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On the news, red light camera ticket dispute

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On the news, red light camera ticket dispute

I just saw this and thought it's strange how the clerk told him it's because he was too close to the sidewalk?
I thought it's just because he didn't stop at the line and tripped the camera.
If it was legal, wouldn't the review by a personnel filter this out already?

http://www.680news.com/video/2017/08/09 ... egal-turn/
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Toronto man says he received $325 ticket after making legal turn
Sean Batson says he received a $325 ticket for making a right turn at Eglinton and Danforth – something that is perfectly legal to do at that intersection.

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Drivers claim red light camera is ticketing incorrectly
Several CityNews viewers claim a red light camera in Scarborough is malfunctioning and drivers are paying the price for it. CityNews reporter Pam Seatle has the details.

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I wonder if he turned right without stopping.
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Drivers claim red light camera is ticketing incorrectly
Several CityNews viewers claim a red light camera in Scarborough is malfunctioning and drivers are paying the price for it. CityNews reporter Pam Seatle has the details.

is it me or is she pronouncing kilometers awkwardly? and mayor john tory is a moron, "we cant have officers sitting at the corner watching people turn illegally?" bruh everyone knows and its been proven that the inventors of the red light camera's were intended and invented for $$$ purposes no dispute about it, and they are easily modifiable to timing constraints i.e. after how many seconds you turn on a red light or go through it ...
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Take a close look at the up close photos on the paper he's holding; it says he was going 040km/h. Clearly he didn't stop and make a legal right turn, but instead rolled right through which WILL trigger the red light camera.
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Chrno wrote:
Aug 11th, 2017 9:07 am
Take a close look at the up close photos on the paper he's holding; it says he was going 040km/h. Clearly he didn't stop and make a legal right turn, but instead rolled right through which WILL trigger the red light camera.
Nice catch.

In all honesty, that camera is going to be far more reliable than many of the drivers in the GTA. Lousy drivers are commonplace in Ontario. The people disputing these tickets simply failed to stop before making their turns. Still, with the media attention this has received I wonder if some of these drivers will be able to get their tickets tossed despite failing to stop?
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Aug 11th, 2017 9:50 am
Still, with the media attention this has received I wonder if some of these drivers will be able to get their tickets tossed despite failing to stop?
Unlikely. Even if they take it to court, the onus is on the defendant to prove that there is a malfunction with the equipment that caused it to read the speed incorrectly. Good luck with that.
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I don't understand all the hate for red light cameras and the "cash grab" insults thrown at them. Putting aside this issue of a small number of possible malfunctions when turning right, we're talking about people running reds. there's a picture of them before the stopline and the light is red. Plus a picture of them past the stop line with the light still red. No dispute they ran a red.
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Oh, I didn't see it says 40km/h. That's why it's triggering the camera. Don't think he'll win the case then.
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Aug 11th, 2017 10:25 am
I don't understand all the hate for red light cameras and the "cash grab" insults thrown at them. Putting aside this issue of a small number of possible malfunctions when turning right, we're talking about people running reds. there's a picture of them before the stopline and the light is red. Plus a picture of them past the stop line with the light still red. No dispute they ran a red.
The hate for cameras is simple; you're more likely to be caught for a traffic infraction if there are cameras than if there are none. Nobody likes to get caught when they break the law. Cameras make it far more difficult to actually get away with poor driving which makes them the bane of motorists and the friend of revenue collectors.
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Take a close look at the up close photos on the paper he's holding; it says he was going 040km/h. Clearly he didn't stop and make a legal right turn, but instead rolled right through which WILL trigger the red light camera.
This! There's no way he came to a full stop if he was clocked at 40 kph in the photo. Glad he got caught. Too many people do this.
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Aug 11th, 2017 10:37 am
The hate for cameras is simple; you're more likely to be caught for a traffic infraction if there are cameras than if there are none. Nobody likes to get caught when they break the law. Cameras make it far more difficult to actually get away with poor driving which makes them the bane of motorists and the friend of revenue collectors.
Around here we have red light cams that also flash if you go through a green light too fast. Everyone knows where they are so people will just slow down to go through the intersection and then speed right back up a few seconds after. If anything these cams make it more likely for rear end collisions to happen because people get nervous around them.
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Chrno wrote:
Aug 11th, 2017 9:07 am
Take a close look at the up close photos on the paper he's holding; it says he was going 040km/h. Clearly he didn't stop and make a legal right turn, but instead rolled right through which WILL trigger the red light camera.
Cool. So the red light camera will not take photos of cars who stopped before the intersection for a few seconds and then proceed when it is deemed safe?
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Can he get a conviction now that he revealed himself as the driver? :)

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