Ron Paul now polling second nationwide for the republicans!
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Feb 8th, 2012 06:30 PM #991
I typed "Ron Paul Polls" in a google search and it was the first four top results in the list, as well as all three of the news results. I simply copied and pasted.
As you said, cherry picking would imply that I had picked the best from a list...in this case I grabbed the first ones(top news stories), not the best ones._______________
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Feb 8th, 2012 11:33 PM #992
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Feb 9th, 2012 05:53 AM #993
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Feb 9th, 2012 06:14 AM #994
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Feb 9th, 2012 06:19 AM #995
LOL and I don't see how it can work. If he's willing to play ball with Romney, he's not the guy we think he is (unless he's given power too).
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Feb 9th, 2012 11:04 AM #996
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Feb 9th, 2012 07:32 PM #997
The establishment is having a hard time containing the momentum of Ron Paul. No one barely listens to lamestream media anymore.
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Feb 10th, 2012 06:52 PM #998
It's about delegates and Ron Paul supporters know how to get them.
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Feb 10th, 2012 07:09 PM #999
What momentum...? While it pains me to admit it, that scumbag Santorum has the momentum. Having just won 3 contests (although one is non-binding), he's out-polling/running even with Romney in several key battlegrounds including PA and OH.
I see. Has he been choosing not to use this knowledge, considering he's in last place? Next three contests are in Maine (non-binding, so 0 delegates up for grabs), Arizona (where Romney is projected to dominate and Paul to get between 5-9%), Michigan (where he might get up to 15% and finish 3rd at best). Do you truly expect some sort of unprecedented breakthrough on SUper Tuesday? I'm not really seeing the end-game here, for RP. As much as I think he is a better candidate than the other jokers, he is unfortunately not electable.It's about delegates and Ron Paul supporters know how to get them.Last edited by Fac1; Feb 10th, 2012 at 07:37 PM.
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Feb 10th, 2012 07:28 PM #1000
After 67 pages, it's not that hard to figure out that CharlieSheen911 lives in some sort of alternate universe where logic, reason and common sense do not exist.
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Feb 10th, 2012 10:16 PM #1001
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Feb 10th, 2012 10:27 PM #1002
He has 21%? That's absolutely crazy.
That Romney guy lost it when he came out with that gays in the military ad. That is not a philosophical question to be throwing around. I mean back it up with a reason, not an ethical debate. Get women off the front lines too, don't go after the gays. Some of them are real mean bastards. Big Mistake.
Santorum has such a bizarre name it will probably tap into the subconscious kinkiness of the nation. He is uber pretty boy too, to the point of not being genuine. I have yet to see anyone elected into presidency with that gleam.
But on the other hand if enough people figure it out, then maybe Ron Paul as a real shot at it.
Could be an interesting thing to see play out._______________
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Feb 11th, 2012 12:07 AM #1003
Problem being it was a single poll with a very small sample size (425). Two new ones have since been released that have him at 10 and 15. Taking a look at the previous 50 polls, 16 was the absolutely highest he's reached. Taking a look at the past month specifically, around 12 polls, he has consistently rated between 12-15. It's safe to say that that result is an outlier.
That was Rick Perry that ran the ad, he's since dropped out. I think you underestimate how accepted homophobia is with hardcore Republicans (i.e. the ones that vote in primaries and attend debates).That Romney guy lost it when he came out with that gays in the military ad. That is not a philosophical question to be throwing around. I mean back it up with a reason, not an ethical debate. Get women off the front lines too, don't go after the gays. Some of them are real mean bastards. Big Mistake.Last edited by Fac1; Feb 11th, 2012 at 12:13 AM.
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Feb 11th, 2012 12:14 AM #1004
Acceptable homophobia or not, he did with the flair and tact of Sarah Palin, only without the integrity. Does Sarah Palin have integrity? When compared to the rhetoric of Rick Perry? Yes.
Santorum is really a clean cut, sparkly kind of guy. He might do really well, but he does really remind me of the swift boating antics of John Kerry.
Can someone see fireworks coming off this guys teeth, or what?
Last edited by MrKap; Feb 11th, 2012 at 12:16 AM.
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Feb 11th, 2012 12:19 AM #1005
You do realize that Santorum is even more homophobic than is Perry, right?
In the interview by Associated Press reporter Lara Jakes Jordan,[6] when asked for his position on the Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal, Santorum said that the scandal involved priests and post-pubescent men in "a basic homosexual relationship" (not child sexual abuse), which led the interviewer to ask if homosexuality should be outlawed.[7]
Santorum then brought up the then-pending U.S. Supreme Court case Lawrence v. Texas, which challenged a Texas sodomy law, and went on to declare that:[7][8]
he did not have a problem with homosexuals, but "a problem with homosexual acts" the right to privacy "doesn't exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution sodomy laws properly exist to prevent acts which "undermine the basic tenets of our society and the family"
When Jordan asked "Okay, without being too gory or graphic, so if somebody is homosexual, you would argue that they should not have sex?" Santorum's response concluded:[7]
"In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality —" (At this point, Jordan commented, "I'm sorry, I didn't think I was going to talk about 'man on dog' with a United States senator, it's sort of freaking me out", coining a phrase widely used in connection with this incident.)[7]
In the original version of the AP story, Santorum was quoted as saying:[1]
"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything."
It also included additional remarks criticizing "homosexual acts":[7]
"Whether it's polygamy, whether it's adultery, whether it's sodomy, all of those things, are antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family."
Jordan produced a recording of the interview, after allegations of bias were leveled against her because she is married to a Democratic strategist.[9]The guy is a nutty religious bigot that is probably a closet case. His recent success is just the byproduct of a new flavour of the month as GOP base voters are still not comfortable with Romney's positions. There is no way Santorum becomes the nominee, unless Republicans want to lose every single swing state in the election.During the Fox News/Google-sponsored debate, which took place in Orlando, Florida on September 22, 2011, a gay soldier deployed in Iraq asked the candidates if they would take measures to "circumvent" the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", if elected president.[3]
Santorum, who answered the question, called the repeal of DADT "social experimentation" - and "tragic".
"I would say any type of sexual activity has absolutely no place in the military," Santorum responded. "And the fact that they're making a point to include it as a provision within the military that we are going to recognize a group of people and give them a special privilege to -- and removing 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell,' I think tries to inject social policy into the military. And the military's job is to do one thing, and that is to defend our country."[3]
He added: "What we're doing is playing social experimentation with our military right now. And that's tragic."Last edited by Fac1; Feb 11th, 2012 at 12:21 AM.
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