Most Competitive?

[DYN4STY]

what do you the most competitve undergrad program is (in canada)?

more specifically, which is most competitive out of: schulich, ivey and queens commerce?

usually i tend to see the higher average people wanna go to queens, followed by schulich and ivey. is this correct?

lastly, which of these 3 programs do u think is easiest (less tough than the others) to be top of ur class in?

[Sniper001]

Most competitive to least competitive.
Ivey > Queens > Schulich.

[Time_Keeper]

what do you the most competitve undergrad program is (in canada)?

more specifically, which is most competitive out of: schulich, ivey and queens commerce?

usually i tend to see the higher average people wanna go to queens, followed by schulich and ivey. is this correct?

lastly, which of these 3 programs do u think is easiest (less tough than the others) to be top of ur class in?

Most competitive is waterloo's Chartered Accounting/Biotech program. Atleast that's what I've heard.

And I always thought schulich was harder to get into, then ivy.

[DYN4STY]

Most competitive is waterloo's Chartered Accounting/Biotech program. Atleast that's what I've heard.

And I always thought schulich was harder to get into, then ivy.

i heard about that waterloo program.. dont they admit only like 10 ppl? something like that. and i thought schulich was the easiest to get into since ppl overrate it so much.

[can't get 'nough dealz]

In terms of getting accepted, each school varies.

For Schulich, as long as you hit the cut-off and have SOMETHING at least "good" written for your supplementary, then you're in.

For Queens, your average justs have to be below 90, BUT IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT that you have a good supplementary. EXTRA CURRICS is important for Queens.

For Ivey, they tend to admit a lot more people simply because they know that the majority wont maintain an 80 average.

In terms of curriculum, I really dont think it matters, its just what exactly are you planning to do? Schulich is better for Accounting, DO NOT GO TO IVEY FOR ACCOUNTING, you would have a harder time trying to get your CREDIT HOURS for ICAO. Queens and Ivey are better for Investment Banking/Finance. But at the end, its all about the network you build.

[DYN4STY]

In terms of getting accepted, each school varies.

For Schulich, as long as you hit the cut-off and have SOMETHING at least "good" written for your supplementary, then you're in.

For Queens, your average justs have to be below 90, BUT IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT that you have a good supplementary. EXTRA CURRICS is important for Queens.

For Ivey, they tend to admit a lot more people simply because they know that the majority wont maintain an 80 average.

In terms of curriculum, I really dont think it matters, its just what exactly are you planning to do? Schulich is better for Accounting, DO NOT GO TO IVEY FOR ACCOUNTING, you would have a harder time trying to get your CREDIT HOURS for ICAO. Queens and Ivey are better for Investment Banking/Finance. But at the end, its all about the network you build.

thanks for the advice, and i dont wanna go into accounting for sure. i was thinking to go to law school after undergrad to become work in corporate law but if i had to choose a business field.. investment banking.

[EnGros]

Paramedic and Dental Hygiene at College.

I kid you not.

[DeltasInTheSky]

Trent - General Arts. Dawg, I had a 58 average and I JUST GOT IN.

[ngold]

thanks for the advice, and i dont wanna go into accounting for sure. i was thinking to go to law school after undergrad to become work in corporate law but if i had to choose a business field.. investment banking.

If you want to get into law school then don't go for a competitive undergrad program.
Competitive program might get you bad GPA, and a bad GPA is a bad GPA no matter how competitive the program is.
You have a better shot at a good law school with a 4.0 GPA in B.A. Economics than with a 2.5 GPA in Schulich.

[poedua]

thanks for the advice, and i dont wanna go into accounting for sure. i was thinking to go to law school after undergrad to become work in corporate law but if i had to choose a business field.. investment banking.

Smart call.

After all, who'd want to spend the rest of their life as a ' bean counter ' !

[salabanzi]

I've heard Engineering Science at UT is pretty competitive.

[night_sky]

I've heard Engineering Science at UT is pretty competitive.

I graduated Engineering Science 0T7 in biomedical option. I can confirm it's pretty competitive, all right, since everyone's so damn smart... but once you're in it, it's nowhere as cutthroat as Life Science at U of T.

OP - you're missing the verb in the first sentence (call the grammar nazi!)

[Sniper001]

thanks for the advice, and i dont wanna go into accounting for sure. i was thinking to go to law school after undergrad to become work in corporate law but if i had to choose a business field.. investment banking.

That's exactly what I want to do as well. I'd recommend Schulich. Much easier to obtain a higher average (you need a high GPA + good LSAT to get into law school) and ALOT cheaper than Queens + Ivey. If money isn't too big of an issue, than go for Queens.
Also, Schulich doesn't require calculus (which is the hardest from the 3 maths) so you should be able to hit a 90% average on the dot and get that instant scholarship.

However, in the end it all comes down to what YOU want. Go to all 3 universities and see which one suits you. You'd be surprised how many people switch universities after first year because they just don't like the community or how the university looks like. I've seen both Schulich and Queens, and I can say Queens is MUCH better... it's just (in my personal opinion) not worth it to go there (cost-wise). Law school is expensive, I figure I'm not going to waste so much money on an undergrad.. I might as well use that money towards law school so I am less in debt once I graduate.

[DYN4STY]

That's exactly what I want to do as well. I'd recommend Schulich. Much easier to obtain a higher average (you need a high GPA + good LSAT to get into law school) and ALOT cheaper than Queens + Ivey. If money isn't too big of an issue, than go for Queens.
Also, Schulich doesn't require calculus (which is the hardest from the 3 maths) so you should be able to hit a 90% average on the dot and get that instant scholarship.

However, in the end it all comes down to what YOU want. Go to all 3 universities and see which one suits you. You'd be surprised how many people switch universities after first year because they just don't like the community or how the university looks like. I've seen both Schulich and Queens, and I can say Queens is MUCH better... it's just (in my personal opinion) not worth it to go there (cost-wise). Law school is expensive, I figure I'm not going to waste so much money on an undergrad.. I might as well use that money towards law school so I am less in debt once I graduate.

looks like we're in the same boat. yeah for money wise and distance i wud pick schulich and for some reason i just think it wud be easier to excel in because all the uninformed ppl choose schulich first (just a feeling). and i jus checked its admission requirements and it said calculus is recommended over data but its not needed. as for ivey, u only need one math course. for queens i think you need 2 math (data and adv functions is ok)...

so with that being said, do any of these 3 programs actually require calculus?

[Sniper001]

looks like we're in the same boat. yeah for money wise and distance i wud pick schulich and for some reason i just think it wud be easier to excel in because all the uninformed ppl choose schulich first (just a feeling). and i jus checked its admission requirements and it said calculus is recommended over data but its not needed. as for ivey, u only need one math course. for queens i think you need 2 math (data and adv functions is ok)...

so with that being said, do any of these 3 programs actually require calculus?

Queens requires Calculus, Schulich does not. I'm not sure about Ivey since I haven't really looked into their program at all - it's not something I have bothered looking into since I know the tuition is way out of my reach. Other BBA/Commerce programs which are not top tier but worth considering are WLU (does not require calculus, but 2 math's) and UofT (does require calculus and one other math). Queens Commerce requires you to obtain an 80 in english, calculus, and your other math (ie. advanced functions). I, personally, am going to apply to Schulich, Laurier, UofT, and Queens (won't probably go to Queens because tuition is still expensive and it's very far from home). I have calculus second semester, so if I get an early admission into Laurier or Schulich (The universities where I really want to go), I'll drop calculus in second semester and focus on my other subjects. If I don't, than I'll keep calculus and work extra hard second semester. You might want to do the same, just to keep your options open.

Just to rank them as most competitive to least competitive:
Ivey > Queens > Schulich > Laurier > UofT.
Now, it is debatable which one is better (between Laurier and UofT), however, Laurier is particular known for its BBA program, and despite the fact that UofT does have a good Commerce program, it's not what the university is known for (and I am talking all about undergraduate degrees, postgrad is a totally different story). In addition, I've heard of many people (both personal friends and members from this forum) who have chosen Laurier over Schulich + UofT. (Because you also might want to remember Schulich's a bit over rated when it comes to their undergraduate program, it's particular known for its MBA program.)

It all comes down to personal choice, UofT doesn't particularly have the best "school atmosphere", which could play a factor of why people chose Laurier over UofT. In the end, to be honest, it doesn't matter what university you go to (from the ones I listed above), they are all great! It just comes down to how well you can perform in those universities to get the high marks you need to get into a good postgrad program (whether it be law school, an MBA, etc), because THAN it will matter what university you go too.