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NBA 2017-2018: congrats GSW. where do we go from here?

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scoper wrote:
Jul 16th, 2017 1:05 am
I know it's just summer league bur Dennis Smith Jr is making the Knicks and the other teams that passed on him look like idiots and the Mavs like geniuses.
Is he the guy with big hops, who on draft night, when Jalen Rose does all the comparisons, says he's most like Steve Francis? If so, that guy can ball. I think not making it into the NCAA tournament hurt from a lack of exposure. Also, the concerns about lack of leadership, although may be valid, have to be put into perspective in that these are teenagers.

With all that said, this was a deep point guard class from a top 10 picks perspective, so it's hard to knock the teams that drafted before and went with some of the other point guards or addressed other positions of need. Knicks chose someone that at 18, has been playing professionally against older people in Europe, so a valid case can be made for that experience.
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TheRealVinsanity wrote:
Jul 20th, 2017 11:48 am
Can't believe this guy used to be a MVP and now could be a signing a minimum contract.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2011 ... -year-deal
At the minimum it's a great deal for the Cavs, they got nothing offensively in the playoffs from DWill, Rose could give them easy double-digit scoring off the bench. Defence is another matter, who is he going to guard against Golden State?
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TheRealVinsanity wrote:
Jul 20th, 2017 11:48 am
Can't believe this guy used to be a MVP and now could be a signing a minimum contract.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2011 ... -year-deal
well to be fair....DRose's game was based on athleticism and explosiveness....once he blew out his knees.....what else does he have?

Don't get me wrong...he is still a solid PG....but just no longer MVP level....
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Kyrie Irving wants to be traded, lol
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Jermyzy wrote:
Jul 21st, 2017 5:00 pm
Kyrie Irving wants to be traded, lol
Nice power move by Kyrie. Control your destiny instead of letting LeBron control it.
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Jermyzy wrote:
Jul 21st, 2017 5:00 pm
Kyrie Irving wants to be traded, lol

Lowry and draft picks for Kyrie Irving would be a good deal for the Raptors.
Kyrie lowered his trade value by demanding a trade. It may be feasible.

When Irving gets into a groove on offense he is probably one of the top 3 most unstoppable players in the league today.
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XFactor11 wrote:
Jul 21st, 2017 8:31 pm
Lowry and draft picks for Kyrie Irving would be a good deal for the Raptors.
Kyrie lowered his trade value by demanding a trade. It may be feasible.

When Irving gets into a groove on offense he is probably one of the top 3 most unstoppable players in the league today.
Irving is not much of an upgrade over lowry with slightly worse shooting and defense.

Swapping lowry with Irving makes no sense especially with the contract situation. And raps still won't beat a Cavs with LeBron and lowry

Should let Irving go elsewhere and raps would be in better position to have a chance against Cavs
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Doubleshot wrote:
Jul 21st, 2017 9:04 pm
Irving is not much of an upgrade over lowry with slightly worse shooting and defense.

Swapping lowry with Irving makes no sense especially with the contract situation. And raps still won't beat a Cavs with LeBron and lowry

Should let Irving go elsewhere and raps would be in better position to have a chance against Cavs
I don't know how their percentages compare. But i'm assuming Lowry has better percentages given your statement, but numbers don't tell all here, as Irving is just on another level from an offensive standpoint.

He hits the big shots and is one of the best at creating shots off the dribble. To be fair, he is younger and fresher, so can naturally be more explosive.
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kenchau wrote:
Jul 21st, 2017 9:28 pm
I don't know how their percentages compare. But i'm assuming Lowry has better percentages given your statement, but numbers don't tell all here, as Irving is just on another level from an offensive standpoint.

He hits the big shots and is one of the best at creating shots off the dribble. To be fair, he is younger and fresher, so can naturally be more explosive.
Irving is streaky, worse shooting than lowry even with LeBron taking a lot of the defense of opposing teams and he's pretty weak.

Also has zero D

Irving is not much if any better than lowry on offence with LeBron taking the defenses attention and can't defend anybody

Without a superstar like LeBron to take the pressure off on offense...he's not going to make the raps better swapping with lowry

Before LeBron came back to cleaveland..that was the real Irving and he wasn't good enough to carry a team.

There is no way a raps with Irving can have a chance against Cavs with LeBron. This is why this trade makes no sense in any manner for the raps without even considering the contract issue and that he wants to goto Knicks, bulls or Timberwolves lol
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Doubleshot wrote:
Jul 21st, 2017 10:01 pm
Before LeBron came back to cleaveland..that was the real Irving and he wasn't good enough to carry a team.
Kyrie is only 25...24 for majority of the season. Before LeBron, he was only 21 in his third season - hardly the "real Irving" when he's still growing and improving. He still has upside even today. On a pure offence perspective, he is hands down one of the deadliest point guards in the league today. Anyways, it's neither here nor there.

San Antonio is the best fit for him, but don't have much to give. Knicks are likely to offer the most for him.
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kenchau wrote:
Jul 21st, 2017 11:24 pm
Kyrie is only 25...24 for majority of the season. Before LeBron, he was only 21 in his third season - hardly the "real Irving" when he's still growing and improving. He still has upside even today. On a pure offence perspective, he is hands down one of the deadliest point guards in the league today. Anyways, it's neither here nor there.

San Antonio is the best fit for him, but don't have much to give. Knicks are likely to offer the most for him.
When the game is on the line and you need a 3 I want Kyrie taking that shot over anyone else in the league not named Steph, Klay, KD.
I can see the Clippers aggressively trying to get him and offering Deandre. But the Cavs will trade him to NY for Melo because they think that will convince Lebron to stay beyond next season and maybe CP3 and Wade to come over next summer. Banana boat team dreaming instead of rebuilding.
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kenchau wrote:
Jul 21st, 2017 11:24 pm
Kyrie is only 25...24 for majority of the season. Before LeBron, he was only 21 in his third season - hardly the "real Irving" when he's still growing and improving. He still has upside even today. On a pure offence perspective, he is hands down one of the deadliest point guards in the league today. Anyways, it's neither here nor there.

San Antonio is the best fit for him, but don't have much to give. Knicks are likely to offer the most for him.
He is deadliest if he had some basketball iq which has yet to develop yes. If he ever gets some basketball iq.. he will be good yes

Instead he just dribbles into 3 defenders and plays NBA jam now
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Doubleshot wrote:
Jul 22nd, 2017 7:48 am
He is deadliest if he had some basketball iq which has yet to develop yes. If he ever gets some basketball iq.. he will be good yes

Instead he just dribbles into 3 defenders and plays NBA jam now
Kyrie has a very high basketball iq. He just isnt your pass first pg. He is a scorer. This guy is almost impossible to contain.

He isnt as good as Curry but he is just a level below him. He is SUPER clutch.

Lowry isnt as good as him and he is only 25. Lowry is a choker and easy to shut down.

Kyrie also proved that he could play in the Finals and make big shots if given the oppurtunity. Thats a fact.
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