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number8888 wrote:
Sep 24th, 2019 12:20 pm
I linked this because it is the most thorough explanation of the inner workings of the Switch and how it manages charging when plugged in.

If there's a proper source that can refute this I would love to see it. I was skeptical too but I could never find anything that conclusively explain what happened. All I found was a few posts suggesting it's the fault of Nintendo's and everybody just believed it, including me at the time. I guess it's the "better safe than sorry" combined with "Nintendo can't do anything right" mentality perpetuating at the time.

However, thinking about it logically, if plugging in anything that is not from Nintendo would brick the console, then you'd think there would be a lot more bricked consoles by now. This also doesn't explain why other docks like the Insignia work fine.

It's silly how so many people would love to jump on Nintendo on this, and instead of Nyko who is known for making cheap peripherals to begin with.
Weird bricking happened right after firmware 5.0 update.

No bricking reports from firmware 1.0 to 4.0. If 3rd party docks is at fault why no bricking prior to the 5.0 update? Nintendo changed something which caused the brick.

The Reddit post is from a Kickstarter who is trying to sell you his own version of dock. Take it with a grain of salt.

*Conspiracy mode on* - How many exploitable Switches died from FW 5.0???
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Just bought a genuine switch power adapter on FB Marketplace for $20 since I wanted one for traveling. I was using just cheap USB C cables but prefer to have a genuine one.

Now I'm thinking of getting this dock for our second TV.

I bought a Surge Travel dock a while back (didn't pay much) but never ended up using it because of the information I found online about possible issues with the switch and 3rd party docks. I know it's not confirmed but it's 300$+ console and want to keep it for a long time :)

thanks op :)
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WL1980 wrote:
Sep 24th, 2019 12:38 pm
Weird bricking happened right after firmware 5.0 update.

No bricking reports from firmware 1.0 to 4.0. If 3rd party docks is at fault why no bricking prior to the 5.0 update? Nintendo changed something which caused the brick.

The Reddit post is from a Kickstarter who is trying to sell you his own version of dock. Take it with a grain of salt.

*Conspiracy mode on* - How many exploitable Switches died from FW 5.0???
When Firmware 5.0 came out only SOME docks like the Nyko cased bricking. The Insignia which was already released at the time had no issues. So while the update probably tighten up the charging functionalities, it was not explicit made to disallow using 3rd party docks.

And yes the post was from the someone that is making their own dock, so is good to bring about a bit of skepticism when reading. However I can't find fault with the following which I think summarize the issue quite well:
Starting backwards, we know a majority of bricking incidences result in a malfunctioning Power Delivery (PD) chip; there are now numerous electronic repair shops and online stores that actually stock the M92T36M PD chip for bricking repairs.


Now this may sound a bit confusing because many are stating the Switch is not PD compliant, but in reality it is using a proper PD Chip and controller. You can find many YouTube repair videos of the switch with replacing the M92T36 and its the sole USB-C PD controller present within the Switch; it controls all of the PD negotiations and ALT Mode (upscaling for HDMI output) functions of the Switch. Though the exact data-sheet of the M92T36 isn’t available publicly I was able to find the closest variant of it, the M92T30 made by ROHM and seem to only differ only by operating voltage. In the details I discovered the absolute max voltage rating for the Configuration Channel (CC) pin to be 6 volts. This means voltage traveling through the CC at more than 6 volts can and will fry the M92T36 chip.


Bricking Happens when the M92T36M PD Chip gets more than 6V


Surprisingly, bricking seems to comes down to corner cutting more than proprietary algorithms. The prevailing theory that the Switch isn’t PD compliant has very little to do with docking actually, and the power consumption of a docked Switch and a non-docked Switch is generally pretty consistent, maxing out at 18W. The inconsistencies of power draw and PD protocol errors are easily managed by the PD chip.


A much more common reason for bricking, are those third party docks that are cutting corners and not actually implementing dedicated PD controllers. For example, the Nyko dock itself uses a microcontroller that emulates the PD protocol and signal input/output voltages. Nyko’s PD emulator sends 9V to the Switch through the CC pin to the M92T36M, putting it 3V higher than the 6V max rating on the M92T36 which leads to a bricking Russian Roulette.
I think the above would be pretty easily refuted if it's not accurate, and I would love to read about it if that's the case. The more information we get the better as that will allow everyone to make the best decision. Since at the end of the day none of us would like our Switch to be rendered useless.
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