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[kay188]

This is a good deal no?
ADATA 32GB microSDHC Micro Secure Digital High Capacity Class 10 Flash Card w/ SD Adapter

For 18.99 and it is a class 10..

I don't think so. Amazon.ca has the Sandisk Ultra MicroSDHC 32GB Class 10 UHS-1 for $26. The thread is in hot deals I think.

why is the sandisk better?
faster r/w ?

Price Match CanadaComputers's Adata MicroSD 32GB Class 10 @ $17.99.

I did ASPM, and NCIX HQ accepted. They may/may not accept in store because CanadaComputers is OOS. HQ accepted when CC was OOS.

I don't like Sandisk MicroSD's. They do not perform above specs. If it's class 10, it will read/write at 10MB/s. (Class 2/4/6, writes at listed speeds.)

Adata, from my experience, perform above specs.
Their 8GB class 10, and 16GB class 10 both perform 20/15, read/write.

The class 10 32GB was a bit of a disappointment because the read/write is 20/10. (I'm thinking write is 10MB/s because of the 32GB capacity).

[Ghetto_Child]

why is the sandisk better?
faster r/w ?

need to know this as well as I was ready to hit buy on the ADATA before i saw this.

Generally Sandisk makes higher quality memory cards than Adata. Sandisk Ultra cards are pretty fast and probably a lot faster at random transfers and small block sequential transfers. I personally havn't seen any non-UHS-I speed Adata brand that was faster than 155X, not even their Class 10. I have a Sandisk Extreme SDHC that is 300X Class 10 UHS-I rated for up to 45MB/s.

UHS-I speeds have a limit of 54MB/s; you need a card reader or device capable of using UHS speeds to get that high. If you put a UHS-I card into a non-UHS reader you will be using the Class# speeds. In the case of The Sandisk Ultra it will be the Class 10. However the Sandisk Ultra card should still out perform the Adata a lot in small block transfers and random transfers. Major diff between the Adata and the Sandisk Ultra is likely the Adata has a much higher latency. Adata is good for storage but not for frequent or small sized transactions.

I wanted to attach results of 3 SDHC Class 10 UHS-I cards in a UHS card reader running on USB 2.0 ports (I think one needs USB 3.0 ports to get UHS speeds). However the forum is telling me my text file saved from crystal disk mark exceeds forum limits by 46MB?!?!?! The file is not even 1KB to begin with.

Lexar Professional LSD16GCTBNA400 16GB 400x 32KB-FAT32 CrystalDiskMark
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

           Sequential Read :    34.655 MB/s
          Sequential Write :    19.030 MB/s
         Random Read 512KB :    34.267 MB/s
        Random Write 512KB :     5.982 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) :     4.715 MB/s [  1151.1 IOPS]
   Random Write 4KB (QD=1) :     0.684 MB/s [   167.1 IOPS]
   Random Read 4KB (QD=32) :     5.196 MB/s [  1268.5 IOPS]
  Random Write 4KB (QD=32) :     0.526 MB/s [   128.4 IOPS]

  Test : 500 MB [F: 0.0% (0.0/14.9 GB)] (x2)
  Date : 2012/10/17 4:43:49
    OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
    Lexar Professional LSD16GCTBNA400 16GB 400x UHS-I Class 10 SDHC 32KB-FAT32

=============================================================
Lexar Professional LSD16GCTBNA400 16GB 400x 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
WinSAT disk batch test
This batch script will test:
4096Byte Random writes for 256 I/O operations.
524288Byte Random Writes for 256 I/O operations.
4096Byte Random Reads for 256 I/O operations.
524288Byte Random Reads for 256 I/O operations.
Write Policy Flush Mode Read Time Performance for 256 I/O operations 
on 65536Byte Sequential writes and 16384Byte Random writes.

Usage Syntax: ThisBatchFilename.bat DriveLetter 
(Replace "DriveLetter" with desired drive letter, no colon).
Press Ctrl + C to abort.
Drive F entered.



Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096 /v'
> DWM not running
> System processor power policy saved and set to 'max performance'
> Running: Feature Enumeration ''
> Gathering System Information
> Operating System                        : 6.1 Build-7600
> Processor                               : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz
> TSC Frequency                           : 0
> Number of Processors                    : 1
> Number of Cores                         : 1
> Number of CPUs                          : 1
> Number of Cores per Processor           : 1
> Number of CPUs Per Core                 : 1
> Cores have logical CPUs                 : NO
> L1 Cache and line Size                  : 16384  64
> L2 Cache and line Size                  : 1048576  64
> Total physical mem available to the OS  : 1.74 GB (1,876,414,464 bytes)
> Adapter Description                     : NVIDIA GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
> Adapter Manufacturer                    : NVIDIA
> Adapter Driver Version                  : 8.17.12.9610
> Adapter Driver Date (yy/mm/dd)          : 2012\2\29
> Has DX9 or better                       : Yes
> Has Pixel shader 2.0 or better          : Yes
> Has LDDM Driver                         : Yes
> Dedicated (local) video memory          : 249.988MB
> System memory dedicated as video memory : 0MB
> System memory shared as video memory    : 638.744MB
> Primary Monitor Size                    : 1600 X 900  (1440000 total pixels)
> WinSAT is Official                       : Yes
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 4096

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x400200.

Run[1] Type[0x02000002] Zone[0] - 0.622378 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:04.12
> Disk  Random 4.0 Write                       0.64 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:00:05.41
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lexar Professional LSD16GCTBNA400 16GB 400x 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 524288

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x400200.

Run[1] Type[0x02000002] Zone[0] - 9.884798 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:13.60
> Disk  Random 512.0 Write                     10.41 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:00:14.45
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lexar Professional LSD16GCTBNA400 16GB 400x 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 4096
Run[1] Type[0x01000002] Zone[0] - 4.931708 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:01.40
> Disk  Random 4.0 Read                        4.97 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:00:02.23
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lexar Professional LSD16GCTBNA400 16GB 400x 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 524288
Run[1] Type[0x01000002] Zone[0] - 33.165440 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:04.48
> Disk  Random 512.0 Read                      33.19 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:00:05.41
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lexar Professional LSD16GCTBNA400 16GB 400x 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /flush /drive F /iocount 256 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/flush /drive F /iocount 256 -seq'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 16384

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x1dd580200.

Expected number of IOs: 256
Number of IOs in trace file:2526
> Run Time 00:00:11.03
> Running: Storage Assessment '/flush /drive F /iocount 256 -ran'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 16384

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x1dd580200.

Expected number of IOs: 256
Number of IOs in trace file:2517
> Run Time 00:00:13.49
> Average Read Time with Sequential Writes     3.791 ms          6.4
> Latency: 95th Percentile                     42.720 ms          1.9
> Latency: Maximum                             74.358 ms          7.8
> Average Read Time with Random Writes         5.480 ms          5.8
> Total Run Time 00:00:25.35
> The System processor power policy was restored
Script complete.

[Ghetto_Child]

Patriot EP Series PEF32GSHC10233 32GB 333X 32KB-FAT32 CrystalDiskMark
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

           Sequential Read :    34.746 MB/s
          Sequential Write :    31.938 MB/s
         Random Read 512KB :    34.106 MB/s
        Random Write 512KB :     7.442 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) :     4.369 MB/s [  1066.7 IOPS]
   Random Write 4KB (QD=1) :     0.351 MB/s [    85.6 IOPS]
   Random Read 4KB (QD=32) :     4.860 MB/s [  1186.4 IOPS]
  Random Write 4KB (QD=32) :     0.333 MB/s [    81.4 IOPS]

  Test : 500 MB [F: 0.0% (0.0/29.8 GB)] (x2)
  Date : 2012/10/17 13:10:56
    OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
    Patriot EP Series PEF32GSHC10233 32GB 333X UHS-I Class 10 SDHC 32KB-FAT32
============================================================
Patriot EP Series PEF32GSHC10233 32GB 333X 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
WinSAT disk batch test
This batch script will test:
4096Byte Random writes for 256 I/O operations.
524288Byte Random Writes for 256 I/O operations.
4096Byte Random Reads for 256 I/O operations.
524288Byte Random Reads for 256 I/O operations.
Write Policy Flush Mode Read Time Performance for 256 I/O operations 
on 65536Byte Sequential writes and 16384Byte Random writes.

Usage Syntax: ThisBatchFilename.bat DriveLetter 
(Replace "DriveLetter" with desired drive letter, no colon).
Press Ctrl + C to abort.
Drive F entered.



Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 4096

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x400200.

Run[1] Type[0x02000002] Zone[0] - 0.397952 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:05.30
> Disk  Random 4.0 Write                       0.41 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:00:06.22
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patriot EP Series PEF32GSHC10233 32GB 333X 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 524288

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x400200.

Run[1] Type[0x02000002] Zone[0] - 18.921987 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:07.46
> Disk  Random 512.0 Write                     19.61 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:00:08.28
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patriot EP Series PEF32GSHC10233 32GB 333X 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 4096
Run[1] Type[0x01000002] Zone[0] - 4.812977 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:01.50
> Disk  Random 4.0 Read                        4.85 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:00:02.34
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patriot EP Series PEF32GSHC10233 32GB 333X 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 524288
Run[1] Type[0x01000002] Zone[0] - 32.849489 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:04.55
> Disk  Random 512.0 Read                      32.88 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:00:05.44
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patriot EP Series PEF32GSHC10233 32GB 333X 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /flush /drive F /iocount 256 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/flush /drive F /iocount 256 -seq'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 16384

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x3ba980200.

Expected number of IOs: 256
Number of IOs in trace file:2526
> Run Time 00:00:10.75
> Running: Storage Assessment '/flush /drive F /iocount 256 -ran'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 16384

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x3ba980200.

Expected number of IOs: 256
Number of IOs in trace file:2517
> Run Time 00:00:10.94
> Average Read Time with Sequential Writes     5.149 ms          5.9
> Latency: 95th Percentile                     7.967 ms          6.0
> Latency: Maximum                             41.971 ms          7.9
> Average Read Time with Random Writes         4.284 ms          6.2
> Total Run Time 00:00:22.75
> The System processor power policy was restored
Script complete.

[Ghetto_Child]

SanDisk Extreme SDSDX-016G-X46S 16GB 300X 32KB-FAT32 CrystialDiskMark
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

           Sequential Read :    34.811 MB/s
          Sequential Write :    33.941 MB/s
         Random Read 512KB :    34.117 MB/s
        Random Write 512KB :     1.536 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) :     4.784 MB/s [  1168.1 IOPS]
   Random Write 4KB (QD=1) :     1.518 MB/s [   370.5 IOPS]
   Random Read 4KB (QD=32) :     4.339 MB/s [  1059.4 IOPS]
  Random Write 4KB (QD=32) :     0.824 MB/s [   201.3 IOPS]

  Test : 500 MB [F: 0.0% (0.0/14.8 GB)] (x2)
  Date : 2012/10/17 14:33:18
    OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
    SanDisk Extreme SDSDX-016G-X46S 16GB 300X UHS-I Class 10 SDHC 32KB-FAT32
==================================================================
SanDisk Extreme SDSDX-016G-X46S 16GB 300X 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
WinSAT disk batch test
This batch script will test:
4096Byte Random writes for 256 I/O operations.
524288Byte Random Writes for 256 I/O operations.
4096Byte Random Reads for 256 I/O operations.
524288Byte Random Reads for 256 I/O operations.
Write Policy Flush Mode Read Time Performance for 256 I/O operations 
on 65536Byte Sequential writes and 16384Byte Random writes.

Usage Syntax: ThisBatchFilename.bat DriveLetter 
(Replace "DriveLetter" with desired drive letter, no colon).
Press Ctrl + C to abort.
Drive F entered.



Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 4096

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x400200.

Run[1] Type[0x02000002] Zone[0] - 0.325589 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:04.76
> Disk  Random 4.0 Write                       0.39 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:00:06.18
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SanDisk Extreme SDSDX-016G-X46S 16GB 300X 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /write /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 524288

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x400200.

Run[1] Type[0x02000002] Zone[0] - 2.005055 MB/s
> Run Time 00:01:04.54
> Disk  Random 512.0 Write                     3.28 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:01:05.41
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SanDisk Extreme SDSDX-016G-X46S 16GB 300X 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 4096'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 4096
Run[1] Type[0x01000002] Zone[0] - 4.420595 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:01.72
> Disk  Random 4.0 Read                        4.44 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:00:02.53
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SanDisk Extreme SDSDX-016G-X46S 16GB 300X 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/ran /read /drive F /iocount 256 /ransize 524288'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 524288
Run[1] Type[0x01000002] Zone[0] - 32.747012 MB/s
> Run Time 00:00:04.49
> Disk  Random 512.0 Read                      32.78 MB/s
> Total Run Time 00:00:05.32
> The System processor power policy was restored

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SanDisk Extreme SDSDX-016G-X46S 16GB 300X 32KB-FAT32 WinSAT
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Command Line 'winsat  disk /flush /drive F /iocount 256 /v'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '/flush /drive F /iocount 256 -seq'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 16384

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x1daec0200.

Expected number of IOs: 256
Number of IOs in trace file:2526
> Run Time 00:00:14.69
> Running: Storage Assessment '/flush /drive F /iocount 256 -ran'
Mode Flags = 0x%08x
Disk Number = 4
Iterations = 1
IO Count = 256
Sequential IO Size = 65536
Random IO Size = 16384

	Requesting a file of size 67108864 located at physical offset 0x1daec0200.

Expected number of IOs: 256
Number of IOs in trace file:2547
> Run Time 00:02:53.85
> Average Read Time with Sequential Writes     5.515 ms          5.8
> Latency: 95th Percentile                     258.223 ms          1.9
> Latency: Maximum                             485.416 ms          3.6
> Average Read Time with Random Writes         86.309 ms          1.9
> Total Run Time 00:03:09.38
> The System processor power policy was restored
Script complete.

[Ghetto_Child]

...
I don't like Sandisk MicroSD's. They do not perform above specs. If it's class 10, it will read/write at 10MB/s. (Class 2/4/6, writes at listed speeds.)

Adata, from my experience, perform above specs.
Their 8GB class 10, and 16GB class 10 both perform 20/15, read/write.

The class 10 32GB was a bit of a disappointment because the read/write is 20/10. (I'm thinking write is 10MB/s because of the 32GB capacity).

This could just be the result of differences in Class requirements. Class 2-6 specs require manufacturers meet the minimum write speed on fragmented cards and Class 10 does not state any requirements on the card's fragmentation state when meeting minimum write speed. Class 10 it is up to the manufacturer to choose if their card meets this minimum when defragmented or fragmented. I find my Adata has a latency spike at a certain segment of the card. Aside from that their cards are usually reliable and above average advertised speed for general use not heavy on small sized transactions or frequent accesses.

[Ghetto_Child]

how good is the quality of the InWin GreenMe 750W 80Plus PSU?
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...N&promoid=1286
The price is nice but is it reliable for 50ºC gaming? I want to put it on an 8800gt. Also is their MIR reliable or do they just ignore you like Xigmatek does?

So no one has an answer?

[Passel]

So no one has an answer?

I don't like the InWin 750 as its only a 54A to the 12V, so the original price is very high for no reason.

But to power a 8800gt it will be more than enough.

I would suggest something like this http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66855&...e&promoid=1030 which will be more than enough power for an 8800gt

Or if you know you will be upgrading later, then something like this http://ncix.com/products/?sku=50153&...R&promoid=1030

http://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/...graphics-cards

[ludhi]

this is lame, i ordered an item with free exprss shipping.. and still got charged $5 for it lol.

[eBuddy]

Is the NCIX Vesta Black Friday Edition a good value at $1,200? Is 11:59 PM ET the deadline to buy this?

[thevoid]

Is the NCIX Vesta Black Friday Edition a good value at $1,200? Is 11:59 PM ET the deadline to buy this?

Seems pretty over priced in my opinion. Pc's are really easy to build I would advise looking into that.

[Veerg]

Is the NCIX Vesta Black Friday Edition a good value at $1,200? Is 11:59 PM ET the deadline to buy this?

It's not bad value if your planning on spending $1200 on a desktop built Computer within the next month anyway. Has some freebies. But is not break the doors down must buy.

[Fantaz]

this is lame, i ordered an item with free exprss shipping.. and still got charged $5 for it lol.

did you edit your order?

[kay188]

Generally Sandisk makes higher quality memory cards than Adata. Sandisk Ultra cards are pretty fast and probably a lot faster at random transfers and small block sequential transfers. I personally havn't seen any non-UHS-I speed Adata brand that was faster than 155X, not even their Class 10. I have a Sandisk Extreme SDHC that is 300X Class 10 UHS-I rated for up to 45MB/s.

UHS-I speeds have a limit of 54MB/s; you need a card reader or device capable of using UHS speeds to get that high. If you put a UHS-I card into a non-UHS reader you will be using the Class# speeds. In the case of The Sandisk Ultra it will be the Class 10. However the Sandisk Ultra card should still out perform the Adata a lot in small block transfers and random transfers. Major diff between the Adata and the Sandisk Ultra is likely the Adata has a much higher latency. Adata is good for storage but not for frequent or small sized transactions.

I wanted to attach results of 3 SDHC Class 10 UHS-I cards in a UHS card reader running on USB 2.0 ports (I think one needs USB 3.0 ports to get UHS speeds). However the forum is telling me my text file saved from crystal disk mark exceeds forum limits by 46MB?!?!?! The file is not even 1KB to begin with.

You could have just screen shot the crystal disk mark test and posted the picture.

Sandisk's higher quality cards are only higher quality if you drop $$$ on the top of the line ones. Their lower regular SD cards are garbage IMO, and that's where for the same price, you can get a bigger Adata card which has better performance than Sandisk's regular cards.

This could just be the result of differences in Class requirements. Class 2-6 specs require manufacturers meet the minimum write speed on fragmented cards and Class 10 does not state any requirements on the card's fragmentation state when meeting minimum write speed. Class 10 it is up to the manufacturer to choose if their card meets this minimum when defragmented or fragmented. I find my Adata has a latency spike at a certain segment of the card. Aside from that their cards are usually reliable and above average advertised speed for general use not heavy on small sized transactions or frequent accesses.

I didn't know that class 2-6 require to meet the minimum on fragmented cards, where as Class 10 does not.
In any case, the Adata 32GB microSD Class 10 maximum write is 10MB/s on a fresh card.
What I'm thinking is... maybe then the Adata 32GB microSD Class 4 cards would exceed 10MB/s and write at 12MB/s like their other class 4/6 cards? Only one way to find out.

I use them in my dashcams, and cameras that record 1080p video. They're fast enough for 1080p 50MBPS bitrate. Surprisingly a regular Sandisk 8GB class 2 was able to sustain the write speed.

[ludhi]

did you edit your order?

i dont thnk so

[nksharp]

Contact them then. If it had free shipping it should have automatically been on that during checkout (I had a few) and then you just proced unless you want to switch to some other option for whatever reason.

My free ground shipping order came today that I ordered Friday (technically 10am yesterday but I was out). Wish ME was this fast with my order