (just in negotiations). We don't need another committee to discover the issues. Just more kicking the can. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. SOLVE IT. MONEY DOES NOT COME FIRST OVER THE HEALTH OF YOUR #@$$@ EMPLOYEES!!!!!!! You want to bribe us with a $1000 (less tax), to take away all of our bargaining position? Do you actually believe this is going to work? I am not ever that pro (this) union, and I can tell you the answer....

Let me ask you something. When you were the president of BC Hydro, if your company discovered an issue that was injuring a bunch of your workers, what did you do? Do you send it to a committee to talk about whether or not that sparking electrical cable in the hallway was a hazard (made up scenario), or did you just do what needed to do done to fix the issue? What the heck is it about going to Canada Post management ,makes people lose all sense of right and wrong?

I am going to lose my mind !!!!!! WAAAAAAAA HOOOOOOO BAAAAAAA ZOOOOOOO!!!!!!
You need to take your advice and take a break from these discussions.

Look at the other side, can you imagine how 2 parties who supposedly represent us- can **** up something that is really quite simple.

Inept leaders though have nothing to lose, once CANADA Post is privatized they’ll get a golden parachute - so they have nothing to risk here.
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stalbert1 wrote:
Nov 19th, 2018 4:37 pm
You need to take your advice and take a break from these discussions.

Look at the other side, can you imagine how 2 parties who supposedly represent us- can **** up something that is really quite simple.

Inept leaders though have nothing to lose, once CANADA Post is privatized they’ll get a golden parachute - so they have nothing to risk here.
I was thinking that someone would say that as I was typing it....lol. I was laughing to myself as I was thinking it. Nah, I am good. Was just having some fun!!!!! It is very frustrating, but not any more so than the other bunch of "negotiations" that I have been through, if you want to call them that......lol
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timetotellthetruth wrote:
Nov 19th, 2018 4:39 pm
I was thinking that someone would say that as I was typing it....lol. I was laughing to myself as I was thinking it. Nah, I am good. Was just having some fun!!!!! It is very frustrating, but not any more so than the other bunch of "negotiations" that I have been through, if you want to call them that......lol
19 years and as far as I can remember every negotiation has been a shit show- would privatization maybe be so bad after all for newer employees?

Realistically, the union and company have always been pathetic since I started. I’m just lucky I’ve never needed either one as I’m a self starter eliminating the need of most supervisors, and I don’t **** up eliminating CUPW as well.
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I would have buckled and taken the arbitration deal, as long as some rules are put in place to avoid what happened last time. But then again it would probably take another year of negotiating and arbitration to agree on the rules...
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jonny_fishead wrote:
Nov 19th, 2018 5:07 pm
I would have buckled and taken the arbitration deal, as long as some rules are put in place to avoid what happened last time. But then again it would probably take another year of negotiating and arbitration to agree on the rules...
Maybe a 4 year deal isn’t long enough, at this rate we may be back at this table they keep talking about before a deal is finalized.
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stalbert1 wrote:
Nov 19th, 2018 5:11 pm
Maybe a 4 year deal isn’t long enough, at this rate we may be back at this table they keep talking about before a deal is finalized.
3 actually since by the time it’s all sorted it will be February. So really a 3 yr deal :(
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stalbert1 wrote:
Nov 19th, 2018 3:22 pm
Did everyone survive their 30 kilometres walk in the park today?

Since CUPW won’t negotiate and work towards middle ground, I predict we are locked out tomorrow. Probably be out 3 weeks till legislation can pass.
I survived, since I brought back almost 2 splits. 8 hours worked. Hey, at least I got all the parcels/packets done (over 100) and the flyer section done too.

stalbert1, I get why you are frustrated with CUPW. This job is easy to you. You are finished work on a Monday, and posting here at 3:30pm. Your route is either a cake-walk, or you hustle your butt off/come in early/take no breaks/cut corners to get it done. Unfortunately, a lot of other walks/depots across the country are not the same as yours, and not everyone can be as fast as you are. Also, there's no early starts where I work.

And blaming this on CUPW, saying "CUPW won’t negotiate and work towards middle ground"... Does that mean you think CP has been trying to work towards a middle ground? CP is just as much to blame, if not more. I'll say it again: If you hate YOUR union so much, then leave!
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i think hes a corporate troll i wouldnt bother

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