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More Weeds than grass, What to do?

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Has anyone brought over a lawn care specialist? I have been working on my lawn for five years, with no results. It must be the soil PH (which I haven't got tested) Grass will not take in the backyard, and thats with a lot of love going into the care of it. Yes I have kids running around, but there has to be a solution. Any recomendations for a lawn guy to come over and give some tips? (toronto area)
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I think you'll need to rake the heck out of the lawn first - to remove dead grass and debris.
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bubuski wrote:
Mar 21st, 2017 3:24 pm
Time for 2017 maintenance... In late October I noticed clover weed were trying to make a comeback on my lawn. What do I need to get rid of them?

I still have snow on my lawn but weather forecast for early April is looking great for garden work.
clover is a pain to remove....it's a vine type plant, and if you want to get rid of it, while keeping within the "laws", then you will need to do a lot of manual work.....you need to find the clover, run your finger and follow the stem to the central root, and pull it out.....
when you do this, you will also (hopefully) get the other vines that are linked to that root.

the "other" way is to use "chemicals"
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octapuss wrote:
Apr 11th, 2017 7:19 pm
Has anyone brought over a lawn care specialist? I have been working on my lawn for five years, with no results. It must be the soil PH (which I haven't got tested) Grass will not take in the backyard, and thats with a lot of love going into the care of it. Yes I have kids running around, but there has to be a solution. Any recomendations for a lawn guy to come over and give some tips? (toronto area)
thanks
O
pretty sure you can buy pH test at Home Depot.
when you say you've been "working on [your] lawn"....what exactly does that mean?
I don't want to say you're doing something wrong....
also, how much sun does your backyard get? What seed are you using to overseed?
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I guess working on my lawn means I have seeded and seeded each spring but the grass never last year after year. I have nice black soil but my back yard is lined with white cedar trees to the left and a big manitoba maple to the right. I guess it is a sun shade mix. From noon to 6 it gets nice sun. Rest of the time it is dappled light. What seed am I using.....hmmm not really sure. Im buying the big blue bag of grass seed from Spielmans Garden Center up on Wilson St. It is there Sun Shade mix.

I have three kids that run around in the back yard so it gets used. I would say some of the soil becomes compacted. But still some of the grass should carry over year after year.

Any ideas?
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hwoarang wrote:
Apr 12th, 2017 11:22 pm
is it time to put the corn gluten down?
You mean as fertilizer or bird feed? Then yes. If you want to use it to stop weeds from growing, then good luck with that. While it's marginally effective (like most 'green' washed weed killers), it's really only marginally effective at best.
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From what I read freshness is important with grass seed. Does anyone know how long it stays "fresh" once opened or when it "expires"? I need 10KG for one application and I plan to put 2 applications this year. TSC has a sale on the grass seed blend I am going to use on their 25KG bag - it works out cheaper than buying 2 10KG. Wondering if I save half for September if it will be just as as effective?
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SomeOtherDude wrote:
Apr 12th, 2017 10:24 am
I think you'll need to rake the heck out of the lawn first - to remove dead grass and debris.
No, no, no.

The grass that has just started to grow/green up is tender, raking the heck out of it will damage it.

The only raking 99.9%+ of lawns needs is if you have trampled down stuff that is laying flat against the soil, just rake it lightly enough to stand it up, and that's it. The stuff that has died off over the winter will break down within the first couple of cuts of the year, no need to do anything about it.
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cliff wrote:
Apr 13th, 2017 9:51 am
No, no, no.

The grass that has just started to grow/green up is tender, raking the heck out of it will damage it.

The only raking 99.9%+ of lawns needs is if you have trampled down stuff that is laying flat against the soil, just rake it lightly enough to stand it up, and that's it. The stuff that has died off over the winter will break down within the first couple of cuts of the year, no need to do anything about it.
Thanks for this. Do you agree it's too soon to start overseeding? I have about 5,300sqft to do and was going to start this weekend but may hold off now.
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Do not use corn gluten before overseeding. It will prevent the seeds from germinating. Apply it only after any new grass is established.
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its not too soon. This is the perfect time to overseed. The most important thing is not fresh grass seeds, but 1inch of topsoil.

Also make sure you fertilized before you overseeded by about 2-3 days and a good rainfall.
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Anikiri wrote:
Apr 13th, 2017 3:38 pm
its not too soon. This is the perfect time to overseed. The most important thing is not fresh grass seeds, but 1inch of topsoil.

Also make sure you fertilized before you overseeded by about 2-3 days and a good rainfall.
Perfect! Thank you. Getting all my stuff this evening and know what I'm doing this long weekend.
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I've been researching about overseeding and every source I've consulted so far has suggested to wait a few more weeks as the cold can kill off the seed (last night dropped to 0). If you're spending all this time and money, you may want to wait it out otherwise it may go to waste
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So my lawn looks like this in many places. I tried taking it and it felt very "hard". Also as soon as I lightly take the "dead grass" comes up and see soil is behind which is very compacted. Also there seems to be millions of holes in the ground. I want to get a head start on the season. I sprinkled some grass seeds on top and was going to add soil on top of the bare spots. Any tips how I can repair it? Front lawn is ok Just backyard looks like this.
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