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Anyone bought from them before? Were you charged taxes/duties?
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No I haven’t even heard of them but Anything that is imported is subject to duties and taxes
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Red_Army wrote: No I haven’t even heard of them but Anything that is imported is subject to duties and taxes
They are an ebay store

Personally I've only ever been charged duties 1 time on an item I've imported in over 10 years buying online(Ebay now charges the fees during checkout, but some retailers aren't subjected to them, which is why I'm asking if there are any surprises)
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Viper98 wrote: They are an ebay store

Personally I've only ever been charged duties 1 time on an item I've imported in over 10 years buying online(Ebay now charges the fees during checkout, but some retailers aren't subjected to them, which is why I'm asking if there are any surprises)
If they use the global shipping scam then you will be charged for sure . Otherwise If they use a shipping agent other than USPS then you have a good chance getting charged duties and taxes and brokerage
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Viper98 wrote: Anyone bought from them before? Were you charged taxes/duties?
I bought a phone from Never MSRP's eBay store.
I found the seller was quite helpful and responded quickly.
Very happy with the phone.
Yes I was charged taxes and duties. This was through Fedex.
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Jucius Maximus wrote: I bought a phone from Never MSRP's eBay store.
I found the seller was quite helpful and responded quickly.
Very happy with the phone.
Yes I was charged taxes and duties. This was through Fedex.
How much were you charged for duties and taxes do you remember? How much was your phone including shipping and how much extra did you have to pay?

Much appreciated as I am trying to weight out my options!
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dicksonli wrote: How much were you charged for duties and taxes do you remember? How much was your phone including shipping and how much extra did you have to pay?

Much appreciated as I am trying to weight out my options!
The phone was US $299 and shipping US $12.99.

I paid Fedex a total of CAD $57 for all of the border stuff.
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Red_Army wrote: If they use the global shipping scam then you will be charged for sure .
What scam? Global Shipping out the door (including taxes) is less than the fees alone from couriers.

I barely buy anything that isn't GSP any more unless it's from China.
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death_hawk wrote:
What scam? Global Shipping out the door (including taxes) is less than the fees alone from couriers.

I barely buy anything that isn't GSP any more unless it's from China.
I'm going to speculate and suggest that GSP is more expensive than when USPS shipments 'slide through' the customs lottery without getting taxed.
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Jucius Maximus wrote: I'm going to speculate and suggest that GSP is more expensive than when USPS shipments 'slide through' the customs lottery without getting taxed.
Could be, but in my experience USPS shipping is actually more expensive than GSP's shipping fee with taxes. So even if the package doesn't get taxed, it's already more expensive on the front end.

Obviously it's dependent on the item. This usually applies to stuff that's at least somewhat sizable.
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death_hawk wrote: Could be, but in my experience USPS shipping is actually more expensive than GSP's shipping fee with taxes. So even if the package doesn't get taxed, it's already more expensive on the front end.

Obviously it's dependent on the item. This usually applies to stuff that's at least somewhat sizable.
Never have I experienced this. In my experience the GsP charge is just additional to the usps shipping charge
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Red_Army wrote: Never have I experienced this. In my experience the GsP charge is just additional to the usps shipping charge
It definitely is, but USPS US->Canada is usually significantly more than US->US+GSP especially when the package is larger.
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death_hawk wrote: It definitely is, but USPS US->Canada is usually significantly more than US->US+GSP especially when the package is larger.
Why would you be paying for global shipping if it’s domestic?
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Red_Army wrote: Why would you be paying for global shipping if it’s domestic?
Because GSP ships it to a domestic (US) access point, drives it over the border and relabels it for domestic (in Canada) shipping.
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death_hawk wrote: Because GSP ships it to a domestic (US) access point, drives it over the border and relabels it for domestic (in Canada) shipping.
I’ve yet to come across an auction where global shipping wasn’t just an added on cost to what the actual shipping charges are for the package.
These are typically 2 separate charges in my experience. Is what you’re referring to that the “shipping” charge is just for the package to go to the GSP location? I have yet to encounter this. From my understanding is the shipping charge is for the entire process of the package travelling and the GSP charge is just prepaying the customs/duty brokerage
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Red_Army wrote: These are typically 2 separate charges in my experience. Is what you’re referring to that the “shipping” charge is just for the package to go to the GSP location? I have yet to encounter this. From my understanding is the shipping charge is for the entire process of the package travelling and the GSP charge is just prepaying the customs/duty brokerage
It's packed into one (technically 2) charges like you said.

US->US shipping is one charge.
GSP+taxes etc is the other one.

Either way, both those together is generally cheaper than USPS US->Canada.
That's not to say it's always cheaper. Extremely small items tend to be cheaper shipped direct without GSP.
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death_hawk wrote: It's packed into one (technically 2) charges like you said.

US->US shipping is one charge.
GSP+taxes etc is the other one.

Either way, both those together is generally cheaper than USPS US->Canada.
That's not to say it's always cheaper. Extremely small items tend to be cheaper shipped direct without GSP.
Not sure what you’re buying but like I said in all of my experiences the shipping charge is the same whether or not the GSP is added on
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Red_Army wrote: Not sure what you’re buying but like I said in all of my experiences the shipping charge is the same whether or not the GSP is added on
I'm not even sure how that's possible because on one side you're paying US->Canada while the other side is US->US.

It also doesn't help that USPS is one of the more expensive options to get out of the US.

Here's an example:

GSP:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/282696739600
$13.91 ship + $13.12 taxes

Direct:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202617026455
$27.30

https://www.ebay.com/itm/312209117263
$39.95

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123241440127
$60!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233096474211
$21.17 (FINALLY found one that's cheaper total, but you're probably gonna pay taxes when you get it)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/183683783078
$25.43 (Also cheaper, but again taxes)

There's a few options for UPS/Fedex which are about the same price as GSP, but you're gonna pay at least $15 (or more with UPS) for brokerage.
GSP is essentially free brokerage.

The only viable option is the $21.17, and they don't even specify shipping method. You'd better pray that it's USPS.
Even if it is, based on the dollar value, Canada Post is going to collect taxes at the door which means you're totally screwed.
You're basically betting $6 saying they will collect if you ship via GSP.

If you're playing the odds, you basically have to not pay for 3/4 packages you receive in order to break even.
In my experience, packages from the US have a MUCH higher "loss" rate than this, especially ones with value.

I'm totally happy paying the $6 gambling fee.
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death_hawk wrote: I'm not even sure how that's possible because on one side you're paying US->Canada while the other side is US->US.

It also doesn't help that USPS is one of the more expensive options to get out of the US.

Here's an example:

GSP:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/282696739600
$13.91 ship + $13.12 taxes

Direct:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202617026455
$27.30

https://www.ebay.com/itm/312209117263
$39.95

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123241440127
$60!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233096474211
$21.17 (FINALLY found one that's cheaper total, but you're probably gonna pay taxes when you get it)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/183683783078
$25.43 (Also cheaper, but again taxes)

There's a few options for UPS/Fedex which are about the same price as GSP, but you're gonna pay at least $15 (or more with UPS) for brokerage.
GSP is essentially free brokerage.

The only viable option is the $21.17, and they don't even specify shipping method. You'd better pray that it's USPS.
Even if it is, based on the dollar value, Canada Post is going to collect taxes at the door which means you're totally screwed.
You're basically betting $6 saying they will collect if you ship via GSP.

If you're playing the odds, you basically have to not pay for 3/4 packages you receive in order to break even.
In my experience, packages from the US have a MUCH higher "loss" rate than this, especially ones with value.

I'm totally happy paying the $6 gambling fee.
Then you have items such as a t shirt. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nike-Sportswea ... 3441117783 11$ shipping plus 9$ import GsP

As opposed to $10 usps direct
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nike-Tee-Athle ... SwGMFch1x2
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Red_Army wrote:
Then you have items such as a t shirt.
*ahem*
death_hawk wrote:

Obviously it's dependent on the item.
I see blanket statements that GSP is terrible when it's not.
For the items I buy generally speaking, GSP is the better option.

In your case, a shirt isn't because it's both a smaller non fragile item and low value.
Low value items generally are better direct because there's less of a chance there's going to be tax.
Once you cross about $100, you're almost guaranteed to pay.

Non fragile too because you can cram in into an envelope and be fine. That's probably a bad idea when it comes to something like a hard drive or a phone.
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