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[MRG] Official Nikon Announcement: FF D3 and D300 dSLR + slew of new lenses

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The info on Nikon Canada's website for the Overview on the D300 is actually for the D3. They need to fix that.
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This announce is really exciting! The new FX sensor with 12mp is great for ISO lover and D300 is great for the money!

I am in the Nikon camp myself and if I had the money, the D3 is definitely the cam to get.... but not too sure about the D300 yet... with the old D2X sensor, which I dont think is all that good, i would probably be better off with S5 pro...

Just my thought right now... not like I am going to get a new camera soon... My D50 will have to keep me going for now...
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2000fordfocus wrote:
Aug 23rd, 2007 10:23 pm
but not too sure about the D300 yet... with the old D2X sensor, which I dont think is all that good, i would probably be better off with S5 pro...
It's not the exact same. The processing (which makes a big difference) is different.
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KorruptioN wrote:
Aug 23rd, 2007 10:25 pm
It's not the exact same. The processing (which makes a big difference) is different.
I hope you a right on this! but D200 wasn't that great as compare to 5D or S5pro~
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2000fordfocus wrote:
Aug 23rd, 2007 10:57 pm
I hope you a right on this! but D200 wasn't that great as compare to 5D or S5pro~
Wasn't great how? The D200 is significantly cheaper than the 5D, let alone the S5 Pro. It is faster than both as well.
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KorruptioN wrote:
Aug 23rd, 2007 11:00 pm
Wasn't great how? The D200 is significantly cheaper than the 5D, let alone the S5 Pro. It is faster than both as well.
Yeah, but the technological feature set of the D200 was closer the Canon 30D. The 5D had the full-frame chip and the S5 Pro had the high dynamic range abilities.
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tridium wrote:
Aug 24th, 2007 9:44 am
Yeah, but the technological feature set of the D200 was closer the Canon 30D. The 5D had the full-frame chip and the S5 Pro had the high dynamic range abilities.
Bottom line is, they all do different things. You can't compare them directly to one another.
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Nikon, showing they are not be outdone by Canon, recently announced two new dSLR cameras, the D3, D300 and five new full-frame lenses.

I am truly excited to see Nikon release these two pro cameras. Yes, I consider the D300 pro as it exceeds the existing pro D2Xs in almost every aspect except for build quality. Specs are available online and so far, things are looking good and initial impressions of both cameras are extremely positive.

I'm going to hold onto my D200 and my infrared D70 for the time being but this definitely good news for advanced amateur and pro Nikon shooters.

Is anyone else excited or elated about these new cameras!?
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robbiex1 wrote:
Aug 25th, 2007 11:45 pm
Is anyone else excited or elated about these new cameras!?
Yes because it'll push the tech down into consumer bodies in the next generation.
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2000fordfocus wrote:
Aug 23rd, 2007 10:23 pm
This announce is really exciting! The new FX sensor with 12mp is great for ISO lover and D300 is great for the money!
Usable ISO as high as 12800 and 25600? Holy smokes!
Low light photography takes on a new meaning with this sensor!
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Aug 26th, 2007 3:15 pm
Usable ISO as high as 12800 and 25600? Holy smokes!
Low light photography takes on a new meaning with this sensor!
Err... I will await to see samples from the D3. Nikon has consistently been behind Canon in terms of high-ISO noise suppression. They haven't been all bad, but they've always been behind Canon at the highest values.

Couple this with Nikon's first foray into the full-frame chip market (they'll have to write software to best use the chip and that'll be hard since it's not their own chip) and I won't be holding my breath for silky smooth ISO 25600.
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tridium wrote:
Aug 26th, 2007 11:34 pm
Err... I will await to see samples from the D3. Nikon has consistently been behind Canon in terms of high-ISO noise suppression. They haven't been all bad, but they've always been behind Canon at the highest values.

Couple this with Nikon's first foray into the full-frame chip market (they'll have to write software to best use the chip and that'll be hard since it's not their own chip) and I won't be holding my breath for silky smooth ISO 25600.
Not really. The D80 for example, performs very well at higher ISO values. The film-grain that is left behind is desirable compared to the coloured blotches left behind by the 400D, for example. The more noise you blast away, the more detail you remove as well.

ISO25600 is "only" three stops above ISO3200. Remember, the D3 has full-frame sensor with "only" 12mp. Larger pixel sites is pretty much always a good thing for noise. The Canon 1Ds-MarkIII doesn't offer such an option. Don't jump to conclusions so soon.
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KorruptioN wrote:
Aug 26th, 2007 11:51 pm
Not really. The D80 for example, performs very well at higher ISO values. The film-grain that is left behind is desirable compared to the coloured blotches left behind by the 400D, for example. The more noise you blast away, the more detail you remove as well.
Um... sure.

Canon 400D @ ISO 1600
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Nikon D80 @ ISO 1600
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You said, Canon is blasting away detail with its aggressive noise reduction? Go figure.
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Klam, what are the details of that test? lens used? in-camera settings? Focus mode? Is this your own test?

Given both cameras, I could easily make the results of that test look however I wanted.

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