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New Rules for cars on King Street, downtown Toronto - Thoughts?

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  • Nov 17th, 2017 3:56 pm
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Streetcars should have priority in the downtown core





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How about just use buses on King Street instead of the street car. This new rule seems kinda dumb.
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carmaster wrote:
Nov 12th, 2017 6:43 pm
How about just use buses on King Street instead of the street car. This new rule seems kinda dumb.
that's what I'm saying.. it's bullshit that these streetcars take up both lanes every single time they stop.. at least drivers can go around a bus.
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there will be a traffic jam trying to turn right and block the streetcars anyways..

well let see what other new ideas they will come up with next....
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tk1000 wrote:
Nov 12th, 2017 5:14 pm
Streetcars should have priority in the downtown core ...
Agreed. While I have no problem with this experiment, I think there are other changes that could easily be made. For example, no left turns anywhere there are streetcar tracks. Or, all streetcar tracks are a dedicated lane for streetcars during certain hours.
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King Street pilot project raises concerns about ripple effect on traffic

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That kind of explains all the road markings on king last night.... Disappointed But Relieved Face

Why not make King Street and Queen Street one way streets. Alternate them with Richmond and Adelaide. This way you can make left turns, right turns and go straight and the streetcars can stay in the secondmost right lane.
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This is why I've just given up trying to drive anywhere downtown.

All these half hearted efforts. Just do what everyone is thinking already get rid of the bike lanes and do dedicated transit lanes. As mentioned prioritizing the street car is going to cause a ripple effect in traffic. They need to do something more drastic such as running buses and street cars on dedicated lanes during rush hour. Cancel left turns.
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tebore wrote:
Nov 13th, 2017 8:38 am
This is why I've just given up trying to drive anywhere downtown.

All these half hearted efforts. Just do what everyone is thinking already get rid of the bike lanes and do dedicated transit lanes. As mentioned prioritizing the street car is going to cause a ripple effect in traffic. They need to do something more drastic such as running buses and street cars on dedicated lanes during rush hour. Cancel left turns.
Are there bike lanes on King?
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wirebound wrote:
Nov 13th, 2017 8:55 am
Are there bike lanes on King?
Not on King. But on the neighboring streets where the traffic will flow over in to yes. One reason why traffic has gotten so terrible in that area is because of those bike lanes. Most of those streets down there used to be 2 lanes in each direction and no parking/no stopping at rush hour. Then they became 1 in each with bike lanes.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying prioritizing cars is the answer, I'm saying they need to focus on moving the most amount of people possible and that's going to happen via transit not bikes.
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I wonder if public transit usage will go up?
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Mugen123 wrote:
Nov 12th, 2017 6:49 pm
that's what I'm saying.. it's bullshit that these streetcars take up both lanes every single time they stop.. at least drivers can go around a bus.
If you are talking about having to stop behind a tram while passengers embark/disembark, this is standard procedure everywhere there are trams and trams don't have a refuge station for the passengers to wait and have to wait on the sidewalk. Drive in Europe where cities uses trams and you will quickly realise this.
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It's stupidity. But here we are.
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at1212b wrote:
Nov 13th, 2017 9:45 am
I wonder if public transit usage will go up?
TTC says ridership could increase on this route...

"A lot of resources [are] being thrown at this to manage the route as it should be managed," said Brad Ross, chief spokesman for the TTC. "In this configuration we think we're going to see … that the [time between streetcars] will become more regular and therefore more reliable. And you'll probably see an increase in ridership as a result, because the service will be running properly."

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