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trellaine201 wrote:
Nov 27th, 2018 1:24 am
Funny thing about all this labor disruption. Those people complaining day after day about bad offers, bad mouthing Canada post etc are some of the same ones taking lots of OT lol
That's only funny if you literally don't understand what money is.
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trellaine201 wrote:
Nov 27th, 2018 1:36 am
if your mad at the corporation why help them?
Because when you work more you get paid more.
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Dec 21, 2007
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moncton
Hopefully we get a sympathiser for an arbitrator and they decide to **** over CP and the Liberals giving us everything we were asking for.
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jonny_fishead wrote:
Nov 27th, 2018 1:54 am
Hopefully we get a sympathiser for an arbitrator and they decide to **** over CP and the Liberals giving us everything we were asking for.
If we get a good deal in arbitration, it's because the liberals made it possible in the way the bill was written. In 2011, it was made impossible.
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Dec 21, 2007
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moncton
No matter what you have to expect some bias, its just human nature. Hell, we have some members posting in here that would give CP everything they are asking for so the odds of the arbitrator being biased in our favor is probably 50-50 at best. The other problem is its mediation-arbitration, we're going to start negotiations with the attitude of a defeated loser that feels like their rights were trampled. So even if the mediator/arbitrator is fair, our own attitude (I'm imagining that of a petulant child) could provoke the arbitrator to side with CP. Mike Palecek or anybody else butt-hurt over this decision should not be part of the negotiation, we should hire professionals.

Also, how is it decided who the mediator/arbitrator is? Games a little rigged if its decided by the same government forcing us back, no?
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jonny_fishead wrote:
Nov 27th, 2018 2:37 am
No matter what you have to expect some bias, its just human nature. Hell, we have some members posting in here that would give CP everything they are asking for so the odds of the arbitrator being biased in our favor is probably 50-50 at best. The other problem is its mediation-arbitration, we're going to start negotiations with the attitude of a defeated loser that feels like their rights were trampled. So even if the mediator/arbitrator is fair, our own attitude (I'm imagining that of a petulant child) could provoke the arbitrator to side with CP. Mike Palecek or anybody else butt-hurt over this decision should not be part of the negotiation, we should hire professionals.

Also, how is it decided who the mediator/arbitrator is? Games a little rigged if its decided by the same government forcing us back, no?
I don't know the exact mechanism but I don't think the govt picks the arbitrator.
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Nov 11, 2018
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jonny_fishead wrote:
Nov 27th, 2018 2:37 am
No matter what you have to expect some bias, its just human nature. Hell, we have some members posting in here that would give CP everything they are asking for so the odds of the arbitrator being biased in our favor is probably 50-50 at best. The other problem is its mediation-arbitration, we're going to start negotiations with the attitude of a defeated loser that feels like their rights were trampled. So even if the mediator/arbitrator is fair, our own attitude (I'm imagining that of a petulant child) could provoke the arbitrator to side with CP. Mike Palecek or anybody else butt-hurt over this decision should not be part of the negotiation, we should hire professionals.

Also, how is it decided who the mediator/arbitrator is? Games a little rigged if its decided by the same government forcing us back, no?
Lists of candidates
8 (1) The employer and the union may, within two days after the day on which this Act comes into force, each provide to the Minister a list of the names of up to three individuals that the employer or union, as the case may be, considers qualified to act as mediator-arbitrator.
Appointment of mediator-arbitrator
(2) If the two lists have only one name in common, the Minister must appoint that individual as the mediator-arbitrator, and if they have more than one name in common, he or she must appoint one of those individuals. However, if the Minister does not receive both lists within the period referred to in subsection (1), or if the lists that are received within that period have no names in common, he or she must appoint the mediator-arbitrator after seeking advice from the Chairperson of the Canada Industrial Relations Board.
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Dec 21, 2007
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moncton
Dude31 wrote:
Nov 27th, 2018 7:28 am
Lists of candidates
8 (1) The employer and the union may, within two days after the day on which this Act comes into force, each provide to the Minister a list of the names of up to three individuals that the employer or union, as the case may be, considers qualified to act as mediator-arbitrator.
Appointment of mediator-arbitrator
(2) If the two lists have only one name in common, the Minister must appoint that individual as the mediator-arbitrator, and if they have more than one name in common, he or she must appoint one of those individuals. However, if the Minister does not receive both lists within the period referred to in subsection (1), or if the lists that are received within that period have no names in common, he or she must appoint the mediator-arbitrator after seeking advice from the Chairperson of the Canada Industrial Relations Board.
So in most cases the government/corp decides, the same government/corp that forced arbitration on us. Game is rigged.

Would be a nice way to negotiate for a car. Pass a law that a third party decides what you pay, then appoint your brother to be that third party.
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Oct 16, 2014
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at the chiropractors
Instead of making the strike list 50 cities why not just call a general strike until noon EST. What a bunch of a holes. Our Union leadership are just a bunch of spiteful babies and I am embarrassed to be represented by them. Spend this time working on your case, not crying like a two year old, ffs.
Sometimes the truth hurts. The other times it hurts worse....
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Feb 25, 2007
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Thornhill
jonny_fishead wrote:
Nov 27th, 2018 8:45 am
So in most cases the government/corp decides, the same government/corp that forced arbitration on us. Game is rigged.

Would be a nice way to negotiate for a car. Pass a law that a third party decides what you pay, then appoint your brother to be that third party.
The key is collective bargaining. Negotiate a car deal is individual. I don't believe they will pass a legislation like this if you negotiate individually with Canada Post. Same as, if you can get a massive amount of car buyers who are willing to collective bargaining for a car which will impact the economy, the government will step in.
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Dec 21, 2007
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moncton
timetotellthetruth wrote:
Nov 27th, 2018 9:21 am
Instead of making the strike list 50 cities why not just call a general strike until noon EST. What a bunch of a holes. Our Union leadership are just a bunch of spiteful babies and I am embarrassed to be represented by them. Spend this time working on your case, not crying like a two year old, ffs.
They should have went general strike the second we got threatened with legislation.
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jmhlin wrote:
Nov 27th, 2018 9:29 am
The key is collective bargaining. Negotiate a car deal is individual. I don't believe they will pass a legislation like this if you negotiate individually with Canada Post. Same as, if you can get a massive amount of car buyers who are willing to collective bargaining for a car which will impact the economy, the government will step in.
The point is its a conflict of interest, big time. You've got the government, who takes our profits, not only infringing on our right to fair collective bargaining but are also able to ensure we get a bad deal by selecting the "arbitrator," giving them even more profits.
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at the chiropractors
jonny_fishead wrote:
Nov 27th, 2018 9:29 am
They should have went general strike the second we got threatened with legislation.
No. It should have been general strike 5 weeks ago....
Sometimes the truth hurts. The other times it hurts worse....
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Feb 25, 2007
158 posts
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Thornhill
jonny_fishead wrote:
Nov 27th, 2018 9:46 am
The point is its a conflict of interest, big time. You've got the government, who takes our profits, not only infringing on our right to fair collective bargaining but are also able to ensure we get a bad deal by selecting the "arbitrator," giving them even more profits.
Unless you own the corporation, there is nothing as your profit. It is up to the shareholders or in the case the crown to decide how much to give back to the employee. It is the same private or public. So, work hard or ask your union to buy Canada Post. You will all become the owner and you can decide how much to allocate back to you.

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