New Street Racing Bill

[shabby]

http://www.frank-klees.on.ca/Current...reetRacing.htm

172.1 (1) If a police officer has reason to believe that a person is driving, or has driven, a motor vehicle on a highway in a race, the officer may,

(a) request that the person surrender his or her driver’s licence;

(b) order the motor vehicle that was being driven by the person to be impounded; or

(c) both request the surrender of the driver’s licence as provided in clause (a) and order the motor vehicle to be impounded as provided in clause (b).

Best part...

No appeal or review
(9) There is no appeal or review from a licence suspension or impound order under this section.

[TheOneDealer]

i think its stupid, people are going to street race no matter what law there is. if people really wanted to do something, no bill will stop them, i just think all of these restrictions and such just make people want to take a bigger risk. if u want to end street racing, why make cars that go faster than 120? i mean companies make cars that go 180+ with crazy hp numbers, thats the problem with laws, they put the blame on the easiest victims, why not look at the companies that make these overpowered sports cars.

[KorruptioN]

No appeal at all? The whole law is subjective in the officer's eyes, and if he feels like doing a little damage to somebody who may in fact be innocent, he'll have all the power to.

[masterballer]

stupied law ... what idiots, who votes for these idiot?

[gordholio]

Great law. The streets are not for racing.
If people want to race, get sponsors and a race car and become a driver at an official race track.
The streets are made for a purpose - going to and fro - not for someone's joyrides.

Also, they way they make cars go so fast, it invites this street racing.
There's no need for cars to go over a certain speed.

[m77m7]

i think its stupid, people are going to street race no matter what law there is. if people really wanted to do something, no bill will stop them, i just think all of these restrictions and such just make people want to take a bigger risk. if u want to end street racing, why make cars that go faster than 120? i mean companies make cars that go 180+ with crazy hp numbers, thats the problem with laws, they put the blame on the easiest victims, why not look at the companies that make these overpowered sports cars.

So races that take place in smaller lengths where they don't go higher than 120 is ok? A race can be very brief and doesn't necessarily mean speeds reach higher than 120. Making a cause for preventing guns from being sold to people other than law enforcement is much more worthwhile.

[PCDawg]

Great law. The streets are not for racing.
If people want to race, get sponsors and a race car and become a driver at an official race track.
The streets are made for a purpose - going to and fro - not for someone's joyrides.

Also, they way they make cars go so fast, it invites this street racing.
There's no need for cars to go over a certain speed.

But its not fair in terms of not having an appeal. Sure i have a car that i have modifed both in terms of aesthetics and engine-wise to get more hp and torque. But do i street race? No. I have a 2 1/2 year old son which i transport in my car and i dont want to do something stupid where it will risk my life and I wont be able to enjoy watching my son grow up.

I've had cops ons streets follow me and i can see that they were running my paltes in their computers to see if I have any traffic convictions and when they drive up beside me they see a kid in the back.

If One day i dont have my kid in there and they say that I was street racing and pull my liscense, its over for me?? Becuase i mod my car for the fun of it and not to punk around the streets and look for competition?

If i want that i take it to the track or drag strip...

Yes true...cars they making nowadays are too fast. Look at the new BMW 3-series coupe...crazy 300hp or the new Mazdaspeed 3 .... turbo'ed 240hp engine. Or the soon to be released Nissan Skyline GTR, a pure sports car. If they want to do soemthing go after the car manufacteres and reduce the hp output. Every year it increases and they all try to best each other but making bigger faster engines.

[evolution921]

172.1 (1) If a police officer has reason to believe that a person is driving, or has driven, a motor vehicle on a highway in a race, the officer may,

So I guess they can impound any car they want, since any car could have been "driven" in a race. They can just randomly pull over someone in a BMW M3 or Corvette and claim that they have reasons to believe that they have driven the vehicle in a race and impound their car because they don't like certain people driving certain cars.

[masterballer]

Great law. The streets are not for racing.
If people want to race, get sponsors and a race car and become a driver at an official race track.
The streets are made for a purpose - going to and fro - not for someone's joyrides.

Also, they way they make cars go so fast, it invites this street racing.
There's no need for cars to go over a certain speed.

if u dont mind me askin, how old are you? you sound like ur atleast 40+ .... your not gonna get pulled over, but me being 18 and driving a car that is a target for cops dont like this, i can get pulled over and impounded for no reason if a cop wants to be a dik so yea, its not a fair law at all.

[Sonbuster]

if you want to street race, get a low profile car, such as a dodge shadow, geo metro, buick park avenue, oldsmobile 88, pontiac 6000 etc. pop in a super/turbocharger and NOS system. and you're set. you'll never get pulled over. cops are out looking for civics and other street imports.

[Hula]

Sorry guys but many folks like me, like this law a lot!!! I too used to have a riced up vehicle 10 years ago and anyone who drives a modded up car who says they don't race, simply don't get it. When you drive a car with flashy paint, a CAI, cat-back exhaust and a wing the size of fricking Texas, there is a greater likelihood you're going to push the rules of the road more so than the average Joe. If you say you're not, you're kidding yourself. I have ricer friends and they all do this. They despise being targeted by police, but they wear a giant F'ing bulls-eye right on their car!!! It reads as potential "intent" right on your bumper each time ya hit the street.

If you want to play the game, be prepared to have the rules changed on you.

Let's be honest, there have simply been too many damn street racing incidents of late and many people are losing their lives, or the ability to live life to the fullest extent as a result. I also find it ironic that most of the punks going up and down the road at unsafe speeds risking the lives of others folks are the ones that survive when an accident occurs.

Yeah....perhaps the new law isn't the most effective new law to hit the books in the past 20 years, but the intent is to stop street racing and that's not likely going to happen if they make it too easy for folks being caught to get off on a technicality, or to give them an appeals process to follow.

If you street race and you hurt or kill someone else on a public street, rot in jail for all I care. I'm confident I'm not in the minority for saying this, just a little more outspoken than some others.

Street racing is as bad as "drinking and driving". It's out and out stupidity that risks the lives of those others who can't control what you or any other moron goes out and does on the road. If you disagree, you'll likely be the one caught for racing and you'll probably find very little support from the public when you try to plead your case.

[ElvaSoShexai]

i agree street racing is bad. but this bill just has way too many flaws... to me it just seems like they gave up on preventing gun violence and need something to make up for their failure

i think they've tried this in several other cities down south and it actually worked in lowering street racing:

build (or just have some empty space) a track IN TORONTO (autox/drag whatever) where people can go for the weekends to race OFF the street at an affordable price

[MrDisco]

Great law. The streets are not for racing.
If people want to race, get sponsors and a race car and become a driver at an official race track.
The streets are made for a purpose - going to and fro - not for someone's joyrides.

Also, they way they make cars go so fast, it invites this street racing.
There's no need for cars to go over a certain speed.

agree 100%. heck i dont think it goes far enough - i'ld force manufacturers to limit cars from exceeding 130 km/h and placing a limit on horsepower. then i'ld crack down hard on engine mods.

[VivienM]

if u dont mind me askin, how old are you? you sound like ur atleast 40+ .... your not gonna get pulled over, but me being 18 and driving a car that is a target for cops dont like this, i can get pulled over and impounded for no reason if a cop wants to be a dik so yea, its not a fair law at all.

Why are you driving a car "that is a target for cops"?

What makes this car "a target for cops"?

If the answer to both questions is the same... then perhaps the author of this bill has a point.

[Shaner]

i agree street racing is bad. but this bill just has way too many flaws... to me it just seems like they gave up on preventing gun violence and need something to make up for their failure

i think they've tried this in several other cities down south and it actually worked in lowering street racing:

build (or just have some empty space) a track IN TORONTO (autox/drag whatever) where people can go for the weekends to race OFF the street at an affordable price

There already is a track in Toronto.